HighwayRanger Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 Greetings, I have a question for you veteran RVers out there. The other day, we decided to try to refuel our dually while we were towing our large fifth wheel (something we try hard to avoid.) So, we pull into a busy T/A truck stop on I-10 just west of I-15 in Southern California (the nearby Petro truck stop was set up the same way.) After obtaining fuel, the entire flow of big rigs was channeled through a gated parking lot where you had to take a ticket. I'm sure this was intended to generate revenue from truckers who were going to get some rest there. My question is this: should we have followed all the other lemmings through the gate, taken a ticket, then proceeded to the exit? Would we have to pay for the privilege? We ended up making a big, embarrassing u-turn, driving out through the entrance (copying the actions of one trucker.) The place was so busy that I didn't want to go inside and ask for directions. Is this a common arrangement? I have not seen this setup before. It makes us want to really avoid truck stops in the future! And, no, there were no RV lanes available. Just curious about the experiences of others. Thanks! Fulltiming since 2015, with my beautiful bride, Lori. 2015 GMC 3500HD Denali DRW CC LB TrailerSaver TS3 Hitch 2016 DRV Mobile Suites 38RSB3, MorRyde IS, MorRyde Pin Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accumack Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 I don't remember seeing that before but we use Pilot /Flying J most of the time. 2011 Berkshire 390-rb-40, upgraded tires and front axle airbags, 2012 Jeep Wrangler 2 door, Blue Ox baseplate and BlueOx aladdin tow bar, Blue Ox Patriot brake system, wiring run through right frame rail and homemade led taillight bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark and Dale Bruss Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 If you drive drive in and fuel, there is no charge on the way out. Please click for Emails instead of PM Mark & DaleJoey - 2016 Bounder 33C Tige - 2006 40' Travel SupremeSparky III - 2021 Mustang Mach-e, off the the Road since 2019 Useful HDT Truck, Trailer, and Full-timing Info atwww.dmbruss.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSeas Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 That TA truck stop is one of the few that "charges" for trucks to park overnight. The "parking" fee is waived if you buy xx amount of fuel or spend xx amount in the store/ restaurant or buy truck services like an oil change. The normal procedure is you get a "ticket" when you enter and return the "ticket" with your receipts when you depart. If you don't buy anything they charge you for parking. Think of it like a "parking" garage where you get the "ticket" when you enter and pay when you exit. This particular TA is very busy 24/7 and is usually always full. Entry and exit are a bit challenging and it's sometimes hard to follow the correct traffic flow. TA has a few of these "pay lots" in their system. They also do not have a dedicated RV lane(s) so just get in line with the big guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIBERNUT Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 ..................and if you park with the big guys, be SURE to do a test pull before you leave or put a lock on your pin. Some people just suck, they can't help themselves. 2000 Volvo 635 A/S, N-14 Cummins"The Phoenix"'03 KA 38KSWB http://s918.photobucket.com/user/sibernut/library/?sort=6&page=1Furkids- Sibe's CH. Sedona & Tseika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaH Posted December 12, 2015 Report Share Posted December 12, 2015 SIBERNUT, on 12 Dec 2015 - 12:17 PM, said:..................and if you park with the big guys, be SURE to do a test pull before you leave or put a lock on your pin. Some people just suck, they can't help themselves. Good advice anytime you park and leave your rig hooked up, not just at truck stops. LindaH 2014 Winnebago Aspect 27K 2011 Kia Soul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighwayRanger Posted December 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Okay, got it, thanks! Roy Fulltiming since 2015, with my beautiful bride, Lori. 2015 GMC 3500HD Denali DRW CC LB TrailerSaver TS3 Hitch 2016 DRV Mobile Suites 38RSB3, MorRyde IS, MorRyde Pin Box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydrvr Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 Apparently, you were in Ontario. Yes, those are pay lots, but there's typically a two hour "free" window for food, restroom, etc. It's helpful to get a ticket and go through to avoid the congestion and aggravation going the wrong way will invariably cause. It's really easy and painless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Britcon Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 I can understand your confusion. We have fuelled at Truck Stops across the country and I have never encountered this setup. Don't be afraid to use the truck pumps - so much easier if you have a long rig. You might want to apply for a Flying J / pilot card as this lets you start the pumps at the island, and gives a decent discount on fuel as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaHybrid Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 One thing I will add although I'm sure everyone here already knows it. When you finish filling, pull forward to allow the next truck waiting to get in and start fueling up. Those folks work for a living and don't like us sitting in a fueling lane while going inside to pee, eat, shop or anything else. It makes no difference if you are driving a pickup or a Freightliner like we are, they will get a little ill. They also get mad at other semi drivers as well but tend to go overboard with us. They understand the reasons why I'm there (pumping 150 gallons or better at the auto pumps takes WAY to long....) but I do try to be considerate and not hold them up. 2017 Kenworth T6802015 DRV 38RSSA Elite Suites2016 Smart Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronbo Posted December 13, 2015 Report Share Posted December 13, 2015 I had a. Ice conversation with a couple on i10 just before entering California. One even took a picture of my rig. Ron C. 2013 Dynamax Trilogy 3850 D3 2000 Kenworth T2000 Optimus Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnandmichele Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 I too was having difficulty this summer with getting fuel at a couple of truck stops. One was a Speedway and not sure the other name, but I pulled up to the pumps for trucks and had to go into activate pump and they asked if I had an account, said no I just need fuel, they stated that the pumps were commercial accounts only and that I had to use the diesel pump at the auto island. There was no way that I could make the turns at the auto island with a 36' fifth wheel. Is this typical? 2009 Carriage Cameo 1961 Ford Econoline Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIBERNUT Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 The state you were in may tax RV fuel differently than commercial. Check the thread on penalties in Indiana (I think). 2000 Volvo 635 A/S, N-14 Cummins"The Phoenix"'03 KA 38KSWB http://s918.photobucket.com/user/sibernut/library/?sort=6&page=1Furkids- Sibe's CH. Sedona & Tseika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydrvr Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 The state with SERIOUS penalties would be Arizona... They don't mess around.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Greg Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 If your truck has the capacity I would suggest an auxiliary fuel tank in the bed. I hate navigating in busy fuel stations when towing so carry an extra diesel tank (70 gallons) and tool box combo which allows me to travel 3 days before filling up. We disconnect and use GasBuddy to find local stations. You will never recoup the cost of the auxiliary tank but your stress level will go down. Greg Greg & Judy Bahnmiller Class of 2007 2014 F350 2007 HitchHiker Champagne Both sold 2/19, settled in Foley, AL after 12 years on the road http://bahnmilleradventure.blogspot.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Joyce Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 The state with SERIOUS penalties would be Arizona... They don't mess around.. http://rvdailyreport.com/owner/arizona-clarifies-diesel-fuel-tax-for-rv-use/ - as long as your RV is non-commercial, you are exempt in Arizona even if over 26,000 lbs. I do want to point out that they specifically mention that if the RV is owned by an LLC, it is treated as commercial and needs to pay the higher tax. 2004 40' Newmar Dutch Star DP towing an AWD 2020 Ford Escape Hybrid, Fulltimer July 2003 to October 2018, Parttimer now. Travels through much of 2013 - http://www.sacnoth.com - Bill, Diane and Evita (the cat) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted December 14, 2015 Report Share Posted December 14, 2015 I still would not do it. There is too much question on logistics, etc. Plus fighting a fine is never a winning proposition. I'd pay the extra, as the article recommends. I don't have any choice, in my case, anyway. Jack & Danielle Mayer #60376 Lifetime Member Living on the road since 2000PLEASE no PM's. Email me. jackdanmayer AT gmail 2016 DRV Houston 44' 5er (we still have it) 2022 New Horizons 43' 5er 2016 Itasca 27N 28' motorhome 2019 Volvo 860, D13 455/1850, 236" wb, I-Shift, battery-based APU No truck at the moment - we use one of our demo units 2016 smart Passion, piggyback on the truck -------------------------------------------------------------------------See our website for info on New Horizons 5th wheels, HDTs as tow vehicles, communications on the road, and use of solar powerwww.jackdanmayer.com Principal in RVH Lifestyles. RVH-Lifestyles.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray,IN Posted December 15, 2015 Report Share Posted December 15, 2015 I still would not do it. There is too much question on logistics, etc. Plus fighting a fine is never a winning proposition. I'd pay the extra, as the article recommends. I don't have any choice, in my case, anyway. I agree! I never got the fact a person would buy a $300,000 RV then try to save money by only filling at the cheapest place. I know PFJ is not the cheapest fuel point, but the convenience and easy access to the RV pump wins. 2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD, ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA ." And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy 20 Jan 1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarvan Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 The only problem I have with the big rig pumps is the fact that there's so much fuel coming out of the nozzle that if you lock it open until it's forced to click off you WILL spill fuel. Have to be very careful. Previously a 2017 Forest River, Berkshire 38A, "The Dragonship". https://dragonship.blog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaHybrid Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 oscarvan, I fill my HDT (Freightliner) up at the truck pumps and it is not a problem with it as I will often put another 20 or 30 gallons in after the pump clicks off. I also fill my LGT (Ford F350) up at those same pumps to save time but you do need to make sure the nozzle is in as deep as it can go into your fill neck and even then, I stand there and listen to the sound. After a bit, you can tell when to stop the fuel flow before you get splashed by the sound. 2017 Kenworth T6802015 DRV 38RSSA Elite Suites2016 Smart Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarvan Posted December 18, 2015 Report Share Posted December 18, 2015 Like I said, pay attention. The wide nozzles don't go in very far on my Chevvy. (Shhhhhhhh) Previously a 2017 Forest River, Berkshire 38A, "The Dragonship". https://dragonship.blog/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimalberta Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 I agree! I never got the fact a person would buy a $300,000 RV then try to save money by only filling at the cheapest place. I know PFJ is not the cheapest fuel point, but the convenience and easy access to the RV pump wins. Seriously? If i'm about to buy 150 gallons of fuel you will be sure that I shop around. 150 gallons at 20cents is $30. I'm not rich enough to just squander my hard earned $$ ......that 20 cents is the difference between Arco and the Pilot at Quartzsite. <p>....JIM and LINDA......2001 American Eagle 40 '.towing a GMC Sierra 1500 4X4 with RZR in the rear. 1999 JEEP Cherokee that we tow as well. IT IS A CONTENTED MAN WHO CAN APPRECIATE THE SCENERY ALONG A DETOUR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaHybrid Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 The Pilot stores in this area are at $2.39 a gallon. The Mapco truck stop I fill up at was at $1.89 this afternoon.... For a 140 gallon fill up, that's a $70 difference. I still have my truck lanes but not the showers, laundry and sit down eating that I don't need.... 2017 Kenworth T6802015 DRV 38RSSA Elite Suites2016 Smart Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1rstreamer Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 Use the "Gas Buddy" app to locate the least expensive fuel. There are no brownie points to be gained by paying more for fuel. Flying J is RV friendly, while the other truck stops don't really cater to RV'ers. You will be paying more for fuel at truck stops. I sometimes overnight at a truck stop but I never leave the rig alone, and I'm back on the road at the crack of dawn. Trailer = 1987 Airstream Excella 32' Truck = 1999 Dodge Ram 2500 Diesel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted December 19, 2015 Report Share Posted December 19, 2015 We fill up the Volvo when unhooked. Found $2.01 at a Murphy recently. Sometimes the pumps are fast, sometimes you can get your chair out and have a seat. We usually fill up when we need 175gal or so. 3-4 cents makes a difference when you buy that much at one time. Back in the day of driving the dually. We would pull into the big truck lanes, Alie would go in the store and give them the card or cash so they would start the pump, I fueled up and moved to the parking area and went inside to wash up, etc. Alie would have paid by then and then we did whatever shopping. Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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