Brad & Jacolyn Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Good Morning, As some of you know I have had a bit of trouble this year with fuel injectors. I have everything working now and have been told that I should be running fuel additives because of the low Sulfur fuel removing lubrication. I add Cetane booster on occasion but is there something specific I should be adding to the tank? I checked the forum but did not see anything with specific names. Any help would be appreciated. Brad Brad and Jacolyn Tucker the Wonder dog and Brynn the Norfolk Terrier 2009 Smart "Joy" 2004 VNL630 "Vonda the Volvo" 2008 Hitch Hiker 35 CK Champagne Edition VED12 465 HP, Freedomline, 3.73 ratio, WB 218" Fulltiming and loving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 2 schools of thought- 1- Add Power Service, Lucas, or anything helps with the lubrication 2- If you run any Bio-Diesel, the veggie oil mix replaces the lost lube. It also cleans lines, pumps, injectors, etc. I can tell the difference when I fill at a Murphys VS big truck stop that runs pure diesel. The Bio at Murphys gives me a little less mpg- .01-.02, but I get no soot, less engine rattle, and injector noise with it. Murphys, Race Trac, Speedway all run B-5. Just so there's no confusion, we have a '98 Volvo with the M-11 engine. No EGR, no cat, no extra emission stuff. The newer engines may react different. Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wawrd1 Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 2 schools of thought- 1- Add Power Service, Lucas, or anything helps with the lubrication 2- If you run any Bio-Diesel, the veggie oil mix replaces the lost lube. It also cleans lines, pumps, injectors, etc. I can tell the difference when I fill at a Murphys VS big truck stop that runs pure diesel. The Bio at Murphys gives me a little less mpg- .01-.02, but I get no soot, less engine rattle, and injector noise with it. Murphys, Race Trac, Speedway all run B-5. Just so there's no confusion, we have a '98 Volvo with the M-11 engine. No EGR, no cat, no extra emission stuff. The newer engines may react different. I have had the same experience in both my ford F350's (7.3 & 6.0) and my IH with DT466. I run out of a bulk tank stored at home most of the time where I blend B20 with my regular fuel to a B5. Wish I could get B100 in my area for blending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Who told you to use an additive, and what did they recommend? Most (all?) additives are only good for separating the purchaser from his money. I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Brad, No expert but the only thing I add is a Power Services biologic if I'm going to be sitting for awhile. Keeps the "slime" from forming. Not necessary if your are driving enough to keep replacing the fuel. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry&Donna-AK Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 A deisel mechanic in Utah told me that with Low Sulphur fuels it could ruin injectors on older engines. He swore by and highly recommended "FPPF" Deisel Injector Cleaner. Planning Nanook version 2.0 Nanook "When we made ready to depart, after a few days, Nanook was beside himself with joy. Hudson Stuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Have been using Power Service for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maveric Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 X2 Chris & Tonya '99 Freightliner FLD120, '01 Wabash Toyhauler (32' garage, 20' LQ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyerjf Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 In the real world of trucking the only reason for an additive is to prevent fuel gelling at very cold temps. None of the mega carriers will even authorize the charge on a fuel ticket unless it is below zero. But, HDT trucks are a different service. Water accumulation from condensation over periods of non use. I noticed it recently when I took most of the winter off in Summerdale, went back to trucking and had to replace fuel filters well ahead of normal service interval. Pick out the reputable water dispursing additive of your choice and use it when you start driving again after a period of sitting (more than 2 weeks ) or if symptoms develop. The only thing you can hurt is your wallet. The low sulfur creating lack of lubrication is a non issue. If it were a problem trucking companies would be buying injectors, they aren't. I have replaced 1 injector in 1.7 million miles. The additives have a powerful placebo effect. Don't get hooked. Jeff Beyer temporarily retired from Trailer Transit 2000 Freightliner Argosy Cabover 2008 Work and Play 34FK Homebase NW Indiana, no longer full time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billr Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Non emission truck I use Power service to get Cetane boost and winter coverage. Some lube effect too. Never an issue with cold temps in 9 yrs. Truck parked all summer now used to be parked all winter in cold. Now on the road in winter. Fuel sits for long periods. Filters once a year seems to work well. Friend told a funny story about a gent we all know here ha. He was in Wally World watching s guy looking at Lucus fuel treatment. He asked our friend is this stuff good? Our friend opened it stuck his finger in it and tasted it. Said yup it's fine Lol. Vegetable Oil. He said. Bill and Joan and 3 Collie pups 2001 Volvo VNL 770 "The Doghouse" Singled short, "ET" hItch VED12 465HP Gen 1 Autoshift 3.58 ratio 2005 Mobile Suite 38RL3 2011 Smart Passion loaded piggybacK Weigh-It Portable RV Scales http://www.weighitrv.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDR Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Being in the Marine industry I have seen additives come and go. Have tried many, have talked with many that have tried many. The "only" one that I would recommend is Soltron. Period! Not the imitation Startron. But the original "Soltron". This stuff works! It does more than "treat" the fuel. But don't take my word, research it yourself. Curt 2001 Freightliner Century, 500hp Series 60, Gen 2 autoshift, 3.42 singled rear locker. 2004 Keystone Sprinter 299RLS (TT) 2 & 4 Wheelers! 2013 Polaris Ranger 800 midsize LE Our motto "4 wheels move the body, 2 wheels move the soul!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ray.service Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 2 schools of thought- 1- Add Power Service, Lucas, or anything helps with the lubrication 2- If you run any Bio-Diesel, the veggie oil mix replaces the lost lube. It also cleans lines, pumps, injectors, etc. I can tell the difference when I fill at a Murphys VS big truck stop that runs pure diesel. The Bio at Murphys gives me a little less mpg- .01-.02, but I get no soot, less engine rattle, and injector noise with it. Murphys, Race Trac, Speedway all run B-5. Just so there's no confusion, we have a '98 Volvo with the M-11 engine. No EGR, no cat, no extra emission stuff. The newer engines may react different. Not sure about the other major's but Pilot/FJ uses a bio blend. IIRC up to 10% Ray & Deb - Shelbi the Aussie & Lexington the cat2004 Volvo 630 500HP ISX "Bertha D" - 10 Speed-MaxBrake -ET hitch.SOLD2009 Designer 35RLSA SOLDFulltiming since '07 - stopped 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Like Jeff, I only use an additive to break up water. It may or may not do anything else. If it does, great. But I use it for water and algae. Believe me, water can be a big issue in trucks that sit a lot. Jack & Danielle Mayer #60376 Lifetime Member Living on the road since 2000PLEASE no PM's. Email me. jackdanmayer AT gmail 2016 DRV Houston 44' 5er (we still have it) 2022 New Horizons 43' 5er 2016 Itasca 27N 28' motorhome 2019 Volvo 860, D13 455/1850, 236" wb, I-Shift, battery-based APU No truck at the moment - we use one of our demo units 2016 smart Passion, piggyback on the truck -------------------------------------------------------------------------See our website for info on New Horizons 5th wheels, HDTs as tow vehicles, communications on the road, and use of solar powerwww.jackdanmayer.com Principal in RVH Lifestyles. RVH-Lifestyles.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 On gas we always used alcohol. Diesel, don't think so 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yarome Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 The additives have a powerful placebo effect. Don't get hooked. This says it best. About the only thing I do use on occasion, as needed, is Sea Foam, but that's just because it's what I keep on hand as a "do it all" treatment/cleaner. Cleans, lubes, stabilizes, water control, etc. and can be used in gas, diesel, oil, trans, power steering, etc etc fluids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickS Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 I use this when storing my truck for the winter. Rick & Carey,Excel W41GKE Wild Cargo Toyhauler Volvo 730, D13, I-shift, 500/1850Brabus Smart Car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sehc Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 The only fuel or oil additives to use must say "magic" someplace on the label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker56 Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Research on Diesel Additives I use to use Opti-Lube Summer Blend in mine. #4 in the test. But I quit using it over a year ago. As now almost all Flying J/Pilot add Bio, which is #1 in the test for lubricant. I still add some biocide at times to stop any Algae growth. Full Time since Oct. 199999 Discovery 34Q DP | ISBDatastorm | VMSpc | Co-Pilot Live | Pressure Pro2014 MKS Twin Turbo V6 365 HP Toad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrknrvr Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 35 lbs to 100 gallons of fuel Safe Travels, Vern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker56 Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Diesel weights in at 7.25-7.5 pounds per gallon So 100 gal would be 725 to 750 lbs. not 35 lbs Full Time since Oct. 199999 Discovery 34Q DP | ISBDatastorm | VMSpc | Co-Pilot Live | Pressure Pro2014 MKS Twin Turbo V6 365 HP Toad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrknrvr Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 35lbs container of vegetable to 100 gallons fuel. About 19 bucks at Costco. Sorry I could not resist. Bad, Vern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrknrvr Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 But I have used it for 9 plus years Still bad Safe Travels, Vern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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