Darryl&Rita Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 Coulda' punched them before you welded the pieces together. Could cut the welds, punch, then reweld. Get a good nights sleep, a healthy breakfast, then wrestle the works over to the press. Use hex bolts. I'm out of ideas here. Quote I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted August 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 If only I'd known where the holes needed to be earlier..... Such is one downside of not having the ability to use CAD. I have a vision, and I adapt as I go along. Wrestling the pieces to the press is not an option. The press is against a wall, so I would have to bring the press out in the open, then use the fork lift to move the pieces. But, the fork lift blew a seal in the mast cylinder yesterday....... It's looking like using a reciprocating saw to rough out the corners, then a machinists screw jack to push a 5/16" square file through might work. I don't have the bolts yet. When I get them, I'll see what the actual shoulder measurement is. Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 Ya, I was just yanking you chain. There's no easy answer here. An arbor press, hung off the overhead, might be able to generate enough pressure to push through.. A screw jack might, too. Quote I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaHybrid Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 Rick, order up a metric square broach in the size you need and set up a small press to push it thru the material. You can do it with an arbor press but it has to be a BIG one. Mine would make it but I'm not that close... You could also make up hydraulic one from bits and pieces around your shop. Quote 2017 Kenworth T6802015 DRV 38RSSA Elite Suites2016 Smart Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve from SoCal Posted August 26, 2021 Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 Do the fasteners HAVE to be carriage bolts? There are dome covers for hex bolts to make them "look like" rivets or carriage bolts. https://www.mcmaster.com/bolt-covers/ Quote 2005 Peterbilt 387-112 Baby Cat 9 speed U-shift 1996/2016 remod Teton Royal Atlanta 1996 Kentucky 48 single drop stacker garage project Pulls like a train, sounds like a plane....faster than a Cheetah sniffin cocaine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted August 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 Well, I was talking to Dan of "Dan and Freda" fame this morning when the light came on....... I'm bolting one side of an angle and welding the other. Just reverse the two, welding the angle to the wheel track and just resting the deck on top, making the bolts only holding the deck in place by holding the plate "down" rather than in a vertical plane, so never seeing any shear forces. Well, almost never. So now I can use my fancy little stainless button heads and everything will be fine. Big thanks to all the suggestions, and especially to Dan, who nudged me off center so I could see the fix. Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted August 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 26, 2021 So here's what I have. The angle will now be welded to the outside of the wheel channel, and the deck will be bolted down to that. Fender skirt and vertical plate at the frame rail will supply rigidity. This deck section will be in three pieces, fender/center/fender, so I can take out just one section for any service needs. Channels are also bolted to frame rails. There's 11" of space between the front channel and the exhaust support. Just perfect for storing a set of home brewed race ramps. Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark&Bonnie Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 Rick. Looking good. Cant wait to see it in person. You think a lot like I do, wing it. Meeting up with Dan and Freda middle of next week. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted August 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 Susan always says I come up with a plan, but change it six times before I'm finished. She ain't wrong. But I guarantee it won't fall apart, and it will work. Practical? Probably not, but I have to try in order to be sure. It's just no fun building it the way everyone else does...... Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad & Jacolyn Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 Those changes are called engineering modifications. A friend of ours would call it alternate plan A, alternate plan B, etc Quote Brad and Jacolyn Tucker the Wonder dog and Brynn the Norfolk Terrier 2009 Smart "Joy" 2004 VNL630 "Vonda the Volvo" 2008 Hitch Hiker 35 CK Champagne Edition VED12 465 HP, Freedomline, 3.73 ratio, WB 218" Fulltiming and loving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 Make sure you stay within your truck's GVWR GCWR GAWR WR & RR so you don't go into a force ten tank slapper, crash, and burn. Signed Internet warrior RV Weight Police. just kidding Quote "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted August 27, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 6 hours ago, noteven said: Make sure you stay within your truck's GVWR GCWR GAWR WR & RR so you don't go into a force ten tank slapper, crash, and burn. Signed Internet warrior RV Weight Police. just kidding Well, I do tend to avoid the scales when I'm motoring about on my Moto Guzzi Griso. The rear axle is overloaded under even moderate acceleration.......... So, today I had a visitor to the shop. Spindrift, aka Tom Stedulis, stopped in and had lunch with me. He's a sometimes visitor here, and even though he pulls his rv with a LGT, he does indeed own a real truck: Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 Tom that’s a good look looking rig. Quote "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted September 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 Tallied up the score sheet today..... So far, we're at $12,590 and counting. Just a wee bit over initial estimates. But, in all fairness, that includes ET hitch at almost $4400 inc. shipping, $2,000 for tool boxes,about $4,000 in steel and bending, and lots of welding gas, grinding wheels, saw blades, bolts, air line, 7 wire cable,tie downs, lights, etc. I don't expect any more significant cost besides paint. Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danandfreda Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 I would consider that under budget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted September 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) My cost would be lower if it weren't for the cheap labor, causing more grinding wheels, then more welding, more grinding.... I had one mounting tab I cut off and moved twice, so far (my fault). Had to grind out about three feet of seam weld because it didn't suit me. Had a helper that day who said he could weld. Everybody thinks they can weld, even me. Edited September 1, 2021 by rickeieio Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted September 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 Rolled the plasma cutter thingy out of the corner, pulled off the cover, plugged in the cord and air line, and was just about to make a cut when I heard something.. a soft hiss like air leaking. Ran my hand around the dryer and hoses, and suddenly it got louder. Coming from inside the machine, of course. Without further dialog, here's what I found and the solution: There are still some original lines. I bent them pretty severely and they didn't crack....yet. Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 DOT rated line, I assume? Just remember, a 5 minute job is 1 swear word away from becoming a 3 day ordeal. Quote I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpsinc Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 I found this that I am planning on fabbing a pair of doors for and then install as a DROM. Sure appears that it will store plenty of tools and equipment. I am hoping to be able to bring my fab tools and an inverter welder. Quote Marcel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted September 3, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 Darryl, The original and the replacement are NOT DOT rated. The clear vinyl is all I had handy so I could get the job done. I left the cover off just in case........ Marcel, I believe that will be just the ticket. Just hope it all holds up to the vibration. Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpsinc Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 hour ago, rickeieio said: Marcel, I believe that will be just the ticket. Just hope it all holds up to the vibration. Great minds think alike. I have a plan for that when I get it. Hope it will be successful. Quote Marcel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted September 4, 2021 Report Share Posted September 4, 2021 rpsinc - that equipment looks more organized than my milk crate system. Quote "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted September 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2021 Milk crates are perfect for all those aerosol cans of brake-kleen, electrical contact cleaner, chain lube, Kroil, etc. Fill any empty space with rags. 12" cast iron dutch oven just fits in one too. So, how do you overload a 5er rated for 21k? Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted September 4, 2021 Report Share Posted September 4, 2021 That vinyl tubing has been a life saver, more than once, in the oil patch. Respect it's ratings, and it'll serve faithfully in this usage. Quote I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lappir Posted September 4, 2021 Report Share Posted September 4, 2021 17 hours ago, rpsinc said: I found this that I am planning on fabbing a pair of doors for and then install as a DROM. Sure appears that it will store plenty of tools and equipment. I am hoping to be able to bring my fab tools and an inverter welder. Looks great , where did you find? I think I have enough room behind my box to mount one. Could you share info and measurements? Thanks, Rod Quote White 2000/2010Volvo VNL 770 with 7' Drom box with opposing doors, JOST slider hitch. 600 HP Cummins Signature 18 Speed three pedal auto shift. 1999 Isuzu VehiCross retired to a sticks and bricks garage. Brought out of storage the summer of 2022 2022 Jeep Wrangler Sport S Two door hard top. 2007 Honda GL 1800 2013 Space Craft Mfg S420 Custom built Toyhauler The Gold Volvo is still running and being emptied in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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