California RV parks and CG's ordered closed

[Ray,IN]

PDF from California Department of Public Health:

 I think we should avoid discussing the logic involved.

Edited December 7, 2020 by Ray,IN

[remoandiris]

16 minutes ago, Ray,IN said:

PDF from California Department of Public Health: file:///C:/Users/fowle/AppData/Local/Temp/12.3.20-Stay-at-Home-Order-ICU-Scenario%20(1).pdf

 

No file attached that I can find.

[D&J]

Calfornia state parks and campgrounds were ordered closed.

Denny

[NamMedevac 70]

Thanks for the heads up alert D&J.  Brannon Island SP is one of my favorites due to fishing the Sacramento River there and Rio Vista.  Everything  there is outdoors and campsites are mostly spaced at least fifty feet apart with no indoor facilities except the nice toilets and a large spacious five lane boat launch area.  Unfortunately toilets are not self cleaning and it is necessary to protect the staff and others.  Safety first for all. I will continue to use remote BLM lands in Nevada.  Happy Camping

Edited December 6, 2020 by NamMedevac 70

[Ray,IN]

On 12/5/2020 at 9:46 PM, remoandiris said:

No file attached that I can find.

I forgot to make that link hot:Here it is again

Edited December 7, 2020 by Ray,IN
fixes hot link

[sandsys]

1 hour ago, Ray,IN said:

I forgot to make that link hot:Here it is again

Still doesn't go anywhere except right back here.

[NamMedevac 70]

Here is link to Brannan Island State Park and information in pink says what is open and closed.  I assume this may be current info but not sure.

Brannan Island SRA (ca.gov)

[Jinx & Wayne]

Here is the link to the California State Parks COVID page

[agesilaus]

I saw a note on RVTravel that said the parks in the parts of the state that are under a lockdown order are closed. I assume others are not. But looking at the list my guess is that the central Sierra region and the southern desert region are shutdown along with the coasr from frisco south. But they just listed county names so I could be wrong.

The big question is what about the fed parks, haven't they been following the state's rules?

Yup: DVNP

Quote

Campgrounds, lodging closing

Alert 1 , Severity ,closure ,,Campgrounds, lodging closingIn support of the State of California's Regional Stay at Home Order, the park will close campgrounds by noon 12/7. Lodging also closes with these orders.

 

[hemsteadc]

I just got booted  out of a CA state park.  Again.  It happened in March also.  Same twisted logic of removing self-contained campers who are far apart, and leaving bathrooms open for day use.

I get it..  you want us to leave a perfectly safe place and go to a crowded RV park in a city.

Edited December 6, 2020 by hemsteadc

[D&J]

11 hours ago, NamMedevac 70 said:

Thanks for the heads up alert D&J.  Brannon Island SP is one of my favorites due to fishing the Sacramento River there and Rio Vista.  Everything  there is outdoors and campsites are mostly spaced at least fifty feet apart with no indoor facilities except the nice toilets and a large spacious five lane boat launch area.  Unfortunately toilets are not self cleaning and it is necessary to protect the staff and others.  Safety first for all. I will continue to use remote BLM lands in Nevada.  Happy Camping

The park we are in closed all the bathrooms and clubhouse but we didn't use the bathrooms before so no big deal, we've learned to adapt and not panic.

Denny 

 

 

 

 

 

[NamMedevac 70]

44 minutes ago, D&J said:

The park we are in closed all the bathrooms and clubhouse but we didn't use the bathrooms before so no big deal, we've learned to adapt and not panic.

Denny 

 

 

 

 

 

No panic here as I learned 50 years ago to be very flexible about almost everything.  Cheers

[bigjim]

1 hour ago, hemsteadc said:

I just got booted  out of a CA state park.  Again.  It happened in March also.  Same twisted logic of removing self-contained campers who are far apart, and leaving bathrooms open for day use.

I get it..  you want us to leave a perfectly safe place and go to a crowded RV park in a city.

i lean toward this being an error in judgement but trying to manage all this all this is one of the bigger nightmares I can think of especially when so many work against you vs trying to help. Kind of like a battle plan that mostly goes to hell with the battle starts.  It is way easier to control a squad than a battalion or an army. Event squad can be really hard if you have not trained and fought together when everyone is scared witless and as navmedevac said you have to be flexible.

This may not be cool but I may hold grudge for however long I live against any minister or church that fought and declared instead of trying to ask how can we help. Not to say as things progress and we all learn you can not propose constructive ways to make it better. Even safe ways to worship. This doesn't just apply to ministers and churches.

[Kirk W]

18 minutes ago, bigjim said:

This may not be cool but I may hold grudge for however long I live against any

any person whose actions endanger me, my family, or my friends.

Edited December 6, 2020 by Kirk W

[hemsteadc]

1 hour ago, bigjim said:

i lean toward this being an error in judgement but trying to manage all this all this is one of the bigger nightmares I can think of especially when so many work against you vs trying to help.

They could limit the number of campers.  They could make sure they're properly distanced.  But no, that's too hard, so they just close them.  Considering how lax they are at maintenance in these campgrounds at the Salton sea, I can understand it.

[bigjim]

 I think I will TRY and restrain myself a little starting now and at least until tomorrow before I start to see negative points even if I might deserve them.😀 Just all remember  my heart is in the right place.😁 (brain my not be with it.😛

PS see emojis linda

[bigjim]

4 minutes ago, hemsteadc said:

They could limit the number of campers.  They could make sure they're properly distanced.  But no, that's too hard, so they just close them.  Considering how lax they are at maintenance in these campgrounds at the Salton sea, I can understand it.

I am sure this is no consolation but the same sort of thing is occuring all across the country and giving people the benefit of the doubt it is an enormous endeavor to manage.   I was told back about end of March or April that one SKP park was reported by a member for being over capacity.  They were legal as they were not required to evict, just not accept more until they got down to 25% capacity. The reporter just did not have a clear understanding of the mandate at that time.

[ToddF]

https://rvbusiness.com/report-california-bans-overnight-stays-in-campgrounds/

[sandsys]

1 hour ago, bigjim said:

see emojis linda

I see them. Good job.  

Linda

[Ray,IN]

21 hours ago, sandsys said:

Still doesn't go anywhere except right back here.

Hot links work now.  https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/Regional-Stay-at-Home-Order-.aspx

[Twotoes]

I wonder if this includes all the weekend warriors who go out to the Imperial Sand Dunes between El Centro and Yuma AZ and camp out in the desert?

[Ray,IN]

10 hours ago, Twotoes said:

I wonder if this includes all the weekend warriors who go out to the Imperial Sand Dunes between El Centro and Yuma AZ and camp out in the desert?

The way I interpret paragraphs 2 sub-paragraphs g,and h, boondocking on unimproved public land is permitted when CDPH safety protocols are followed. Then again, I'll not be the one paying the penalty for any violations.

[agesilaus]

From the news reports I've seen many Cali sheriffs have announced that they refuse to enforce this lockdown, especially the non coastal sheriffs. So they may not be harassing boondockers.

[fpmtngal]

As far as federal lands go, I’m hearing mixed reports from friends in California. One friend who was supposed to check into a Yosemite campground had their reservation canceled (full refund), the park is closed except for day use. Pinnacles National Park is taking the exceptions more into account - if you claim to be a full-timer looking for shelter they won’t turn you away if you have a reservation. A lot of state parks are closed for various reasons (one is closed due to fires that might otherwise be open).

Theres so much uncertainty right now and it can change almost hourly, it’s very hard to count on anything, and none of the people I know were planning on boondocking.

[Lou Schneider]

Death Valley is open for day use but closed their campgrounds effective today.  But there are workarounds.  Longstreet Casino and RV Resort is just across the NV border in Amargosa Valley and is only 40 minutes away from Furnace Creek.  Pahrump, NV is 20 minutes further and has numerous RV parks.  And gas prices low enough to more than pay for the drive back and forth.