noteven Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 A video featuring reports of the heat wave of '21 in the northern hemisphere Link to yoo tube video "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFerguson Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 Was a relatively cool summer in the southern Appys. And i just read an article on Antarctica having the coldest winter ever and missing the coldest day ever by only 1 degree. When i see both sides on this i recall the phrase 'lies, damned lies, and statistics'. Climate Changes- thats what it has done for billions of years. When someone can explain how raising my taxes so the goobermint can spend more freely, THEN call me back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat & Pete Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 Hmm , Video title : " "Sizzling October" 1921" Goes around , comes around . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemsteadc Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 Which has nothing to do with RVing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat & Pete Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 hour ago, hemsteadc said: Which has nothing to do with RVing. It might , if you have a time machine motor home . Goes around , comes around . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandsys Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 2 hours ago, hemsteadc said: Which has nothing to do with RVing. Which is why it is in the "other" section. But, I do think RVers have more awareness of and need to know about weather than anyone other than farmers. Linda Blog: http://sandcastle.sandsys.org/ Former Rigs: Liesure Travel van, Winnebago View 24H, Winnebago Journey 34Y, Sportsmobile Sprinter conversion van Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat & Pete Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 10 minutes ago, sandsys said: Which is why it is in the "other" section. But, I do think RVers have more awareness of and need to know about weather than anyone other than farmers. Linda They better , every day , or they take the risks involved . Goes around , comes around . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted October 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 The video contains some interesting observations from 100 years ago. Here is a 3 minute one with some historical information around California droughts. California droughts in history "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemsteadc Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 50 minutes ago, sandsys said: Which is why it is in the "other" section. Now it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray,IN Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 For how many years have humans been trying to convert SW desert into commercial farms and or communities and diverting more and more water from the North? Now they are complaining about lack of water in a historical desert??? Nothing humans have invented or devised has improved on natures grand design; some things have been speeded up but not improved. 2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD, ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA ." And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy 20 Jan 1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbaraok Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 9 hours ago, CFerguson said: Was a relatively cool summer in the southern Appys. And i just read an article on Antarctica having the coldest winter ever and missing the coldest day ever by only 1 degree. When i see both sides on this i recall the phrase 'lies, damned lies, and statistics'. Climate Changes- thats what it has done for billions of years. When someone can explain how raising my taxes so the goobermint can spend more freely, THEN call me back. Try being north of Seattle 2hen the heat dome descended. 106 in Seattle, only 1/3 of ppl with air conditioning and humidity was around 70% because of all the water being pulled up into the air at that temperature! It was not fun! Obviously you don’t understand the thermodynamics of what is happening. Warmer oceans leads to more extreme weather OF ALL TYPES. MORE HEAT IN SOME ARES, MORE COLD IN OTHERS, BIGGER storms because of more energy In the atmosphere. Barb & Dave O'Keeffe 2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID Blog: http://www.barbanddave.net SPK# 90761 FMCA #F337834 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbaraok Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 6 hours ago, hemsteadc said: Which has nothing to do with RVing. Do people in RVs need to worry a tornadoes? Of course. Severe storms? Of course. We are seeing more tornadoes occurring, in uncommon areas as the energy in the atmosphere increases. Simple atmospheric physics at work and RVers need to be cognizant of that fact. Barb & Dave O'Keeffe 2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID Blog: http://www.barbanddave.net SPK# 90761 FMCA #F337834 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFerguson Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) hahahaha, Barb. Report back when you no longer get your science from the evening news. and try looking at the history of climate change. (hint: its been changing since before humans existed). weather is what you have locally (eg seattle to make this relate to you); climate is what happens on a much larger scale. important not to confuse them. Edited October 7, 2021 by CFerguson edited fer spaillin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted October 7, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 I’m ok with considering information from the historical record. Tony Heller also has a video comparing what was published in Scientific American magazine 100 years ago compared to now. It should concern scientists. "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXiceman Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 57 minutes ago, CFerguson said: hahahaha, Barb. Report back when you no longer get your science from the evening news. and try looking at the history of climate change. (hint: its been changing since before humans existed). weather is what you have locally (eg seattle to make this relate to you); climate is what happens on a much larger scale. important not to confuse them. Yes, the Earth undergoes periodic climatic changes, but people are denying the simple fact that man is accelerating the change. People choose to ignore science at the outpouring of some politicians and environmental people. Oh, I am a retired engineer and worked with science that effected the atmosphere. Some of the evening news is pure manure and some is not. You have to educated enough to sort out the two. Ken Amateur radio operator, 2023 Cougar 22MLS, 2022 F150 Lariat 4x4 Off Road, Sport trim <br />Travel with 1 miniature schnauzer, 1 standard schnauzer and one African Gray parrot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 1 hour ago, CFerguson said: Report back when you no longer get your science from the evening news. You do realize that Barb is a retired college chemistry professor? Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orca Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 I know that "global warming" and "climate change" is real because where i live right now was covered in ice one kilometer deep and it began melting about 25,000 years ago! Was it caused by human activity? Absolutly not! Is the "climate change" today caused by human activity? Absolutly not! One volcanic eruption can put out more greenhouse gas than all mankind has. Is taxing people for their "carbon footprint" going to control the weather? Absolutly not, but it is a great way to add money to the coffers of world governments. As the naysayers get shouted down and the true believers rise to the top, Mother Nature will do what she has been doing since time began! 2004 Freightliner m2 106 2015 DRV lx450 Fullhouse 2019 Indian Springfield 2014 Yamaha 950 V-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barbaraok Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 Orca. No one ever said man caused it all. Earth climate goes in cycles that are effected by slowing of the rotation of the earth, sun spots, movement of the moon, volcanic activity, decay of uranium in the core, movement of iron in the mantel affecting location off the poles, and on and on. And even with man interfering, the planet will be fine. But all of the current species on the planet may not survive because human activity has accelerated changes. US NAVY takes warming seriously because it affects total levels, affects locations of ports, etc. Insurance companies take it seriously because increased warming means more moisture in the air, means more severe storms everywhere causing property damage and deaths. And the list goes on and on. that you refuse to see what is happening is sad. Not unexpected, but still sad. Barb & Dave O'Keeffe 2002 Alpine 36 MDDS (Figment II), 2018 Ford C-Max HYBRID Blog: http://www.barbanddave.net SPK# 90761 FMCA #F337834 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 1 hour ago, orca said: I know that "global warming" and "climate change" is real because where i live right now was covered in ice one kilometer deep and it began melting about 25,000 years ago! Was it caused by human activity? Absolutly not! 25,000 years ago was a tad bit before the Industrial Revolution. SKP #79313 / Full-Timing / 2001 National RV Sea View / 2008 Jeep Wrangler Rubiconwww.rvSeniorMoments.comDISH TV for RVs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXiceman Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 Barbara sadly, all too many folks depend totally on the internet and only one news source for their information. As an engineer, I am well trained in multiple areas of science and feel your pain. It has always been an issue on how to educate those that are unwilling to be educated. Ken Amateur radio operator, 2023 Cougar 22MLS, 2022 F150 Lariat 4x4 Off Road, Sport trim <br />Travel with 1 miniature schnauzer, 1 standard schnauzer and one African Gray parrot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted October 8, 2021 Report Share Posted October 8, 2021 Humans increased species extinction rate by 1,000 times, new study says https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/animal-extinctions Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV_ Posted October 9, 2021 Report Share Posted October 9, 2021 (edited) When we add our carbon it can amplify changes. What causes the difference between winter and summer anyway? The earth is tilted on its axis relative to the sun. Half the year we are further away from the sun in our planet's northern hemisphere, winter, and half the time closer to the sun, summer, as our axis tilt doesn't always stay the same as we rotate around the sun. It changes which would put us further away in winter and closer in summer.Here's the science I am referring to: https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/features/Milankovitch/milankovitch_2.php#:~:text=As the axial tilt increases%2C the seasonal contrast,the axis varies between 22.1 and 24.5 degrees. So we may also be experiencing an axis tilt change, in addition to a shift in magnetic north. Edited October 9, 2021 by RV_ RV/Derekhttp://www.rvroadie.com Email on the bottom of my website page.Retired AF 1971-1998 When you see a worthy man, endeavor to emulate him. When you see an unworthy man, look inside yourself. - Confucius “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” ... Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 On 10/7/2021 at 12:54 PM, Barbaraok said: Orca. No one ever said man caused it all. Earth climate goes in cycles that are effected by slowing of the rotation of the earth, sun spots, movement of the moon, volcanic activity, decay of uranium in the core, movement of iron in the mantel affecting location off the poles, and on and on. And even with man interfering, the planet will be fine. But all of the current species on the planet may not survive because human activity has accelerated changes. No...natural climate change is much, much more significant than man-caused climate change. Read this book on climate change in the American west over the past 10,000 years. https://www.ucpress.edu/book/9780520286009/the-west-without-water The political leadership in this country does NOT believe in man-caused climate change. Not Biden, not Governors Inslee, Brown or Newsom!!! The world ends in seven years according to the climate alarmists. We need to do something NOW! Hey, we can reduce CO2 emissions by 10% TODAY in the US. But wait there is MORE...... 1) It will save the taxpayers tons of money, instead of requiring that tax dollars go to large Corporations to address climate change. 2) The Europeans are so impressed that they are requiring this government mandate to reduce their CO2 emissions. Nothing else worked. This does. You can't fool physics. 3) Wait, there more!!! No Congressional action needed, no public expenditure of funds needed. Best yet, Governors Inslee, Brown, and Newsome....those west coast "climate" Governors have the authority to do it....TODAY. 4) Wait, still skeptical?? Don't want to do something you haven't done before?? Well, you did it for 23 years!!! Yes, unfortunately, that Clinton/Gore Administration removed the FEDERAL regulations and gave the authority back to the states. That happened in 1995, just as the planet started warming. So are you willing to accept the need to change YOUR personal behavior back to 1995 to save the planet?? You might, but are politicians are so SCARED of implementing this regulation to save the planet, they REFUSE to even discuss it!!! SAVE THE PLANET......BRING BACK 55 MPH speed limit. The one thing we can do RIGHT NOW, without legislation. Almost every Governor in this country has the authority to do it. Governors Evans, McCall, and Reagan did it in 1973 to save energy. Today, 55 MPH will go a long way to saving the planet. Yet, none of the "climate" politicians will even discuss it!!! Yep, I will believe in man-caused climate change when I see the 55 MPH signs on the highways.....AGAIN. Vladimr Steblina Retired Forester...exploring the public lands. usbackroads.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV_ Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 RV/Derekhttp://www.rvroadie.com Email on the bottom of my website page.Retired AF 1971-1998 When you see a worthy man, endeavor to emulate him. When you see an unworthy man, look inside yourself. - Confucius “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” ... Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orca Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 We had a very hot and dry summer. It was hot enough to break records. The chicken littles were running around chanting "see that is proof that the planet is warming"...... but wait....in order to break records do you not have to have records? Some of said records were from 1890 and up to 1920. That is long before cars and crowded freeways. Next thing i think the true believers are giong to want is to change the tilt of the earth to moderate "climate change"! 2004 Freightliner m2 106 2015 DRV lx450 Fullhouse 2019 Indian Springfield 2014 Yamaha 950 V-Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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