Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 Since many of us in the HDT world have the Levithan_Holdings camera systems off of E-bay, I'm hoping that someone can tell me how hard it is to splice the wiring? I'm moving the camera's off of the Carrilite onto the DRV. On the Carrilite I drilled a 3/8" (or larger?) hole for the camera plug end to fit thru the RV siding and rear cap, but I really don't want to drill large holes in the DRV if I don't have to. The camera cable is smaller than 1/4" and the smaller the hole, the easier to seal. So my questions are- Is the camera cabling twisted pairs of wire like phone conductor or is it a coax style- sheathed with an inner core? At the WCR, Ronbo had an umbilical cable that had been cut, and it was 22 or 24 gauge wiring running thru the sheathing. Are the rest of the cables like this? Or? Jim's Adventures Old Spacecraft.... Who knows whats next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 I cut one of my cables accidentally and spliced, soldered also. Works just fine. Really insulated the wires and used foul between them. Got rather large at splice but works 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted July 21, 2017 Report Share Posted July 21, 2017 The wires are just twisted inside the sheathing. I generally cut the ends off and splice them into either cat5 or into individual lines for just the video/power. Then run them over to the truck from the trailer. No issue with soldering them. It just depends on what you want to do...... Jack & Danielle Mayer #60376 Lifetime Member Living on the road since 2000PLEASE no PM's. Email me. jackdanmayer AT gmail 2016 DRV Houston 44' 5er (we still have it) 2022 New Horizons 43' 5er 2016 Itasca 27N 28' motorhome 2019 Volvo 860, D13 455/1850, 236" wb, I-Shift, battery-based APU No truck at the moment - we use one of our demo units 2016 smart Passion, piggyback on the truck -------------------------------------------------------------------------See our website for info on New Horizons 5th wheels, HDTs as tow vehicles, communications on the road, and use of solar powerwww.jackdanmayer.com Principal in RVH Lifestyles. RVH-Lifestyles.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyA Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 Jim, while not absolutely necessary, it is always better to use shielded coaxial cable when making long runs with composite video signals, especially when the cables are subjected to many different RF and electromagnetic fields. You will have a lessened chance of signal interference and loss. The impedance of the cable is not critical to these devices. Fully shielded Cat5 or Cat6 as Jack suggested should be OK as well. I just haven't tried using it. I run RG-6 type coaxial cable simply because it is easy to attach the F type compression connectors or even BNC or RCA if you prefer. The tool to attach compression connectors is inexpensive - check Amazon. They also have the RCA connectors that should mate directly with your camera and monitor. I have a run all the way from the back of my fiver that has a F connector at the HDT and then completes the run to the monitor. Always a sharp, clear picture. Also less chance of damage from the tiny video cable provided with the camera. It is the same amount of time and labor to run the coaxial cable. Power cable type is not critical. Randy, Nancy and Oscar "The Great White" - 2004 Volvo VNL670, D12, 10-speed, converted to single axle pulling a Keystone Cambridge 5th wheel, 40', 4 slides and about 19,000# with empty tanks. ARS - WB4BZX, Electrical Engineer, Master Electrician, D.Ed., Professor Emeritus - Happily Retired! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 Local Ag dealers have cameras built for farm conditions. Usually better pricing, too. I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 What Randy said is the same thing I'd say if you are maintaining the coax "situation" with RCA connectors. I generally run so many cameras that I condense the video feeds into a single cat5 via splicing. And then run that to a selector box that I hand build. That gives me less wires to manage - way less. But it is work to do.....I consider it a "one time job", though. Jack & Danielle Mayer #60376 Lifetime Member Living on the road since 2000PLEASE no PM's. Email me. jackdanmayer AT gmail 2016 DRV Houston 44' 5er (we still have it) 2022 New Horizons 43' 5er 2016 Itasca 27N 28' motorhome 2019 Volvo 860, D13 455/1850, 236" wb, I-Shift, battery-based APU No truck at the moment - we use one of our demo units 2016 smart Passion, piggyback on the truck -------------------------------------------------------------------------See our website for info on New Horizons 5th wheels, HDTs as tow vehicles, communications on the road, and use of solar powerwww.jackdanmayer.com Principal in RVH Lifestyles. RVH-Lifestyles.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted July 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 Well, the good news is all the cameras and cabling came out with much issue. The bad news is one camera lost its connector inside the rear cap. When we get the new rig, I'll take the time to solder everything. Jim's Adventures Old Spacecraft.... Who knows whats next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark and Dale Bruss Posted July 23, 2017 Report Share Posted July 23, 2017 Like Jack, I used CAT-5 cable for my cameras. I used a separate cable for each camera. Used one twisted pair for power and one for signal. (built-in spares). CAT-5 is very easy to run. I had three camera, one at the end of the trailer, one at the hitch and one on the headache rack. I used two monitors each switchable to two inputs. Didn't need external switches. Had no interference with CAT-5 running from the rear of the trailer (40') and from the connector on the truck to the monitor (30') For connecting from trailer to truck I used a curled 4-wire toad cable with 7-blade connectors. 7-Blade connectors have a scrapping action when being inserted which keeps the contacts surfaces in better condition. I did solder plugs and camera connector to the CAT-5 wires but run an inch or two of the twisted core wire from the plugs twisted around the solid core of a CAT-5 wire. The twisting takes the stress off of the solder joint. The 22-24 gauge CAT-5 wire is very thin and soldering makes it brittle. Please click for Emails instead of PM Mark & DaleJoey - 2016 Bounder 33C Tige - 2006 40' Travel SupremeSparky III - 2021 Mustang Mach-e, off the the Road since 2019 Useful HDT Truck, Trailer, and Full-timing Info atwww.dmbruss.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan0043 Posted October 7, 2018 Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 Hi Everyone, I have a need to replace the male and female ends close to the camera. One of the pins corroded off and broke. There is no way to remove this pin. My questions are the wires colored coded ? What type of plug would you use for this repair ? If I have to, I can spice the wires together. I have not cut into the wires yet. I hope the wires are color coded. The cable has 4 pins. How many wires go to the camera ? Thanks for any help, Al 2012 Volvo VNL 630 w/ I-Shift; D13 engine; " Veeger " Redwood, model 3401R ; 5th Wheel Trailer, " Dead Wood " 2006 Smart Car " Killer Frog " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted October 7, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2018 4 hours ago, alan0043 said: Hi Everyone, I have a need to replace the male and female ends close to the camera. One of the pins corroded off and broke. There is no way to remove this pin. My questions are the wires colored coded ? What type of plug would you use for this repair ? If I have to, I can spice the wires together. I have not cut into the wires yet. I hope the wires are color coded. The cable has 4 pins. How many wires go to the camera ? Thanks for any help, Al Al, The wires are coded. I soldered all mine when we switched rigs. No issues. Jim's Adventures Old Spacecraft.... Who knows whats next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan0043 Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 14 hours ago, Alie&Jim's Carrilite said: Al, The wires are coded. I soldered all mine when we switched rigs. No issues. Is it possible to use a 4 prong plug like a 4 wire trailer hitch plug ? I would like to have the ability to un-plug the camera if the is a need. Thank you for any help, Thanks Jim for the help. Al 2012 Volvo VNL 630 w/ I-Shift; D13 engine; " Veeger " Redwood, model 3401R ; 5th Wheel Trailer, " Dead Wood " 2006 Smart Car " Killer Frog " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark and Dale Bruss Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 I did in the beginning. But 4-round plugs are fragile with a lot of use. The pins loose their spring and the sleeve contacts come loose. I would up using a 7-flat blade trailer plug/receptacle. It may seem like over kill but 7-blade plugs/receptacles are robust and there is a swiping action of the contacts cleaning them as the plug is inserted. Please click for Emails instead of PM Mark & DaleJoey - 2016 Bounder 33C Tige - 2006 40' Travel SupremeSparky III - 2021 Mustang Mach-e, off the the Road since 2019 Useful HDT Truck, Trailer, and Full-timing Info atwww.dmbruss.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 Oops wrong thread "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sculptor Posted October 8, 2018 Report Share Posted October 8, 2018 Most of this is making sense to me. (I have not purchased my cameras or screen yet) Can someone provide a photo or 2 of the connections they made? "yeah, 220 or 221, whatever it takes." Michael Keaton On 7/23/2017 at 3:48 PM, Mark and Dale Bruss said: I did solder plugs and camera connector to the CAT-5 wires but run an inch or two of the twisted core wire from the plugs twisted around the solid core of a CAT-5 wire. The twisting takes the stress off of the solder joint. The 22-24 gauge CAT-5 wire is very thin and soldering makes it brittle. On 7/23/2017 at 1:19 PM, RandyA said: Fully shielded Cat5 or Cat6 as Jack suggested should be OK as well. I just haven't tried using it. I run RG-6 type coaxial cable simply because it is easy to attach the F type compression connectors or even BNC or RCA if you prefer. RG-6 CAT-5 Kevin and June 2013 Volvo VNL 730 D13 Eco-Torque @ 425 Ratio 2.47 2014 DRV 36TKSB3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted October 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 21 hours ago, Sculptor said: Most of this is making sense to me. (I have not purchased my cameras or screen yet) Can someone provide a photo or 2 of the connections they made? "yeah, 220 or 221, whatever it takes." Michael Keaton RG-6 CAT-5 The Cat 5 cable is what I redid my cameras with. It works better with the camera wiring. Camera wiring on mine from Levithan Holdings (no longer in business) was twisted pairs as well. Jim's Adventures Old Spacecraft.... Who knows whats next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad & Jacolyn Posted October 9, 2018 Report Share Posted October 9, 2018 Jim I ran my cable across the roof and into a box that is on top of the rig. Then down the existing hole and into the basement then forward. Prevented drilling a hole in the cap and fishing the cable. could also go over the top and down a vent pipe. Brad Brad and Jacolyn Tucker the Wonder dog and Brynn the Norfolk Terrier 2009 Smart "Joy" 2004 VNL630 "Vonda the Volvo" 2008 Hitch Hiker 35 CK Champagne Edition VED12 465 HP, Freedomline, 3.73 ratio, WB 218" Fulltiming and loving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Kildow Posted October 12, 2018 Report Share Posted October 12, 2018 What plug is everyone using when hard wired? To make the Connection from the trailer, to the truck? My old camera is wireless, = junk unless used on truck only. So will be adding a wired camera to the rear of the camper. With 3 other camera's on the tractor. Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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