Vladimir Posted November 23, 2023 Report Share Posted November 23, 2023 https://www.sfgate.com/travel/article/google-maps-leads-californians-i-15-desert-18509727.php The part I liked was telling 911 that they didn't know where they were, while holding a cell phone in their hand during the conversation. Surprised, that 911 did not tell them how to access lat and long on their phones. We are doomed as a socity. Vladimir Quote Vladimr Steblina Retired Forester...exploring the public lands. usbackroads.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2gypsies Posted November 23, 2023 Report Share Posted November 23, 2023 When the road turned to gravel they should have turned around right there. Folks nowadays don't carry maps .... probably because they can't read them. Quote Full-timed for 16 YearsTraveled 8 yr in a 2004 Newmar Dutch Star 40' Motorhome and 8 yr in a 33' Travel Supreme 5th Wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat & Pete Posted November 23, 2023 Report Share Posted November 23, 2023 Sorry to say , but , 'the dumbing of America' is / has been a success . Quote Goes around , comes around . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladimir Posted November 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2023 I have been out in the desert and had the GPS unit say this way, and I said I don't think so. I do have a forester friend that refuses to get a stand alone GPS unit relying on his phone instead. He has lived in a city for so long that he keeps forgetting their is not cell service everywhere. Last time we were out hunting together. The GPS unit was wrong, Google maps were wrong. As well as the county paper maps. One problem is that the data layers come mostly from county records. In Washington state, the counties get road monies from the state based on miles of county roads. I have run into some "great" county roads that just crossed wheat fields. It is amazing how many people cannot read a paper map. I was running out of gas, when my friend suggested we take a short-cut. I kept following him, until my comfort level reached uncomfortable. Then stopped the caravan and pulled out my Forest Service map and located us on the map. It was then he asked "showed me how you figured that". He worked as a urban fireman and spent a lot of time outdoors. Never did learn to read a map!!! Quote Vladimr Steblina Retired Forester...exploring the public lands. usbackroads.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandsys Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 We were on a freeway in a new to us city. I knew our exit was coming up but Dave was driving in the left lane. When I asked why he said it felt like a left exit to him. He was right. He got that feeling from studying a paper map. I was driving though Kansas City when my GPS shut down. Fortunately, I had been that way before so knew what to do. Apparently, my GPS overheated from the sun shining through my windshield. It happened to me again the next year driving the same route heading south from Minnesota to Texas. But the absolute worst was when our GPS told us to turn down what was apparently an off-road place in the mountains. Dave drove us over a lot of loose shale before we got off that road safely. Sure glad he was driving. We once bought house in a new neighborhood. It took two years for our street to show up on our GPS. So, yes, check your GPS but don't place all of your trust in it. Linda Quote Blog: http://sandcastle.sandsys.org/ Former Rigs: Liesure Travel van, Winnebago View 24H, Winnebago Journey 34Y, Sportsmobile Sprinter conversion van Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 If you're on the US interstate system, the signage for a particular exit should be placed above and to the side of the sign to which you'll exit. BUT, I know of some places (Louisville, KY) where that's not true. Last summer, my child bride took most of the grandkids on a road trip from Cincinnati to Colorado. When she got in the car with a beat up atlas, they made fun of her for being old fashioned. They are now converts. Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce t Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 Don't blame others or the system. We have all become addicted to technology. Many folks simply haven't learnt to think for themselves. It's not a new trend. IQ has been around since Adam and Eve. Schools are adverse to teaching critical thinking or simple logic. Anyone wanting proof of the decline of IQ only has to look at our politicians! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deezl Smoke Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 2 hours ago, bruce t said: Don't blame others or the system. We have all become addicted to technology. Many folks simply haven't learnt to think for themselves. It's not a new trend. IQ has been around since Adam and Eve. Schools are adverse to teaching critical thinking or simple logic. Anyone wanting proof of the decline of IQ only has to look at our politicians! Ya hit that nail square on.👍 Older folks came up without technology, and as such can mostly find a way around when tech fails. Younger folks have not had that luxury. They are brought into technology from the start. Quote I'm a work'n on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 17 hours ago, Vladimir said: I do have a forester friend that refuses to get a stand alone GPS unit relying on his phone instead. He has lived in a city for so long that he keeps forgetting their is not cell service everywhere. I have used my cell phone lots of times for location without cell service but always in conjunction with paper maps. The GPS on the phone works just fine with no cell service. I use the lat/long/elevation with a USGS Topo or MVUM map when off-roading and have never gotten lost (yet, I suppose). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lou Schneider Posted November 24, 2023 Report Share Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) These fools made their own bad luck. I wish SFGate had a comments section. They couldn't even follow Google's directions, the pin on the map shows them well off of the intended route. Had they glanced at their phone before they turned off the highway they would have seen they were going down the wrong "road". They were supposed to take Sandy Valley Rd, 20 miles of 20 ft wide, graded and maintained road with a sign that says "Sandy Valley." I call it a "45 MPH road." If you go 45 MPH or faster all of the bumps disappear. From Sandy Valley it's another 20 miles on narrow two lane paved roads to I-15 at Jean. Instead, they took off down an unmarked, unmapped dirt track. Had they glanced at the phone before they left the highway they would have seen they were in the wrong place. What's really hilarious are the lemmings who blindly followed behind them. Or they could have looked at the suggested detour and said, "Hmmm. This will add an hour and a half on slow roads to our trip. Maybe we should just chill here until the freeway re-opens." Or take US 95 to I-40, it's only 30 minutes longer than taking I-15. At least they had fairly pleasant weather, not the 110 degree summer heat. Edited November 25, 2023 by Lou Schneider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray,IN Posted November 25, 2023 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 22 hours ago, bruce t said: Don't blame others or the system. We have all become addicted to technology. Many folks simply haven't learnt to think for themselves. It's not a new trend. IQ has been around since Adam and Eve. Schools are adverse to teaching critical thinking or simple logic. Anyone wanting proof of the decline of IQ only has to look at our politicians! I'd laugh if it wasn't so true. The sad part is, most of congress are lawyers. Quote 2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD, ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA ." And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy 20 Jan 1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyretired Posted November 25, 2023 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 (edited) Our mountain place is no where near where Maps shows it. Whenever I give instructions I have to emphatically state that or people will go where Maps shows. Where Maps shows is behind a locked gate. Even though I gave directions to a contractor he followed Maps and the gate was open so he drove on in. When he tried to leave the gate was locked. Spent a few hours before someone came by and let him out. No cell service. Edited November 25, 2023 by Randyretired To add no cell Quote Randy 2001 Volvo VNL 42 Cummins ISX Autoshift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second Chance Posted November 25, 2023 Report Share Posted November 25, 2023 13 hours ago, Ray,IN said: I'd laugh if it wasn't so true. The sad part is, most of congress are lawyers. While 51% of the senate have law degrees, only 30% of house members do. Of course, education, good sense, and intelligence aren't necessarily directly linked. Rob Quote 2012 F350 CC LB DRW 6.7 2020 Solitude 310GK-R, MORryde IS, disc brakes, solar, DP windows Full-time since 8/2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted November 27, 2023 Report Share Posted November 27, 2023 Most folks don't realize that many places/lanes on the digital maps are placed there by people like you and I. The only reason Pope Farms shows up on Google is because I put it there, in the proper location. OTOH, Google shows a Godfather's Pizza on our road, in a construction fill site. Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjim Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 On 11/25/2023 at 8:07 AM, Second Chance said: Of course, education, good sense, and intelligence aren't necessarily directly linked. Rob amen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2gypsies Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 Here's a good one that I just read today. Motorcyclist approached Titus Canyon Road in Death Valley which was barricaded and closed from recent flooding. His mapping app said it was open so he went around the barricades and eventually got marooned and had to have a helicopter rescue! https://www.nationalparkstraveler.org/2023/11/motorcyclists-rescued-after-driving-closed-titus-canyon-road-due-incorrect-map-app Quote Full-timed for 16 YearsTraveled 8 yr in a 2004 Newmar Dutch Star 40' Motorhome and 8 yr in a 33' Travel Supreme 5th Wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalkie Posted November 29, 2023 Report Share Posted November 29, 2023 11 hours ago, 2gypsies said: His mapping app said it was open so he went around the barricades and eventually got marooned and had to have a helicopter rescue! Who ya gonna believe? An app or your lyin' eyes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce t Posted November 30, 2023 Report Share Posted November 30, 2023 Interesting. Another Google maps story. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-30/grazier-makes-sign-trust-me-not-google-after-maps-confusion/103142386 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray,IN Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) Anything designed by humans is subject to errors. BTW, Rand McNally stopped supporting RV GPS units a few years ago, now their mapping program is designed strictly for OTR truckers and boating. If you still have a RM RV GPS, your lifetime maps is gone. https://randmcnally.com/map-updates/ Edited December 1, 2023 by Ray,IN Quote 2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD, ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA ." And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy 20 Jan 1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lappir Posted December 1, 2023 Report Share Posted December 1, 2023 22 minutes ago, Ray,IN said: Anything designed by humans is subject to errors. BTW, Rand McNally stopped supporting RV GPS units a few years ago, now their mapping program is designed strictly for OTR truckers and boating. If you still have a RM RV GPS, your lifetime maps is gone. https://randmcnally.com/map-updates/ I really liked the Rand McNally maps, the GPS unit was not very good and didn't last very long at all compared to the Garmin's I have had. Just got an iPhone and use the Carplay map or Waze in my Jeep and motorcycle. WIll have to keep an Android to use the unit I put in my new to me Truck. It won't talk to the iPhone. Rod Quote White 2000/2010Volvo VNL 770 with 7' Drom box with opposing doors, JOST slider hitch. 600 HP Cummins Signature 18 Speed three pedal auto shift. 1999 Isuzu VehiCross retired to a sticks and bricks garage. Brought out of storage the summer of 2022 2022 Jeep Wrangler Sport S Two door hard top. 2007 Honda GL 1800 2013 Space Craft Mfg S420 Custom built Toyhauler The Gold Volvo is still running and being emptied in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ann-Marie Posted December 30, 2023 Report Share Posted December 30, 2023 In the EARLY days of Google Maps we were following directions to a destination and got suspicious as the road quality was deteriorating. It actually did take us to within about 100 yards of the destination but on the WRONG side of the river. It was about a 15 mile drive to correct it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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