txmilam Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 was talking with a tx dps officer about using my truck as mh he said your only trouble i might have is cities and counties are getting certified to do dot inspections and may not know the rules and may not contact dps for guidance any thoughts...... big 5er.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 This is why we carry copies of our domicile state laws concerning MH status. Registration and licensing is reciprocal so given that you can show your legality in your home state, that should be sufficient. Now, a LEO may still write you a ticket, but asking for a supervisor in that case would likely mitigate that - IF you have the research handy and it is clearly stated. Quote Jack & Danielle Mayer #60376 Lifetime Member Living on the road since 2000PLEASE no PM's. Email me. jackdanmayer AT gmail 2016 DRV Houston 44' 5er (we still have it) 2022 New Horizons 43' 5er 2016 Itasca 27N 28' motorhome 2019 Volvo 860, D13 455/1850, 236" wb, I-Shift, battery-based APU No truck at the moment - we use one of our demo units 2016 smart Passion, piggyback on the truck -------------------------------------------------------------------------See our website for info on New Horizons 5th wheels, HDTs as tow vehicles, communications on the road, and use of solar powerwww.jackdanmayer.com Principal in RVH Lifestyles. RVH-Lifestyles.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big5er Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 6 hours ago, Jack Mayer said: This is why we carry copies of our domicile state laws concerning MH status. Registration and licensing is reciprocal so given that you can show your legality in your home state, that should be sufficient. Now, a LEO may still write you a ticket, but asking for a supervisor in that case would likely mitigate that - IF you have the research handy and it is clearly stated. What he said. ^^^^^^^ And they are less likely to have questions if you are registered as a MH than as a Truck. They will have more questions about you driving a 52,000 lb truck without a CDL than a motorhome. Quote MY PEOPLE SKILLS ARE JUST FINE.~It's my tolerance to idiots that needs work.~ 2005 Volvo 780 VED12 465hp / Freedomline transmission singled mid position / Bed by Larry Herrin2018 customed Mobile Suites 40KSSB3 2014 smart Fortwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 And I'll repeat, thank you Phil for suggesting we put together a binder with registration, insurance and copies of applicable home state laws, all in clear sleeves with pertinent points highlighted. I had a Texas SHP thank me for making his job easy, as he handed me two warning tickets. Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twotoes Posted July 20, 2019 Report Share Posted July 20, 2019 Do cities and counties have jurisdiction on this matter or is it only state agencies that can enforce state vehicle laws. I know that local law enforcement can give you a speeding ticket but State law gives local municipalities the ability to determine and set local speed laws but not equipment violations. Quote 2015 Itasca Ellipse 42QD 2017 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon Hard Rock Edition 2021 Harley Street Glide Special Fulltimer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big5er Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 I think you are confusing two separate issues. Cities and Counties can write you a citation for the wrong type of drivers license or anything else they find you in violation of. BUT you specifically asked about "dot inspections". We are exempt from "dot inspections" so I'm not really sure what you are asking about, but yes certain cities and counties, in Texas, are authorized by law to conduct dot inspections and issue citations for violating the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulations. Quote MY PEOPLE SKILLS ARE JUST FINE.~It's my tolerance to idiots that needs work.~ 2005 Volvo 780 VED12 465hp / Freedomline transmission singled mid position / Bed by Larry Herrin2018 customed Mobile Suites 40KSSB3 2014 smart Fortwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sehc Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 The main problem I find is the weight and size restrictions local to a municipality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big5er Posted July 21, 2019 Report Share Posted July 21, 2019 7 hours ago, Sehc said: The main problem I find is the weight and size restrictions local to a municipality. Such as?? I'm not sure I follow. If a tractor and trailer can deliver products there then we can go there. I'm not sure I want to drive down a road where they can't go. There must be a reason. Cities rarely limit size and weight just for the hell of it. Just like people question whether we can fit into smallish gas stations. Somebody in a tractor/trailer delivered their fuel. I may choose not to get into the smaller stations but obviously it can be done. Quote MY PEOPLE SKILLS ARE JUST FINE.~It's my tolerance to idiots that needs work.~ 2005 Volvo 780 VED12 465hp / Freedomline transmission singled mid position / Bed by Larry Herrin2018 customed Mobile Suites 40KSSB3 2014 smart Fortwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moresmoke Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Big5er said: Such as?? I'm not sure I follow. If a tractor and trailer can deliver products there then we can go there. I'm not sure I want to drive down a road where they can't go. There must be a reason. Cities rarely limit size and weight just for the hell of it. Just like people question whether we can fit into smallish gas stations. Somebody in a tractor/trailer delivered their fuel. I may choose not to get into the smaller stations but obviously it can be done. Some areas, the local municipalities like to restrict trucks from city streets. They argue it is for the sake of the roads, but usually it’s because they don’t want to see trucks. One of the towns near me, there is one gas station in town, with a truck diesel island. Technically you can’t fuel there as it is not on a truck route, and all the streets are posted no trucks? As to the OPs question, my county is pondering having a Deputy Sheriff for truck enforcement. The area commercial enforcement Trooper from the State Highway Patrol is retiring, and the state doesn’t plan on replacing him. So I would say it is quite possible that towns and counties can enforce most all the laws, depending where you are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big5er Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 All the more reason to register your HDT as a motorhome. 😁 Quote MY PEOPLE SKILLS ARE JUST FINE.~It's my tolerance to idiots that needs work.~ 2005 Volvo 780 VED12 465hp / Freedomline transmission singled mid position / Bed by Larry Herrin2018 customed Mobile Suites 40KSSB3 2014 smart Fortwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FL-JOE Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 On 7/20/2019 at 5:54 AM, txmilam said: was talking with a tx dps officer about using my truck as mh he said your only trouble i might have is cities and counties are getting certified to do dot inspections and may not know the rules and may not contact dps for guidance any thoughts...... big 5er.... Where I came from only the State Police were certified/trained to enforce the commercial carrier regs (DOT). Locals could seek the training and certification but few ever did. Then back in the 90's the number of troopers started going down and some local city and county began training a handful of officers to be dedicated motor carrier enforcement officers. As has already been stated, if your truck is being used as a MH then make sure it is registered as such. Having a clear indication on the side like "Not For Hire" is a good idea also. Quote Joe & Cindy Newmar 4369 Ventana Pulling 24' enclosed (Mini Cooper, Harley, 2 Kayaks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big5er Posted July 22, 2019 Report Share Posted July 22, 2019 2 hours ago, FL-JOE said: As has already been stated, if your truck is being used as a MH then make sure it is registered as such. Having a clear indication on the side like "Not For Hire" is a good idea also. The "Not For Hire" issue has been batted around this forum ad nauseum. It is all personal preference since it really means nothing. I personally think the signs look crappy, others think they are the greatest thing since sliced bread. Pepsi-Co is the largest private commercial motor carrier in the U.S. Last years stats show they have 11,000 tractors, 3500 trucks, 20,600 pickups and vans, along with 17,500 trailers and they are all "not for hire". They still need a USDOT number, and must follow all the other Fed Regs and their drivers need CDL's. So what does "Not For Hire" on the side of the truck mean? For them, not much. They could put "Not for Hire" on all their tractors. It simply means they are "not for hire", they haul only their own product and do not haul anyone else's property, but it doesn't mean they are not commercial. For you, nothing really. It indicates that you think it means you don't need markings and a dot number on your truck. But it won't necessarily keep you from getting stopped. I know of at least two people on here that haul their own RV and commercially also. Do you think they have DOT numbers or "not for hire" on the sides of their trucks? Just be prepared to explain what you are doing and why you are doing it the way you are. If you are doing it correctly, and confident in your answers, you'll be ok with or without the lettering. Like I said, it's whatever makes you feel good. Quote MY PEOPLE SKILLS ARE JUST FINE.~It's my tolerance to idiots that needs work.~ 2005 Volvo 780 VED12 465hp / Freedomline transmission singled mid position / Bed by Larry Herrin2018 customed Mobile Suites 40KSSB3 2014 smart Fortwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sehc Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 Weight restriction on a county bridge. The RV claimed he was not commercial. He paid the same fine as a long distance trucker or a UPS . Plus was liable for the damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 Ahhh, bridges. In a little town hear here, where many of you have been, (Aurora, IN, on the way to Little Farm), there's an old steel bridge with a 6 ton weight limit. The state certified it for all legal loads, but the town doesn't want truck traffic to/from the river terminal going through that area. Before the restrictions, I took a combine w/ header trailer through there. 16.5' wide and over 60' long. Police weren't happy...... Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big5er Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Sehc said: Weight restriction on a county bridge. The RV claimed he was not commercial. He paid the same fine as a long distance trucker or a UPS . Plus was liable for the damage. Damage?? They rated that bridge at whatever weight for a reason. Unfortunately the signs don't say "Weight Limit only applies to Commercial Vehicles". I know we had a pair of bridges here that the county re-rated after the State told them to lower the allowed weight, rebuild the bridge or close it. If they were empty a 5 axle tractor and trailer could legally make it, loaded there was no way. The same for 3 axle dump trucks. The county posted signs with bright orange flags way before the bridge and also at the last place to turn before the bridge. After 2 weeks they called my partner and I. It was like shooting fish in a barrel. Trucks don't much use those bridges no more. They decided that the other road was better. Quote MY PEOPLE SKILLS ARE JUST FINE.~It's my tolerance to idiots that needs work.~ 2005 Volvo 780 VED12 465hp / Freedomline transmission singled mid position / Bed by Larry Herrin2018 customed Mobile Suites 40KSSB3 2014 smart Fortwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 On 7/20/2019 at 6:48 PM, rickeieio said: And I'll repeat, thank you Phil for suggesting we put together a binder with registration, insurance and copies of applicable home state laws, all in clear sleeves with pertinent points highlighted. I had a Texas SHP thank me for making his job easy, as he handed me two warning tickets. Same as the North Dakota Patrolman that said he had learned something that day.... Quote Jim's Adventures Old Spacecraft.... Who knows whats next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickW Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 Trucker takes 43 ton truck over 14 ton bridge, with expected results Quote 2017 Entegra Anthem 44A SOLD - 2004 Volvo 780. 465hp and 10sp Auto Shift (from 2010~2017) SOLD - 2009 Montana 3400RL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Big5er said: Damage?? They rated that bridge at whatever weight for a reason. Unfortunately the signs don't say "Weight Limit only applies to Commercial Vehicles". I know we had a pair of bridges here that the county re-rated after the State told them to lower the allowed weight, rebuild the bridge or close it. If they were empty a 5 axle tractor and trailer could legally make it, loaded there was no way. The same for 3 axle dump trucks. The county posted signs with bright orange flags way before the bridge and also at the last place to turn before the bridge. After 2 weeks they called my partner and I. It was like shooting fish in a barrel. Trucks don't much use those bridges no more. They decided that the other road was better. There are a lot of bridges in Mississippi that say 18T or 30T max load etc.... There is an Indian Casino near Laurel Mississippi that every road has a bridge with a limited weight.... So how did they build the Casino? Quote Jim's Adventures Old Spacecraft.... Who knows whats next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big5er Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, RickW said: 14 minutes ago, Alie&Jim's Carrilite said: I wasn't questioning being charged for damages, I'm just trying to grasp driving your RV on a road where your 35,000lb truck/trailer could CAUSE damage. I've been on some dinky little roads before, but nothing that bad. Obviously I don't travel the back roads like some people do. Quote MY PEOPLE SKILLS ARE JUST FINE.~It's my tolerance to idiots that needs work.~ 2005 Volvo 780 VED12 465hp / Freedomline transmission singled mid position / Bed by Larry Herrin2018 customed Mobile Suites 40KSSB3 2014 smart Fortwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARGO Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 Remember, that is the load ON the bridge at any given time. If it is a short bridge or culvert, you may be OK depending on how far apart your axles are. Quote You'd have to see the movie to understand.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pappy Yokum Posted July 23, 2019 Report Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Alie&Jim's Carrilite said: There are a lot of bridges in Mississippi that say 18T or 30T max load etc.... There is an Indian Casino near Laurel Mississippi that every road has a bridge with a limited weight.... So how did they build the Casino? Waver - permit to use the bridges (no doubt with stipulations in the event of damage). The casino would/will bring in $$ to the surrounding area - as well as to the casino itself. *Revenue* talks - loads can.......walk ??, ROTFL . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dblr Posted July 24, 2019 Report Share Posted July 24, 2019 20 hours ago, rickeieio said: Ahhh, bridges. In a little town hear here, where many of you have been, (Aurora, IN, on the way to Little Farm), there's an old steel bridge with a 6 ton weight limit. The state certified it for all legal loads, but the town doesn't want truck traffic to/from the river terminal going through that area. Before the restrictions, I took a combine w/ header trailer through there. 16.5' wide and over 60' long. Police weren't happy...... I know exactly what bridge you are talking about in fact I had to turn around because of it, the 1st weight sign was at the stop sign right before the bridge I was glad I saw it so I just pulled over towards the barber shop and was able to turn around in the mill across the street after calling my friends for the way around it. I guess they don't put the warning back at the light because of all the trucks heading to the mill. Quote 2017 River Stone Legacy 38MB 2001 T2000 Kenworth 2009 Smart Passion ET Junior hitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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