Lance A Lott Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 Got the Smart up to 55 for the first time this past week while on vacation, it starts to shake at 55. At first I thought it was the road because it is smoth at 54. I manually put it in 4th no change. When I get it off the volvo I will do more testing, unfortunately I will have to speed a little to make it shake, limit is 50 for 35 miles in every direction. Any suggestions other than a bad tire, there all new by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 I've had new tires shake......that's what comes to mind. There's not much else in the system, no drive shaft or such. How many miles? KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance A Lott Posted August 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 121k tire are my first thought as well. It did have a cracked tone ring when I got it which I brazzed but that would be way too small to make this much shake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim & Wilma Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 Have you driven through any mud holes? I’ve had a small amount of mud on the inside of the wheel cause a very noticeable vibration. Jim & Wilma 2006 Travel Supreme 36RLQSO 2009 Volvo VNL730, D13, I-shift, ET, Herrin Hauler bed, "Ruby" 2017 Smart Class of 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad & Jacolyn Posted August 16, 2019 Report Share Posted August 16, 2019 I'm leaning toward a lost wheel weight OR something stuck on a rim causing out of balance. Can you isolate it to a specific wheel? Brad and Jacolyn Tucker the Wonder dog and Brynn the Norfolk Terrier 2009 Smart "Joy" 2004 VNL630 "Vonda the Volvo" 2008 Hitch Hiker 35 CK Champagne Edition VED12 465 HP, Freedomline, 3.73 ratio, WB 218" Fulltiming and loving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance A Lott Posted August 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 Its back on the truck at the moment but I would have guessed right rear. The wheel weights are still there and the rim is clean. I put it on the forum hopping there was not a known issue that I had not heard of.😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrknrvr Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 Now we're testing how much weight a smart could carry. That could cause a problem. You need to balance it nicely. Just could not resist,. Vern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 Vern, I have one word for you...........sulkey. KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 rick would that be a 3rd axle so Vern would need a CDL? "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad & Jacolyn Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 14 hours ago, Lance A Lott said: Its back on the truck at the moment but I would have guessed right rear. The wheel weights are still there and the rim is clean. I put it on the forum hopping there was not a known issue that I had not heard of.😁 One other thing I can think of is the possibility of a thrown belt in the tire. Inspect the tires. The tread will not be straight if a belt is going. Brad and Jacolyn Tucker the Wonder dog and Brynn the Norfolk Terrier 2009 Smart "Joy" 2004 VNL630 "Vonda the Volvo" 2008 Hitch Hiker 35 CK Champagne Edition VED12 465 HP, Freedomline, 3.73 ratio, WB 218" Fulltiming and loving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 5 hours ago, noteven said: rick would that be a 3rd axle so Vern would need a CDL? Nahhh,, just register the smart as a mh, and keeo it under 65' oal.😜 KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrknrvr Posted August 17, 2019 Report Share Posted August 17, 2019 I have a cdl so that would work. Now I am thinking differently about the jeep thing. thanks for the ideas guys,. Vern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Has a tire sealant ever been used on that tire? That can cause a tire to go out of balance. Jim's Adventures Old Spacecraft.... Who knows whats next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance A Lott Posted August 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 No. the tires may have 150 miles on them at the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Make sure the lugs are tight. There is a reason you are supposed to re torque within a hundred miles. Nigel 2006 Volvo VNL 430, 2006 smart cabrio cdi, 2000 Triple E Topaz 30' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrknrvr Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 Is it shaking up and down or sideways. May be hard to tell. Switch tires to back and try. Several years ago I hit a deer with my jeep. It messed up a bunch of stuff. Even put other tires and wheels on it. Finally got it fairly good for driving, but it still shook at 59 mph. In the process I put the old tires and wheels back on. But did not put the tires on the same place as I did not mark them. Took jeep in to get tires balanced. Right front tire was out of round. It could not be balanced. So had it put on the rear axle. At 25 mph that tire shook the jeep. Next morning put another set of tires on and 69 mph it drove great. Did not even balance the new to jeep tires. Look at the tire near the rim. There may be a rib molded into the tire to see if it is on the rim evenly. Also look at tires closely to see if they look out of shape. When you have tire of the ground to change the tires see if they're is anything loose in the front end. Thoughts only,. Vern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chief916 Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 23 hours ago, Brad & Jacolyn said: One other thing I can think of is the possibility of a thrown belt in the tire. Inspect the tires. The tread will not be straight if a belt is going. A tire or two maybe out of round or broken belt. If it's a broken or thrown belt...the tire is no good. Out o round...maybe can have the tire scrubbed and maybe can be balanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, chief916 said: A tire or two maybe out of round or broken belt. If it's a broken or thrown belt...the tire is no good. Out o round...maybe can have the tire scrubbed and maybe can be balanced. As cheap as those tires are I would just replace it. 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERO Maker Posted August 18, 2019 Report Share Posted August 18, 2019 OK, so you say the tires only have 150 miles on them. Like Nigel mentioned, have the wheels been re-torqued? One of the best things I have learned thru this group is to go back to the last thing that was done (new tires for you) and see what happened. You can chock your wheels, lift up each wheel individually and then place something on the ground just next to the bottom of the tread. Spin the wheel and see how out of round that tire may be. If it is, and after checking the bead next to the edge of the rim, take it back. Defective tire. It happens. Rocky & Sheri Rhoades '01 Volvo 770 2016 DRV Mobile Suites, HoustonHERO Makers Ministry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance A Lott Posted August 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2019 Thanks everyone. I got back from vacation Thursday night and then had to get ready for family today so the car is still on the truck. I have had the car, actually got it for my wife's 70th, just under a year and it spent the winter on the Volvo in the shed. The test drive was down a dirt road past a cop's house so I never got it up to "full" speed the other night was the first time we ever got it to 55, the NY state speed limit. I will pull it off the truck tomorrow and try some of the suggestions. I will probably put it on the lift and run it also if none of the other things become obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance A Lott Posted August 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2019 I got it pulled apart today, up on the lift it would realy hop. The brakes seem to drag a little so I pulled them apart both rear shoes were not retracting. The rear piston was stuck hard I was able to get them to move with a punch and hamer. New shoes and pistons on order. Nothing else seemed to be amiss. If you want to spin the wheels at speed you have to pull fuse 11 to turn of traction control. Thanks again to all who replied I will update after I get it back together. Lance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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