trimster Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 Anyone add seat belts to the dinette table seating ? If so, can you share how you did it? Photos? Thanks. Bob Quote Robert & Lisa '14 Keystone Fuzion 315 38' 5er 2015 Volvo VNL 670, D13, iShift 'The Tartis' (ours) 2013 Smart Fortwo Passion 'K-9' 2011 CanAm Spyder RT Limited (Ours) We are both USAF vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve from SoCal Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 Bob, I don't think there is any seat belt system that is designed or approved for side ways seating. It may not be what you want to hear but, having people seated sideways while in transit is just plain unsafe. High G acceleration in that axis is not tolerated well by the human body. Steve Quote 2005 Peterbilt 387-112 Baby Cat 9 speed U-shift 1996/2016 remod Teton Royal Atlanta 1996 Kentucky 48 single drop stacker garage project Pulls like a train, sounds like a plane....faster than a Cheetah sniffin cocaine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimster Posted September 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 Understand fully. But something is better than nothing. Limos and party busses have sideways seating with lap belts. Maybe the booze consumption by the passengers mitigates things ;0 But keeping someone from flying around inside the cab might be a good compromise. Just thinking out loud. Bob Quote Robert & Lisa '14 Keystone Fuzion 315 38' 5er 2015 Volvo VNL 670, D13, iShift 'The Tartis' (ours) 2013 Smart Fortwo Passion 'K-9' 2011 CanAm Spyder RT Limited (Ours) We are both USAF vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkoenig24 Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 My Super-C Dynamax had THREE (out of seven) seatbelts that were mounted "sideways". I've seen sideways mounting in other RVs as well. You need to get the mounting hardware WELL secured so, that in the event of a head on crash, the mounts do NOT pull out. I expect there are Federal safety standards that apply to mounting hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickS Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 I installed airline L-track to the back of bench and purchased 4x L-track seat belts. Quote Rick & Carey,Excel W41GKE Wild Cargo Toyhauler Volvo 730, D13, I-shift, 500/1850Brabus Smart Car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandsys Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 My van had three sideways seat belts that didn't look like they had done anything extraordinary to mount them. Linda Quote Blog: http://sandcastle.sandsys.org/ Former Rigs: Liesure Travel van, Winnebago View 24H, Winnebago Journey 34Y, Sportsmobile Sprinter conversion van Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrformance Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) Cars get hit t-bone style, the seat belts do not tear out of the floor just because the body is being forced sideways from the force of the impact. Just because its on the interwebs............. I would mount the shoulder belts toward the windshield if mounting in the sideways configuration. Edited September 9, 2020 by Parrformance added a thought Quote 2006 Volvo VNL 780, " Arvey" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 2010 Forest River Coachman Freedom Express 280RLS Jackalopee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) The bases of the seats in my 780 are plastic. You would need a piece of metal long and wide under the seat to spread out the forces over a large area. When I considered doing this, I thought about having not only the metal under the seat but also clippable cables or straps of sufficient strength that traversed the storage compartments and went through the cab floor where a large flat washer could be used to spread the load on the bottom of the cab metal. I abandoned the idea based on what Steve said. RVs may do it but it doesn’t mean it is safe. But a cargo net keeping someone sleeping in the bunk is not the safest option either. Parrformance makes a good point but for discussion sake the likelihood of a t-bone would be far less in our rigs than a car. I would think the majority of semi crashes are head on or close to head on. My opinion only cause Parr is a really smart man. Are your passengers going to be adults or children? Edited September 9, 2020 by SuiteSuccess Quote 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimster Posted September 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 Both kids & adults. Quote Robert & Lisa '14 Keystone Fuzion 315 38' 5er 2015 Volvo VNL 670, D13, iShift 'The Tartis' (ours) 2013 Smart Fortwo Passion 'K-9' 2011 CanAm Spyder RT Limited (Ours) We are both USAF vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrformance Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 Exactly Suite, a crash in an HDT, is likely to be the truck rear ending or t-boning something else. So the seat belts, if installed safely, will stop the rear passengers from illegally lane splitting and passing the driver in case of an incident. This goes for our furbabies as well. Quote 2006 Volvo VNL 780, " Arvey" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 2010 Forest River Coachman Freedom Express 280RLS Jackalopee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimster Posted January 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) Worked out a seat belt install that I think will suffice. I bought the longest generic seatbelts I could find... https://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Point-Non-Retractable-Lap-Seat-Belt-Universal-Fit-Seatbelt-Select-Color-60/262512326086?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 But i now find 72" versions.. but those would still not be long enough. It would eliminate the need for the lap belt extensions however.. Even they were too short to fit around anyone setting at the table when bolted directly the cab floor under the seating area. So I got 1/2" x 12" eyebolts to extend the the belt mounting point, up. The load on these is vertical. Big fender washers on the underside of the cab floor. I cut slots in the boards that create the bench seats to put the belts through. Bolted them to the eyebolts... (3600 lb sheer, 1800 lb load strength) Now they are long enough to comfortably strap in an 'average girth' person. If you have had a few to many beers (if that is possible when working on our trucks), you will need a 9" or 10" lap belt extender to help circumnavigate the average American old-guy. Probably not ideal, but so much better than not having them at all. Edited January 23, 2021 by trimster Quote Robert & Lisa '14 Keystone Fuzion 315 38' 5er 2015 Volvo VNL 670, D13, iShift 'The Tartis' (ours) 2013 Smart Fortwo Passion 'K-9' 2011 CanAm Spyder RT Limited (Ours) We are both USAF vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpsinc Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 31 minutes ago, trimster said: the average American old-guy I resemble that remark. LOL Quote Marcel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 Nice job. Quote 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyates007 Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 Look good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usbusin Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 Looking good, Bob. Just remember to protect the belt at the wear points going through the floor. Quote 2001 Freightliner FL70, Cat 3126b 300hp, 860 lb/ft, 6 speed manual Eaton/Fuller Motorhome body by Transport Designs (37 ft overall) Motorhome Specs and Pictures Our Music Ministry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandsys Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 2 hours ago, usbusin said: Looking good, Bob. Just remember to protect the belt at the wear points going through the floor. When i saw that picture of the belt going through the floor I immediately wanted to add rubber gaskets around the edges of the holes. Linda Sand Quote Blog: http://sandcastle.sandsys.org/ Former Rigs: Liesure Travel van, Winnebago View 24H, Winnebago Journey 34Y, Sportsmobile Sprinter conversion van Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimster Posted January 23, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 Ya, looking for something that will work. The wood has been sanded smooth with the edges rounded. It's smooth right now. Quote Robert & Lisa '14 Keystone Fuzion 315 38' 5er 2015 Volvo VNL 670, D13, iShift 'The Tartis' (ours) 2013 Smart Fortwo Passion 'K-9' 2011 CanAm Spyder RT Limited (Ours) We are both USAF vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpsinc Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, trimster said: Ya, looking for something that will work. The wood has been sanded smooth with the edges rounded. It's smooth right now. If you have room perhaps use some rubber hose, slit it and wrap it around your opening. Some Liquid Nails if its a bit loose, but the rubber on the wood should stay put pertty good. Quote Marcel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted January 23, 2021 Report Share Posted January 23, 2021 We used this company for products back when I was build boats. https://www.ssicustomplastics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/SSI-2019-Product-Catalog.pdf Look for Chaffing rings, or any shape that would work. Or just do an internet search for Chaffing Rings, West Marine Products may have something as well. Quote Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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