remoandiris Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 I've Googled, Binged, and read brochures, but I can't find a thing on overall length. Can anyone point me to a site that lists the overall length of VNMs and VNLs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Dreamer Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 Nope because there is no simple answer. The length will vary depending on how truck was specified by the original buyer. Depends on many items such as Cab size, wheel base, single or tandem, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remoandiris Posted July 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 Wow. I had no idea. I expected a standard length. Guess I need to call Rv Haulers or Herrin with my wish list and see if it is possible, then go from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 From Jack's site. VNM Daycab front bumper to back of cab 112" VNL Daycab front bumper to back of cab 123" now add sleeper 42, 61 or 77 inches. In Ontario we have a maximum wheelbase which I believe is 244 inches but I've seen some of the trucks in the SW US running 300 or more so that is why there is no definitive answer to your question. Plus many people selling used trucks don't know the difference between models. Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlvillestu Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 Bumper to back of cab VNL730/780 - 189" VNL630/670 - 173" VNL430 - 154" VNL300 - 122" VNMs - subtract 9" The daycab's cab is 10" longer than the "front" (non-sleeper) part of the sleeper cabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill B Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 VNM is a truck without the skirts and the VNL is one with skirts / fairings on the side. After that BCC is ??? spec'ed. look at some of the AlumaBunk's that the moving companies use. Then flip to the expeditors with straight trucks. Now, throw in frame extensions, beds, singling, and ???? other stuff. All over the map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatsnext Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 230" is what a lot of people have when going to a smart bed. We have 236" with an 81" overhang which will give us ample room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remoandiris Posted July 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 Maybe I should have stated this upfront, maybe not...I want to carry a 50" RZR and my GoldWing on the rear deck. The truck's overall length can be no more than 25' to stay under 65' when towing. Also have to account for tie-down points for the GoldWing. The RZR tie-down points are right beside the tires, but the bike tie-downs need to be several inches out from each side. Maybe putting the RZR against the cab and the bike rearward of that might work. If it is not possible, I'll have to rethink my wants and needs. At this point a call to RV Haulers is in order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 230" is what a lot of people have when going to a smart bed. We have 236" with an 81" overhang which will give us ample room. That is with a 780/730 cab. A shorter truck can be used with a 61" cab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC and Angie Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 That's probably not going to happen. I have a smart, about the size of a razor and I'm at 30 ft. Volvo 780 with a Herrin deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 25 feet is either day cab, or cab-over territory. Time to review your needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 From a 780 to a 420 you will loose close to 3 foot. Haven't measured one but they are a lot shorter. Don't know of any RVers with one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 25 feet is either day cab, or cab-over territory. Time to review your needs. Correct. What you want to do is not going to happen with a condo cab truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 The 65' overall length is law in most states, but many folks are several feet longer- 68-70' and haven't had issues. NOT that it's legal, BUT many folks here that have long beds on long frame trucks with long trailers are illegal. It's just ignored. When asked how long they are, many folks will say something like 65' and 49".... When we are done with our configuration of truck and trailer, I expect to be 69' overall, ready to roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke-E Posted July 4, 2015 Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 There are a number of states that are shorter than 65' too...there's no magic to that number other than that it gets you legal in most states (36 by quick count on the Good Sam list). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remoandiris Posted July 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 4, 2015 25 feet is either day cab, or cab-over territory. Time to review your needs. I'm afraid you're right. There isn't a lot of love for cab-over RV haulers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mant Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 What are the issues with a cabover design? Is it just a comfort issue? It seems like that is all they use overseas for long hauling. Wouldn't a cabover solve a lot of the length issues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 What are the issues with a cabover design? Is it just a comfort issue? It seems like that is all they use overseas for long hauling. Wouldn't a cabover solve a lot of the length issues? I am sure it would solve most of the over length issues. Biggest problem would be finding a good one with an automated transmission. My understanding is the Argosy was quite comfortable to drive and a few even had the auto. I'd love to see some of the European cabovers here but you would probably have to severely discount them to sell. Nigel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdickinson Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 Cabovers are not very common and probably older trucks. I see lots of Freightliners. So they are either high milers or rebuilt. In South America and Europe they are more common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark and Dale Bruss Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 Way back in history before sensible length laws came to bear, you found COE trucks in the East because of the restrictive length laws. In the West, where coming down mountains made short wheelbase trucks more subject to jack-knifing, even if you found a COE, the frame was still long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 For our use I'd love to have a new Volvo FN series cabover, like they use in the rest of the world. But don't hold your breath. There is no market for that truck in North America. (on edit: I should not say "NO MARKET"...BUT JUST A VERY LIMITED MARKET). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&K Posted July 5, 2015 Report Share Posted July 5, 2015 Me too. Can't think of a better unit to haul an RV. Although 735hp MAN would be fine too. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Security team 24/7 Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 I'm 69 ft 4in and have never had a problem in either Texas or Arizona where the 65ft law exists!Been running down there for quite a number of years now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peety3 Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 I can see talking my 5'2" tall wife into climbing into a VNL (where the floor is 4' off the ground) and then standing up to walk into the sleeper. I cannot see talking my wife into climbing into a cabover, then crawling over the "doghouse" (engine/transmission hump) to make it into the sleeper. Face it, the RDBE count would probably go down with cabovers. There's probably also more engine noise with the engine under-foot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&K Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Modern cab overs are nearly flat floor, and very well insulated. There is a lot of engine back inside the cab volume in a VNL with a D-16 for example. http://www.volvotrucks.com/SiteCollectionDocuments/VTC/Market/Trucks/volvo-fh-series/pdf/Volvo-FH-Series_UK.pdf And that truck is available with a 750hp D-16 just for giggles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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