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  1. RV GENERATOR TROUBLESHOOTING GUIDE A Service of FLIGHT SYSTEMS 207 Hempt Road • Mechanicsburg, PA 17050 Ph: 717 590 7330 Fax: 717 590 7327 www.flightsystems.com CONTENTS RV Generator Troubleshooting Overview 1 RV Generator FAQs 5 Onan® RV Generator Charts: Applications Chart 8 Test Information for Troubleshooting 9Regulator Pin Assignment Chart 10 Control Board P/N Supersedence 10 Oil Press/Level Switch Locations 10 Onan® RV Generator Control Board & Regulator Illustrations Voltage Regulator Mating Plug 11 300-2784/2943 Control Board (Onan® Original) 11 300-2784/2943 Control Board (F.S. Replacement) 12 300-3056/3687 Control Board 12 300-3763/3764 Control Board 13 300-4901 Control Board 300-4902 Control Board 300-4320 Control Board 300-4155 Control Board 13 14 14 15 Issued 6/08; Revised 1/09 RV GENERATOR TROUBLESHOOTING OVERVIEW HOW DOES MY RV GENERATOR WORK? Note: While this troubleshooting guide is applicable to most makes of RV Gen Sets, there are many specific refer- ences to particular Onan® Models as these widely used RV Generators are the brand we (Flight Systems) provide replacement control boards, voltage regulators and test equipment (the G-MAN) for. What the Engine Control Board Does The engine control board or module controls the ignition, fuel pump, fuel solenoid (if equipped), field flash and starter. On LP models, it controls the flow of LP gas to the throttle body. Some models prevent the engine from starting if there is insufficient oil quantity. Some models prevent continued running if there is insufficient oil pressure. See Trouble- shooting Chart. NOTE: On models equipped with electronic governors (BGM, NHM Spec. B and later, 300-3764 control board), the oil pressure signal to the control board comes from the governor module. Additionally, most models require a voltage from the generator to keep the engine running once it has started. See Troubleshooting Chart. All controls terminate cranking and lock out the starter after the engine has started. The battery charging circuit is part of the control board on some models, and external on others. NOTE: The controls used on Models KY (Spec. J), KYD (Spec. A), HGJAB and HGJAC are microprocessor-based and combine the functions of the engine control and regulator in one module (300-5046, 327-1413 and 300-5374). Because these modules are difficult or impossible to access without special tools, they are not covered in these instructions. What the Regulator Does When the generator is first started, the regulator receives the field flash voltage from the control board and applies it to the generator field (rotor) to initiate AC voltage buildup in the stator. After the generator output voltage builds up, the regulator maintains it nearly constant (within a few volts of 120 VAC) under conditions of varying load. It does this by sensing the 120 volts and constantly adjusting the DC field (rotor) voltage up or down, as needed. For example, if you turn on a light, the regulator would respond by increasing the field voltage only slightly to compensate for the added load. If you turn on a microwave oven or an air conditioner, the regulator would increase the field voltage by a much larger amount, in proportion to the heavier load. The regulator has a built-in protection circuit that reduces the output voltage of the generator if the engine is running too slow. The purpose of this feature is to protect your appliances from receiving full voltage at the lowered frequency, as this can cause damage to motors and transformers. What the Bridge Rectifier Does The Bridge Rectifier is found on RV generators that do not have an electronic voltage regulator. This will typically be found on BGE / NHE generators spec A-E. It serves two major functions, field flash and field (rotor) voltage supply. Upon starting, the control board provides 12 volts DC to the field windings via the + terminal of the rectifier. Once oil pressure comes up another set of relays closes and opens accordingly, on the control board, and then the rectifier begins to work. It now takes sensed voltage from the regulating transformer on the AC leads and rectifies it to DC voltage on the + and – terminals. This is now the DC voltage that supplies the rotor of the generator. Normal Starting Sequence This is what normally happens when you start your genset. Pressing and holding the start switch causes the control board to send 12 volts to the ignition, fuel pump, choke heater, start solenoid and field flash circuits. The engine then cranks and starts. Oil pressure and generator voltage build up within 1-2 seconds. This causes the control board to keep sending 12 volts to the ignition, fuel pump and choke heater while cutting off 12 volts to the starter solenoid and field flash circuits. The start switch can then be released and the engine keeps running. Some models differ slightly in operation. On models equipped with magneto ignition (KV, Spec. C-F; KY, Spec. A-E), the control board un-grounds the magneto kill circuit. Model KY, Spec. B-E uses a fuel solenoid in addition to the fuel pump. Models fueled by LP gas use a fuel shutoff solenoid valve instead of a fuel pump. Several conditions can prevent the engine from starting/ running and are covered under Troubleshooting. Normal Stopping Sequence This is what happens when you stop your genset. Pressing and holding the stop switch for a few seconds causes the control board to cut off the 12 volts to the ignition and fuel pump (and/or fuel solenoid valve) causing the engine to stop. On models equipped with magneto ignition, the control board grounds the magneto kill circuit. Several condi- tions can cause the engine to stop by itself and are covered under Troubleshooting. 1 TROUBLESHOOTING Determine the control board part number from the board or from the Application Chart, then refer to the Troubleshoot- ing Chart for test information specific to that board. This troubleshooting guide assumes that the person doing the work has basic mechanical skills and is familiar with electrical troubleshooting procedures using a multi-meter. Having a practical knowledge of RV generators is helpful, but not absolutely necessary. DISCLAIMER: Generator servicing can present certain hazards such as cuts, burns, electric shock, fire, and exposure to exhaust fumes. Take suitable precautions. Flight Systems will not assume any liability for personal injury or damage to equipment or property as a result of using this Troubleshooting Guide. Getting the Engine Running Before any evaluation of the controls, regulator or generator can proceed, the Onan engine must have oil and fuel, be in running condition and the 12-volt battery charged. The electronic governor, 151-0752, on Models BGM and NHM, Spec B and later, must be functioning properly. This guide does not cover engine maintenance and repair procedures (please refer to the applicable Onan Service Manual for this information). The most common engine problems are caused mainly by lack of use and/or lack of regular monthly exercise and include the following: • Low battery voltage because of insufficient charge, worn out battery, faulty cables (partly broken or corroded) or poor connections, resulting in slow cranking and hard starting. • Old or contaminated fuel that has gummed up the lines, fuel filter and carburetor. This can cause clogged jets (mix- ture too lean) and/or a stuck carburetor float resulting in an improper mixture (too rich or too lean) or flooding. • Weak spark and/or fouled spark plug(s) causing hard starting and rough running. • Stuck automatic choke causing an excessively rich mixture and smoking. • Stuck oil pressure switch causing shutdown as soon as the start button is released. • Dirty air filter, causing an excessively rich mixture and smoking. • Low oil level preventing starting on models equipped with low oil level switch. • Wiring harness damage from rodents chewing on the wires. • Corrosion of control board or connections from salty air or road chemicals. FOLLOW THESE STEPS: 1. CHECK OIL Check engine oil level before starting. 2. GAIN ACCESS Remove panel or cover to gain access to the control board. Some disassembly may be required. The exact procedure depends on the model. 3. CHECK BATTERY VOLTAGE Connect the negative voltmeter lead to GROUND and the positive lead to the positive battery cable on the starter solenoid and read the battery voltage. The same reading should be obtained at the BATTERY POSITIVE pin of the control board. A fully charged battery in good condition should read 12.6 to 12.8 VDC. Charge the battery if necessary. CHECK CRANKING Try to start the engine. If it does not crank, check the control fuse (5A Slo Blo, except models with electronic governor 10A). If the fuse is good, jumper the positive battery post to the coil terminal on the start so- lenoid. If the engine cranks, there is a poor connection, wiring damage or the control board is defective. If the engine cranks when the BATTERY POSITIVE pin is jumpered to the START SOLENOID pin on the control board, the board is defective. NOTE: The battery voltage should not go below 9.5 VDC during cranking. 2 2. CHECK SPARK If the engine cranks but does not start, remove a spark plug and check for spark during cranking (spark plug must be grounded). Temporarily jumper the ignition coil positive to the starter solenoid positive termi- nal, or jumper the BATTERY POSITIVE pin to the IGNITION pin on the control board. If you now have spark, there is a poor connection, wiring damage or the control board is defective. To determine if it is the control board, check for 12 volts at the IGNITION pin during cranking. Other problems such as dirty /worn points or a defective coil can cause loss of spark. On models where the oil level switch is hard-wired to the magneto (KV Spec. C-F, KVC and KVD), low oil level or a stuck switch will inhibit the spark and prevent starting. On these models, it may be necessary to temporarily disconnect the oil level switch if it is stuck closed and not opening. To check the level switch, unplug the control board and verify that the MAGNETO KILL circuit on the control harness is not ground- ed. Refer to the Troubleshooting Chart. 3. CHECK FUEL SYSTEM If the engine cranks and has spark but does not start, the problem is likely fuel related. This can be confirmed by injecting a small amount of starting fluid into the air intake. If the engine fires and tries to run, it is starving for fuel. Listen for the fuel pump running during cranking. Check for 12 volts at the FUEL PUMP pin on the control board during cranking. If there is no voltage, the control board is defective. The pres- sure and flow of the fuel pump (and fuel filter) can be checked by temporarily disconnecting the fuel line to the carburetor and jumpering the FUEL PUMP pin on the control plug to battery positive. Take adequate precautions when handling fuel. If pressure and flow are normal, reconnect fuel line. Note: If the generator has not been run for several months, the carburetor float may be stuck closed and /or the jets and needle valves may be gummed up by old fuel that has turned to varnish. These conditions interfere with normal fuel delivery. The automatic choke may be stuck closed or binding so that it does not open as the choke heater warms up. On Models BGM and NHM spec. B and later, make sure that the electronic governor goes to full throttle one second after cranking begins. Any of these conditions will prevent the engine from starting or running smoothly and must be corrected before proceed- ing. 4. CHECK IF ENGINE KEEPS RUNNING The most common complaint is that the engine starts but will not keep running when the START switch is released. This happens because the control board will not allow the engine to continue running if the generator is not producing voltage or if the oil pressure signal is not present. See CONDI- TIONS REQUIRED TO KEEP RUNNING on the Troubleshooting Chart for your model. If the engine will not keep running, do the following: A1. Generator AC Output Check the generator AC output voltage as soon as the engine starts. Models showing “B1-B2 Volts” or “L1 AC Volts” under CONDITIONS REQUIRED TO KEEP RUNNING need this AC voltage to keep running. Read between the points shown on the Troubleshooting Chart. If the AC voltage readings are good, proceed to “B” below. A2. Field Flash If there is no AC, check for 10-12 VDC at the FIELD FLASH pin of the control board dur- ing cranking. If the field flash voltage is not present, the control board is defective. If the field flash volt- age is present, the wiring or regulator may be defective. To eliminate the wiring, check continuity between the FIELD FLASH pin of the control board and pin 7 of the regulator. If the continuity is good, either the regulator or the field circuit (rotor and brushes) may be the problem. A3 Field Circuit Check the field circuit by unplugging the regulator and measuring the resistance between pins 9 and 10 of the regulator’s mating plug. This reading should be 22 to 28 ohms. If this reading is too high, check the brushes and/or clean the slip rings (use the Slick Stick, or a similar tool). If this reading is too low, there may be a short in the rotor. Also, check the resistance from pins 9 and 10 to ground. This reading should be very high or infinity. If not, there is likely a ground in the rotor. If these reading are all 3 A4 External Excitation To confirm that the regulator is defective, turn off the generator’s AC circuit breaker(s), reconnect the regulator and apply 12 volts through a diode to pin 9 of the regulator plug (see il- lustration) while attempting to start the engine. CAUTION: DO NOT attempt this without the diode. If you do, there will be fireworks! Remove the 12 volts within 1-2 seconds after the engine starts. If the genset now continues to run and produces normal AC voltage, the generator is OK and the regulator is defective. If the genset does not continue to run but produces about 40% of normal AC voltage, again the generator is OK and the regulator is defective. If no AC voltage is produced, the generator may have a problem that is beyond the scope of this guide. Re-check all wiring for security and signs of damage. It may be necessary to take the unit to a qualified repair shop. B. Check the oil pressure switch as soon as the engine starts. Models showing “LOP to GND” under CON- DITIONS REQUIRED TO KEEP RUNNING need the oil pressure switch to be closed to ground when running. If the voltage on the LOL/LOP SW pin of the control does not go to near zero, the switch is not closing. These switches sometimes stick open if the generator has not been used or exercised often enough. Multiple start/stop cycles and/or tapping on the oil pressure switch will sometimes fix it. It may be neces- sary to temporarily jumper the switch to ground to keep the engine running. This can be done at the switch or at the OIL LOL/LOP SW pin on the control board. Models showing “LOP Open” under CONDITIONS REQUIRED TO KEEP RUNNING have electronic governors and require the low oil pressure switch to be closed at starting but open during running. When the switch opens, the governor module places a ground on the oil pressure input of the control board (P1-5). It is OK to temporarily ground P1-5 on this model to keep the engine running. NOTE: See chart for oil pressure and oil level switch locations. C. If there is AC voltage present on B1-B2 or L1 AC, as applicable, and the correct oil pressure/level signal is present at the OIL LOL/LOP SW input of the control board, and the engine will not keep running, the control board is defective. 1. After the engine has been running for a few minutes, the electric choke heater should begin to open the choke. The choke will take longer to open fully in cold weather. If the choke does not open, it is either stuck or the choke heater is not working. The choke mechanism can be freed up and maintained with “Mouse Milk”, a high tempera- ture penetrating lubricant. 2. If the engine surges or “hunts” (does not stay at a constant RPM), the cause is likely a gummed-up carburetor or an improperly adjusted governor. These conditions should be corrected. If your multi-meter has a “frequency” or a “Hz” range, you can check the RPM by measuring the frequency of the 120 VAC at the outlet. It should be approx- imately 62 Hz at no load and not go below 58 Hz at full load. 4 RV GENERATOR FAQs The following FAQ’s apply primarily to Onan generators installed on many RV’s, but due to their general nature, may apply equally well to other makes. The information below is intended to help you get the best satisfaction from your RV genset and to enable you to find and correct some of the more common problems. Certain models are not covered because of their complexity and the need for specialized servicing tools. These include: Quiet Diesel Models HDKAJ, HDKAK and HDKAT; Microlite Model KY Spec. J and later; Camp Power Model KYD; Mobile Genset Models HG- JAB and HGJAC. Refer complex servicing to a qualified generator service facility. Q. When the start switch is pressed in the coach or at the generator, nothing happens. What could be the problem? A. The coach battery could be completely discharged or there could be a problem with a battery cable, the control board or the wiring. If the coach interior lights will not work, the problem is likely the coach battery. Check the battery and control fuse first. If the lights work, use the Troubleshooting Guide to isolate the problem. Q. When the generator start switch is pressed, the starter makes a clicking sound but the engine does not crank. What is the problem? A. Most likely, the coach battery is almost completely discharged and needs to be charged or replaced. There could also be a poor connection or a defective battery cable or starter solenoid. If these causes can be eliminated, then the starter itself may need service. Q. Why does my generator crank over normally but not start? A. The problem is either fuel or ignition related. If the engine tries to run when a small amount of starting fluid is sprayed into the air intake, it is a fuel problem. The ignition can be checked by removing and grounding a spark plug. Refer to the “Getting the Engine Running” section of the Troubleshooting Guide to isolate the problem. Q. Why does my generator start and then shut down as soon as the start switch is released? A. Most models require both oil pressure and AC voltage from the generator to keep running. A lack of AC voltage can be caused by a variety of problems involving the control board, regulator, generator and wiring. A stuck oil pressure switch can also cause this symptom. The interaction between the various components of the system can be confusing during troubleshooting. Use the Troubleshooting Guide to isolate the problem. Q. The start switch works at the generator but not from inside of the coach. What is the problem? A. The remote start/stop control is not connected to the control board. Make sure the remote connector is plugged in to the control at the generator. Check remote switch and wiring. Q. The start switch works from inside of the coach but not at the generator. What is the problem? A. The start switch on the control board or control panel is defective. Replace the switch or control board, as appli- cable. Q. Why does my generator run rough and/or smoke, even after it is warmed up? A. This can be caused by the electric automatic choke not opening (choke stuck or choke heater not working), an improperly adjusted carburetor (too rich), or a sticking carburetor float that allows excess fuel to enter the carburetor bowl. Rough running can also be caused by fouled spark plugs. 5 Q. Why does the generator RPM surge up and down and not stay at a constant speed? A. Surging is caused by a gummed-up or improperly adjusted carburetor or an improperly adjusted governor. Q. My generator starts OK, runs for a while and then shuts down. Sometimes, it can be re-started after cooling for a few minutes. What causes this? A. The most likely cause is fuel starvation. This can be caused by low fuel level (not getting gas), vapor lock (too hot, gas is boiling), fuel contamination (water or dirt in fuel and/or filter) or a faulty fuel pump (insufficient fuel pressure). Models equipped with low oil level (LOL) switches will shut down the engine on low oil level. Q. What can I do to prevent fuel from deteriorating and causing problems during periods of non use? A. Regular exercise is a big help, but a fuel stabilizer such as “STA-BIL” should be added to the fuel at the start of the storage period. Follow the manufacturer’s recommendations and remember to run the generator long enough to get the treated fuel into the system. Q. My generator was running great at the end of last season but now it has problems. What could be the cause or causes? A. The generator was likely not exercised often enough or at all during the last period of non-use. A stabilizing addi- tive may not have been added to the fuel (see Q & A above). There could be latent corrosion damage from road chemi- cals or wiring damage from rodents. The problem could be simply a stuck oil pressure switch. The problems expe- rienced could be for a variety of causes. Generators need regular use or exercise in order to remain trouble-free. See next Q&A below and also “Troubleshooting”. Q. How often should an RV generator be exercised and what is the procedure? A. All RV generators should be exercised at least once per month during periods of non-use. Make sure external AC power is disconnected from the coach and the coach battery is charged. Start the generator and wait a couple of min- utes for warm-up, longer in very cold weather. Load the generator by plugging in a ceramic-type portable electric heater (approx. 1KW). When the outside temperature is above 65F, use the roof air conditioner to load the generator. Allow the generator to run under load for 20-25 minutes. Remove the load and run for another 2-3 minutes as a cool down period, then shut down. Q. The voltage at the AC outlet is too high (above 125 VAC at no load) on start up, or gradually climbs after the gen- erator has been running for a while. What causes this? A. If the voltage is somewhat high or climbs, the regulator is defective and needs to be replaced. If the voltage imme- diately goes to 160 VAC on start-up, the problem is either the regulator or a loose connection at pin 2 of the regulator. Check connections before replacing the regulator. Q. The voltage at the AC outlet is too low (below 112 VAC at no load) or goes down more than a few volts when a load is added. What causes this? A. First, make sure that the generator is running at rated speed. This can be done with a multi-meter that has a “fre- quency” or a “Hz” range. Make sure the slip rings are clean. Check the connections between pins 4 and 5 (or pins 1 and 5 on Microlite 2.8KW) on the regulator, as this can cause an output voltage of 55-60 VAC, even with a good regulator. When these causes have been eliminated, the regulator is likely defective. 6 Q. With the generator running, there is no 120 VAC at any of the outlets. What is the problem? A. The AC circuit breaker(s) at the generator may be turned off or tripped. Check the breaker(s) first. Make sure that there is 120 VAC at the generator (L1-L2 on the terminal block or pins 2-3 on the regulator plug). If the circuit breaker is on, there is 120 VAC at the generator and there is still no voltage at the outlets, the problem could be a faulty transfer relay. This device is located in the coach and is not part of the generator. Its job is to switch the AC load from the com- mercial power to the generator when it is running. Q. What are slip rings, where are they located and what is their function? A. Slip rings are two flat metal rings located side by side on the rear of the rotor (end away from the engine) that pro- vide a means of contact for the brushes. The brushes run against the slip rings and carry the current (field current) required for magnetizing the rotor. Q. Why do the generator’s slip rings require cleaning periodically? A. During periods of storage and a lack of regular exercise, RV generator slip rings can become corroded, particularly in areas near salt water. Even with regular running, a layer of oxide and brush residue can build up on the rings, in- creasing their electrical resistance. Proper cleaning (such as with the Slick Stick Slip Ring Cleaning Tool, available from Flight Systems) restores the running surface to like-new condition. This results in cooler running as well as ex- tended brush and regulator life. Dirty slip rings can cause overheating and premature regulator failure. Q. How can I determine if the slip rings need to be cleaned? A. A quick visual inspection can be done by looking through the cooling slots at the rear of the generator with a bright light. The slip rings should appear as shiny clean metal. You can also unplug the regulator and measure the resistance between pins 9 and 10 of the plug that was connected to the regulator. If this reading is greater than 28 ohms, cleaning is needed. Q. Is there a place where I can easily check for the proper voltages when the generator is running? A. Yes. The 120 VAC and/or 60 Hz frequency can be checked between pins 2 and 3 of the regulator or at any outlet, and should be between 117 and 126 VAC at no load. The field voltage can be checked between pins 9 and 10 of the regulator and should be 35-40 volts at no load and rise to about 60 volts at full load. 7 8 9 10 11 300-2784/2943 (FLIGHT SYSTEMS REPLACEMENT) 12 13 14 15 16
  2. So I went to a service document from Flight Systems and the apparently the Escapees site will not let me copy and paste. Or where i am getting the info will not let me copy and paste. Send me a private message with a email and I will send you the info Vern in a T-shirt
  3. I would suggest contacting this company. I have been to there business many years ago. Well I cannot copy and paste there site. It is Flight Systems. Search them on the net. Ask for tech support and they should be able to help you. I may have Onan service manuals. Later this morning I will see if my tech manual has a wiring diagram. Vern in a T-shirt
  4. Wrknrvr

    Dash Cam wiring

    If your cam is on 24/7. You could catch a actor that was not supposed to be near your truck. I would take power off the cb wires and fuse them. Then let it on. Just thinking , Vern
  5. I have been thinking about going back to tying flies for trout fishing. But the rivers in Montana are closed to fishing or only allowed in the am. So I will leave the fishing subject rest. Till later in the fall and we get more rain. So the paper patching subject has really been irritating at the least. With reading and thinking about this subject. I have been doing other things in life. Yesterday I wanted to do so cleaning of old lead for bullet casting. I have found a new way to purify lead. With the help of the internet I discovered saw dust will do the job. So I tried it with sorta good success. Then put the casting stuff away. Set the rifle up on the bum cart rifle rest. Decided to study the scope only at a long distance. Only focusing on 200 yards or more. Even out to 1000 yards. My right eye will focus really good at those distances. Using two eyes with the scope is still sorta on hold. So took the barrels off the stock. Set it on the bench rest. Got about 30 rounds of ammo that is loaded with paper patched bullets. Now the last time at the range the first couple shots worked really good. Then I got the idea to put bullet lube on the outside of the paper patch on the bullet. What a lesson on what not to do. Do not lay greased bullets on anything, it may just pick up debris. Grease and a spec of stuff may just make the paper patched paper to wrinkle as rubs the rifling and not leave the bullet chamber properly. No swearing aloud. Now I have never used a paper patched bullet until this project was at the test bench. So while I was cleaning the bullets of grease and cleaning the chamber also of grease I thought of trying to chamber the clean bullets. Now I have read about not reworking the brass as it works best after fire formed. So I have not used anything to reshape the used brass. For paper patching bullets you need to have the bullet slip into the case. No crimping used. Next lesson learned, spent brass is to be handled with extreme care. 1/3 of the brass would not chamber because of my mishandling of the spent brass. So I used the depriming tool without the depriming part. Just pushed it over the loaded case by hand to shape the bullet case to true roundness. At least enough to chamber the round. Set up my press to correct all my loaded rounds. They now all chamber easily. With not bothering the paper patching. As said in the beginning of the adventure I never used this type of bullets. Nor have I talked to anybody about this subject. Tuesday is my next time at the range. But at 7 am I will be getting a tooth filled. So by noon I hope to be at the range again and feeling good to do some testing. Do I take my helper along, or not. Stay safe, Vern
  6. What model water heater do you have. some Dometic heaters have 12 vdc control relay on the back side of the unit. That relay controls the 110 vac. Or you could install one of those relays to do the job. Vern
  7. So photo was supposed to appear in the previous post
  8. So this tool was designed for another project. But I figured out how to repurpose the same tool to load a paper patched bullet in a muzzleloader. It makes getting a paper patched bullet started much better than by hand. On some muzzleloaders that are used for bench-rest target rifles use a pined tool that fits the end of the barrel, to start there bullets. The name of such tool in hiding in my brain at this moment. That part is called a false muzzle Now making this tool has given more thoughts on loading a single shot cartridge rifle. Have a good day, Vern ]https://i.imgur.com/17tZrnQl.jpg So so you can see the 45/70 cartridge case has had the primer end drilled out. Then the paper patched bullet can be push into the barrel with ease and much better control of The loading process. More thing, Vern
  9. So I am still thinking this adventure out some. But I ran into a dilemma. I cannot figure out how to load this cartridge. Makes me think I mite be falling off my rocker. I did get some white backer for targets. I also figured out the scope tube works at longer ranges . Just not at 80 or 100 yards distance. My eye will focus at long distance, just not at shorter distances. Been doing other interesting things things. Stay Safe, Vern on a side note? That cartridge has a real purpose. Just want you to think about it.
  10. Well finally get time on shooting bench. But I can tell my helper is already bored. She went for another walk. So today I am going to try a new 45/70 bullet, paper patched in the muzzleloader. Helper is back. Shoot three rounds, All bullets went straight through the target. Helper is borrrrrred. We must leave. But today I did learn the bullet goes where it is supposed to. Last tine out when the old bullet hit wood sideways you could hear it hit. Things need to do before the next time at the range. 1 leave before helper gets up 2 learn to load paper patched bullet calmly. I tore the paper on one round Sunday. 3 Practice the two eyes open when shooting with the scope. On a side note, I have made two 54 caliber bullet molds for another project this fall. I am also wanting to make a furnace for melting German silver for casting gun parts. Stay safe, Vern
  11. So I have occasionally been doing shooting stuff. Really could be called stuff. More stuff doesn’t work compared to what works. But it makes it interesting. I had a thought about just buying a manufactured rifle. But that would take most of the fun away. So I did get 20 rounds of 45/70 loaded, with 50 grains of black powder and a paper patched bullet. Also loaded 20 rounds with 60 grains powder and the same style bullet. So most of the smoke has cleared so it is much nicer to be outside very long. It has been smoky for 8 weeks or more from the forest fires in the northwest. So finally at the range Sunday afternoon. Just the 80 yard range. Set the table rest up and all staff out. Put two targets on the bank. Loaded a round and squeezed first round off. 3”” high but on center. Fired another round. Too the right 3””. Go to load the next round, bullet will not chamber. .??? Look at bullet!,!!!!!!!! The paper patching has caught the rifling. So chamber the next round and squeeze it off. While looking through a spotting scope I see all the bullets went through the target straight on. So I fired one more round off. I walked down to the target and all rounds fired went straight through the target. No bullets went through sideways. When I first shot this rifle with 45 colt pistol bullets loaded in a 45/70 case, it did look like buckshot pattern. They went in all directions So it seems like I have a good bullet design and swaged to a smooth proper diameter. So after cleaning the barrel again I chamber another round sorta. Hard to get the cartridge in. Use a ramrod to push cartridge back out. Yep, paper patching wrinkled back. This subject needs some attention. Load another round. Now I feel better about shooting so calm down and now I need to figure out the scope idea. I d did say it was a idea. I have not really shot any rifle with a scope since about 1973. I always shot a scope gun with one eye. It worked back then. But not so now. I did say the scope was a good idea. How I built it may need practice with or maybe modify it. With one eye I loose some focus when I am taking my time to rest, relax and squeeze the trigger slowly. But with both eyes open I can see better. It seems to be confusing to my mind with the left eye seeing the scope mount sticking just to the right of my vision in the left eye. Will take a picture today and post it about the scope mounting. Note to self, the helper is bored. She went for a walk. I do need to address the paper patching hanging up on the rifling. Also the scope seeing problem needs to be understood. I take a look at it today and try and get a urea what to do. The muzzleloader guy now wants the bench for practice , so till next time. Vern
  12. Are you talking about the cam sensor. I had one fail a few years ago while on a trip from Arizona to Pennsylvania. It was short on power when we left on the trip. But I was trying to outrun a wind storm. I had one with me so I changed it in Dodge city Kansas. It’s been running great since then. We have Cummins n14 Hope these thoughts help. Vern
  13. Looking real good so far on your build Rick. I have been watching what you are doing. One thing I was thinking about was dirt and mud getting on top of your tool box behind the rear tires. I thought of that when I built our bed so the debris would not run down on a nice paint job. Now would be a good time to put a mud flap from the front of the box up to ride under the top of the bed. Just thinking Vern
  14. So I was thinking about the tree or the car. Well the sheet metal on the car look in really good shape. But I would say the tree is a must save. So there has to be a seam on the vehicle where sheet metal was put together. Split two seams or make two cuts where it could be rejoined during restoration. Then remove the rest of the sheet metal body. Then remove which ever axle is easier and all cross members. And anything that could keep from sliding the frame off. Then the tree is still there. And the car could be restored. Noticed how good the sheet metal looks. Just thing Vern in a T-shirt
  15. Will it move in the other direction with the controls. If so will it go out to the same place. If that is the situation then it must be jamming on something. Look at what make the pump assembly is. Then utube it to see how to operate it. It most likely reverses the pump direction to move in and out. Just thinking, Vern in a T-shirt
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