lappir Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 Over the last few weeks I have arrived back home to see my computer with the screen saver on. Sounds normal right. What if you can swear you turned the computer off when you left to go to work. At first I thought I didn't actually wait for it to completely shut down before disconnecting my phone and that was the cause. Nope, it does not do it every day, but enough that I started to turn off the electric power strip when I leave. I have carted the computer to my Mom's for this weekend and it happened again. She say's she didn't touch it. At home there was no one there except a cat, but he's back at his usual home now. Do I need to unplug my PC now when ever I am not using it? Is there a way to check a log of time when the computer has been "ON"?/"OFF"? I have an older "All in One" Lenovo. Is it time to replace? Rod Quote White 2000/2010Volvo VNL 770 with 7' Drom box with opposing doors, JOST slider hitch. 600 HP Cummins Signature 18 Speed three pedal auto shift. 1999 Isuzu VehiCross retired to a sticks and bricks garage. Brought out of storage the summer of 2022 2022 Jeep Wrangler Sport S Two door hard top. 2007 Honda GL 1800 2013 Space Craft Mfg S420 Custom built Toyhauler The Gold Volvo is still running and being emptied in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamMedevac 70 Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) I also have an older Lenovo laptop that works great majority of time. However on infrequent occasions it will just shut down or restart when I am not around or using it and with no programs such as video running. This is inconvenient and mysterious as I sometimes loose my many tabs in some browsers. I have good anti malware and anti virus installed such as Malware Bytes. NOW I log off the internet when not using the laptop to see if this stops the shut downs. I suspect a long running scan with anti virus such as Malicious Software removal (MRT) may cause this but just a guess. Edited January 18, 2021 by NamMedevac 70 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydrvr Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 26 minutes ago, NamMedevac 70 said: I also have an older Lenovo laptop that works great majority of time. However on infrequent occasions it will just shut down or restart when I am not around or using it and with no programs such as video running. This is inconvenient and mysterious as I sometimes loose my many tabs in some browsers. I have good anti malware and anti virus installed such as Malware Bytes. NOW I log off the internet when not using the laptop to see if this stops the shut downs. I suspect a long running scan with anti virus such as Malicious Software removal (MRT) may cause this but just a guess. If you're running a newer OS, like Windows 10, often they continue to operate in the background even though they're "off". Mine reboots regularly, but then I use hibernate mostly. Updates are usually the cause of a restart. I have my browser set to reopen with last used tabs, so I don't lose those tabs. I generally have 20-30 tabs open all the time. If you're on Chrome, you can go to history and reopen those tabs. Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Joyce Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 Maybe your computer is set to sleep or hibernate instead of turn off when you use OFF and something is making it come back on. Go to Settings->System->Power & Sleep and select "Additional Power Settings" on the far right. Then "Choose what the power buttons do". Quote 2004 40' Newmar Dutch Star DP towing an AWD 2020 Ford Escape Hybrid, Fulltimer July 2003 to October 2018, Parttimer now. Travels through much of 2013 - http://www.sacnoth.com - Bill, Diane and Evita (the cat) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will B. Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 There's also something called "wake on lan". Where a command, over the network, can turn it on. Quote 2018 Grand Design Momentum 399TH • 2019 Ford F-350 (DRW) 2016 Harley-Davidson Heritage • 2013 Harley Sportster with a sidecar Web: https://MyRVRadio.com • Facebook: https://fb.com/MyRVRadio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LindaH Posted January 18, 2021 Report Share Posted January 18, 2021 I always use the "Power" / "Shut Down" buttons on the Start Menu to shut off my computer and have never had it turn back on again all by itself. I rarely use the "Sleep" button unless I'm going to come back to finish up work in a short amount of time and I want to leave some windows open. Even then, I've never had a computer turn back on all by itself. Quote LindaH 2014 Winnebago Aspect 27K 2011 Kia Soul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lappir Posted January 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 I'm not on a LAN, there is no internet available if my phone is not connected (that I can see anyway). I do not connect with any local WiFi in the area and see no open ones to connect with at all. It's a first for me. I always use Shut down and never choose the Update and shutdown unless I will be there to check and see if the computer light goes off completely and it has recently only to be back on when I get home 12 hours+ later. Thanks to all who replied. Rod Quote White 2000/2010Volvo VNL 770 with 7' Drom box with opposing doors, JOST slider hitch. 600 HP Cummins Signature 18 Speed three pedal auto shift. 1999 Isuzu VehiCross retired to a sticks and bricks garage. Brought out of storage the summer of 2022 2022 Jeep Wrangler Sport S Two door hard top. 2007 Honda GL 1800 2013 Space Craft Mfg S420 Custom built Toyhauler The Gold Volvo is still running and being emptied in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenp Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 Is there a chance you have left a program running when you "shut down"? I have had issues if I don't close all programs the computer will not shut down. It usually asks are you sure and the option to "shut down anyway" is clicked it will shut down but sometimes I am in a hurry and just close the lid after selecting shut down and I come back the next day and it is still running. Lenp Quote USN Retired 2002 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom 2012 F150 4x4 2018 Lincoln MKX 2019 HD Ultra Limited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailertraveler Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 I have noticed that our two Toshiba laptops will at times wake up and restart. I don't remember where, but I recall reading that the newer versions/updates of Windows 10 do not really completely shutdown the computer when just using the shutdown in the power popup at the bottom left of the screen. That article said that to completely shutdown, hold the shift key then click on shutdown and hold the shift key until the screen goes black. Seems to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durangodon Posted January 19, 2021 Report Share Posted January 19, 2021 It must be pretty common. https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffsb&q=windows+10+shut+down+not+turning+off&ia=web Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lappir Posted January 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 On 1/19/2021 at 7:09 AM, durangodon said: It must be pretty common. https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffsb&q=windows+10+shut+down+not+turning+off&ia=web Thanks for researching, guess I could have done a search before asking, but then I wouldn't have asked. Glad to know it wasn't just me. I will turn off the power or unplug it for sure till I am able to fix it another way. Thanks again Senior Member durangodon Quote White 2000/2010Volvo VNL 770 with 7' Drom box with opposing doors, JOST slider hitch. 600 HP Cummins Signature 18 Speed three pedal auto shift. 1999 Isuzu VehiCross retired to a sticks and bricks garage. Brought out of storage the summer of 2022 2022 Jeep Wrangler Sport S Two door hard top. 2007 Honda GL 1800 2013 Space Craft Mfg S420 Custom built Toyhauler The Gold Volvo is still running and being emptied in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durangodon Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 55 minutes ago, lappir said: Thanks for researching, guess I could have done a search before asking, but then I wouldn't have asked. Glad to know it wasn't just me. I will turn off the power or unplug it for sure till I am able to fix it another way. Thanks again Senior Member durangodon I'm glad you brought it up. I'd never heard of this problem and I'm running three machines with Win10, one of which stays on all the time. I don't like Win10's knack for updating on it's own and rebooting in the middle of the night. The reboot wakes me up. I prefer to choose when to update and when to reboot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted January 20, 2021 Report Share Posted January 20, 2021 2 hours ago, durangodon said: I'm glad you brought it up. I'd never heard of this problem and I'm running three machines with Win10, one of which stays on all the time. I don't like Win10's knack for updating on it's own and rebooting in the middle of the night. The reboot wakes me up. I prefer to choose when to update and when to reboot. Change your Internet WiFi connection settings to "Metered" and only priority updates will be installed without asking. Quote Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV_ Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 I had a computer do that ten years ago or so. I forget what it was but when it does happen go to start, settings, view update history and see if there were updates on that date. If it is Windows updates doing it you can make a note of the second Tuesday of each month and anytime after 12 noon in your time zone (Windows staggers it across the world) go ahead and manually check for and install all updates. If it still does it then you will need to do some deeper diagnostics. I always shut down my computer with the start / power / shutdown. But I did it back then as well so it is not Quote RV/Derekhttp://www.rvroadie.com Email on the bottom of my website page.Retired AF 1971-1998 When you see a worthy man, endeavor to emulate him. When you see an unworthy man, look inside yourself. - Confucius “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” ... Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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