dblr Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 Are you between Taos and Angle Fire? If so we saw that campground was fixing the place up looks good if it's the same place, enjoy!!! Quote 2017 River Stone Legacy 38MB 2001 T2000 Kenworth 2009 Smart Passion ET Junior hitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimster Posted September 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 Yes it is and yes it is. https://www.rvtaoscanyonstop.com/ Quote Robert & Lisa '14 Keystone Fuzion 315 38' 5er 2015 Volvo VNL 670, D13, iShift 'The Tartis' (ours) 2013 Smart Fortwo Passion 'K-9' 2011 CanAm Spyder RT Limited (Ours) We are both USAF vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted September 29, 2020 Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 Bob, before you spend money upgrading to Mor-Ryde axles and such, do some research on other units. After much looking, we found our Newmar with Mor-Ryde, Dexter axles with hydraulic disk brakes, and other tasty features. Just saying, it might be more cost effective to trade. We put about $15k in upgrades to our old unit, only to trade it in. They allowed us $15k. Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimster Posted September 29, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2020 9 hours ago, rickeieio said: Bob, before you spend money upgrading to Mor-Ryde axles and such, do some research on other units. After much looking, we found our Newmar with Mor-Ryde, Dexter axles with hydraulic disk brakes, and other tasty features. Just saying, it might be more cost effective to trade. We put about $15k in upgrades to our old unit, only to trade it in. They allowed us $15k. Our trailer brakes & bearings are long over due for maintenance. The trailer has been setting for years, so not much road work. I'm only going to do what I find in the teardown + Mor/Ryde shackles & suspension units. No new axles. I put shocks on years ago. They seemed to help. We are chatting about getting a new (used) trailer. Kinda betting there will be lots available in the near future. Quote Robert & Lisa '14 Keystone Fuzion 315 38' 5er 2015 Volvo VNL 670, D13, iShift 'The Tartis' (ours) 2013 Smart Fortwo Passion 'K-9' 2011 CanAm Spyder RT Limited (Ours) We are both USAF vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dblr Posted September 30, 2020 Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 On 9/28/2020 at 8:46 PM, trimster said: Yes it is and yes it is. https://www.rvtaoscanyonstop.com/ Ok great, we are always looking for places in that area as our son lives in Taos, we usually stay in the nice campground in town but their prices are getting a bit to steep. We really need him to buy a place with room for us when we visit Quote 2017 River Stone Legacy 38MB 2001 T2000 Kenworth 2009 Smart Passion ET Junior hitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimster Posted September 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2020 (edited) Down side right now is the lack of laundry & you need to take your propane tanks down the mountain into Taos to get them filled. Just chatted with the owner. Next season there will be 17 more sites for big rigs and "other" additions. Edited September 30, 2020 by trimster Quote Robert & Lisa '14 Keystone Fuzion 315 38' 5er 2015 Volvo VNL 670, D13, iShift 'The Tartis' (ours) 2013 Smart Fortwo Passion 'K-9' 2011 CanAm Spyder RT Limited (Ours) We are both USAF vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dblr Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 21 hours ago, trimster said: Down side right now is the lack of laundry & you need to take your propane tanks down the mountain into Taos to get them filled. Just chatted with the owner. Next season there will be 17 more sites for big rigs and "other" additions. Thanks for the update, the distance to town is our biggest factor but I am sure it is much more peaceful then the one in town Quote 2017 River Stone Legacy 38MB 2001 T2000 Kenworth 2009 Smart Passion ET Junior hitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimster Posted October 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 The owner said new expansion next season would include a laundry as well. Really nice people. Quote Robert & Lisa '14 Keystone Fuzion 315 38' 5er 2015 Volvo VNL 670, D13, iShift 'The Tartis' (ours) 2013 Smart Fortwo Passion 'K-9' 2011 CanAm Spyder RT Limited (Ours) We are both USAF vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimster Posted October 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) Traction problems in these gravel and dirt camp grounds is frustrating. Especially on uneven ground. I can turn on traction for both axles but it's not posi-traction. If a drive wheel gets lifted off the ground, it's way too easy to spin the other, digging in. With the trailer hooked, less problem. Pin weight. I'm sure when I add the bed to the truck, that weight will help as well. Just this and the last campsite is stressful when the re-hook time comes. I didn't want the more aggressive tire tread on the drives. Might have to rethink that. Bob Edited October 1, 2020 by trimster typos Quote Robert & Lisa '14 Keystone Fuzion 315 38' 5er 2015 Volvo VNL 670, D13, iShift 'The Tartis' (ours) 2013 Smart Fortwo Passion 'K-9' 2011 CanAm Spyder RT Limited (Ours) We are both USAF vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyretired Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 hour ago, trimster said: Traction problems in these gravel are dirt camp grounds is frustrating. Especially on uneven ground. I can turn on traction for both axles but it's not posi-traction. If a drive wheel gets lifted off the ground, it's way to easy to spin the other, digging in. With the trailer hooked, less problem. Pin weight. I'm sure when I add the bed to the truck, that wright will help as well. Just this and the last campsite is stressful when the re-hook time comes. I didn't want the more aggressive tire tread on the drives. Might have to rethink that. Bob A bed with storage will help. We carry a Subaru length wise so we have a longer and heavier bed than most. The bed completely eliminated that problem but I built it a little heavier than needed. The frame was lengthened 5' and our Teton has plenty of tongue weight so that also helps. When we had a pickup and smaller 5er we had to use 4 wheel drive to back the trailer up our drive. The HDT does it without engaging the 2nd axle. It also has 2 air lockers but we rarely need that. We boondock a lot so traction is important and the bed was designed with that in mind. Quote Randy 2001 Volvo VNL 42 Cummins ISX Autoshift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 X2 what Randy said. An empty tractor is horrible. Building a bed will help with traction, and let you get some weigh out of the trailer. Win, win. Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 I'm trying to picture the RV park with roads that bad that you're lifting a wheel. Quote I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrformance Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 I lift a wheel when driving off the road onto my front yard, I have used my second drive axle a few times to stop a spinning wheel. Quote 2006 Volvo VNL 780, " Arvey" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 2010 Forest River Coachman Freedom Express 280RLS Jackalopee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimster Posted October 1, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 Wish I would have taken a pic. The site was 18-20" higher than the crown of the dirt road. Between is a dip like a gutter for water run off. The dip was 4' max wide. When the rear axle was on one side, the front drive axle tires are not touching. Had to do it at an angle. Bob Quote Robert & Lisa '14 Keystone Fuzion 315 38' 5er 2015 Volvo VNL 670, D13, iShift 'The Tartis' (ours) 2013 Smart Fortwo Passion 'K-9' 2011 CanAm Spyder RT Limited (Ours) We are both USAF vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted October 1, 2020 Report Share Posted October 1, 2020 Gotcha, Robert. As I was reading your description, I could picture the terrain. Seems to be a design feature of many parks. Quote I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) Guys - tandem drive axle trucks apply power to both diffs via the inter axle differential. One axle is not disengaged. Think of each differential as a “wheel” at the ends of an axle (driveline). Edited October 5, 2020 by noteven Quote "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimster Posted October 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) So, engage the power too both axels, and the right front and left rear are powered. In reverse. Left front & right rear are powered. On my truck. Edited October 5, 2020 by trimster Quote Robert & Lisa '14 Keystone Fuzion 315 38' 5er 2015 Volvo VNL 670, D13, iShift 'The Tartis' (ours) 2013 Smart Fortwo Passion 'K-9' 2011 CanAm Spyder RT Limited (Ours) We are both USAF vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 With inter-axle diff locked, either wheel on each axle might spin. Makes no difference left or right. Keep in mind, the air lines going to the bags are very small. Uneven ground will load one set of wheels and unload another. This is good for road work, horrible for off-road. If you have wheel spinning, just stop and wait for that bag to equalize with the others. Slow and steady. Next time you're by a KW with air ride, look at the size of the air lines. That's how they get away with air ride off-road. Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
podwerkz Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) If your truck has an ATC (automatic traction control) button or switch, turn it off (light will come ON) when a wheel is lifted and spinning. This is in addition to engaging the power divider (interaxle differential). Edited October 5, 2020 by podwerkz Quote Nothing to see here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-WQT9SbntQ YouTube won't let me embed the video, gotta click the link. Edited October 5, 2020 by Darryl&Rita Quote I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrformance Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 10 hours ago, rickeieio said: With inter-axle diff locked, either wheel on each axle might spin. Makes no difference left or right. Keep in mind, the air lines going to the bags are very small. Uneven ground will load one set of wheels and unload another. This is good for road work, horrible for off-road. If you have wheel spinning, just stop and wait for that bag to equalize with the others. Slow and steady. Next time you're by a KW with air ride, look at the size of the air lines. That's how they get away with air ride off-road. With the Volvos, would temporarily dumping the bags help with this? Quote 2006 Volvo VNL 780, " Arvey" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 2010 Forest River Coachman Freedom Express 280RLS Jackalopee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmup68 Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 How's the cell service in Taos Canyon? Was there additional parking for the truck? 60' isn't enough for trailer and truck (and Jeep in my case) Quote 2003 International Eagle 9200i, Cummins ISX, Freedomline 2007 Teton Scottsdale XT4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
podwerkz Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Parrformance said: With the Volvos, would temporarily dumping the bags help with this? I dont know about the clearances on his truck but this might cause one or two tires to rub or scratch on a fender. It might help but proceed with caution! Quote Nothing to see here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimster Posted October 5, 2020 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 No cell service on any carrier. You use the campgrounds wifi to do VOIP. Yes, extra parking for toys. Literally hundreds of miles of backroads for jeeps, SxS, dirt bikes, and bicycles. The hosts went out of the park, turned left and did 40+ miles of back roads and trails. Bob Quote Robert & Lisa '14 Keystone Fuzion 315 38' 5er 2015 Volvo VNL 670, D13, iShift 'The Tartis' (ours) 2013 Smart Fortwo Passion 'K-9' 2011 CanAm Spyder RT Limited (Ours) We are both USAF vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrformance Posted October 5, 2020 Report Share Posted October 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, podwerkz said: I dont know about the clearances on his truck but this might cause one or two tires to rub or scratch on a fender. It might help but proceed with caution! 10-4, because of the brilliance of Henry, my truck has the correct clearance to drive whether the bags are inflated or deflated. Quote 2006 Volvo VNL 780, " Arvey" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 2010 Forest River Coachman Freedom Express 280RLS Jackalopee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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