RogerV Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Hey people my name Roger from central Wisconsin and I just picked up my project 2005 Volvo 630 with 537k on it. it is a 250" wheel base truck a little unusual. my plan is to be able to haul 2 Harleys behind the cab (I need 7' for the bikes and 55"for the camper) and then my 38" 5th wheel for now. We singled it short yesterday and it went pretty easy. My first question is singled short it is at 230" and I am thinking maybe I should go a little shorter because of turning radius. The good thing is I wont have to add to the frame in fact I will have to cut some off!. Any thoughts? I am sure there will be many more questions to come if you don't mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERO Maker Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Welcome to the group. Can you flip those pics? Don't cut anything off yet! You may like to have all the storage available to you behind those wheels. Rocky & Sheri Rhoades '01 Volvo 770 2016 DRV Mobile Suites, HoustonHERO Makers Ministry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncohauler Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Leave it long. Looks great and more storage is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Actually 230 is very close to ideal. That must have been a long truck. 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerV Posted April 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Yes it was long but with the long wheel base and the air ride front it road pretty smooth on the 700 mi back home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIBERNUT Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Welcome! If you singled it short using the rear axle, be aware the input yoke is not the same as the front if you're having a shaft made. 2000 Volvo 635 A/S, N-14 Cummins"The Phoenix"'03 KA 38KSWB http://s918.photobucket.com/user/sibernut/library/?sort=6&page=1Furkids- Sibe's CH. Sedona & Tseika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick & Alana Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 Have you ran the numbers using the spread sheet on Jacks web site? You can estimate the weights on the steer axle and drive. Do this before you cut anything off. Rick and Alana Fulltimers 2018 Newmar Ventana 4037 2020 Jeep Gladiator 1997 Jeep TJ 2009 Mobile Suites 36RSSB3 formerly owned 2000 Volvo 770, 600 Cummins ISX,18 speed autoshift, 14 foot "garage" ET,Jackalopee,MaxBrake,Pressure Pro pro www.rickandalanasgreatadventures.blogspot.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billr Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Don't cut anything. Ha. I did and had to add back on 3 yrs later when changed plan. Also what Ron said on shaft yoke sizes. I built two nice drive shafts. Well only one would work, the second built. Hum. Because the axle is so far back when you put the two Harley's on fwd of the axle it may put a bit more in the front axle when bobtail but should even out when trailer pin is loaded. Having the hitch at the very end will help off load the front axle. Might help decide on leaving the frame intact. Try the test build like Rick said. Enjoy the build. Bill and Joan and 3 Collie pups 2001 Volvo VNL 770 "The Doghouse" Singled short, "ET" hItch VED12 465HP Gen 1 Autoshift 3.58 ratio 2005 Mobile Suite 38RL3 2011 Smart Passion loaded piggybacK Weigh-It Portable RV Scales http://www.weighitrv.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chooseopen Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Welcome to the group! The folks on this forum have a ton of knowledge. I am not too far south of you in central IL. I didn't do my singling so I can't be of much help though. Nice looking truck! 2007 Volvo VNL670, Singled, Air ride hitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerV Posted April 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Thanks for the input and keep it coming! On the yokes I did measure them and checked with the dealer and there different by about 3mm or so. The truck came from Mississippi and i dont think it ever left as there is no rust on anything,the reason it was so long is it came from a company that had a crane on it but i can see any evidence of it (Powell Transportation) the bad part is the paint is shot from the sun and the interior needs some cosmetics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lappir Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 In addition to all the info here and other places, don't forget http://rvhaulers.ca/ for some great video tutorials. Rod White 2000/2010Volvo VNL 770 with 7' Drom box with opposing doors, JOST slider hitch. 600 HP Cummins Signature 18 Speed three pedal auto shift. 1999 Isuzu VehiCross retired to a sticks and bricks garage. Brought out of storage the summer of 2022 2022 Jeep Wrangler Sport S Two door hard top. 2007 Honda GL 1800 2013 Space Craft Mfg S420 Custom built Toyhauler The Gold Volvo is still running and being emptied in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldride Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 As suggested don't cut till you have to. Flip pics my neck is sore from looking upside down. Storage under the truck is a good thing. Draw it several times change it more and you will get there. Interior can always be fixed paint to match will take care of the looks. Like the song I did it my way. rather your way. Have fun. 2011 CAN-AM Spyder Rt SE5, 2010 Alpine 5th wheel, 1998 Vovlo VNL610 Hopefully 2 years 6 month till full time retirement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerV Posted April 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 The pics are odd I uploaded them right side up the thumbnails are upside but when I click on them they are right side up??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil D Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 They display upside down for the rest of us, for some reason, just as they are in the thumbnails. Phil 2002 Teton Royal Aspen 2003 Kenworth T2000 - Cat C12 380/430 1450/1650, FreedomLine, 3.36 - TOTO . . . he's not in Kansas anymore. ET Air Hitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 They display upside down for the rest of us, for some reason, just as they are in the thumbnails. Phil I think it is an Apple thing. They are right side up when I click on them with the ipad but stay upside down on my Windows machine. Nigel 2006 Volvo VNL 430, 2006 smart cabrio cdi, 2000 Triple E Topaz 30' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncohauler Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Right side up on my iPhone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 I getting sore neck also. Run the numbers on Jack's spread sheet. Will answer lots of questions. Congratulations 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkennell Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 I'm not to far South either...just south of I80 near I39 in IL. I too encourage you to put the hitch back at the end of that nice looking long frame. I've run my truck both ways, hitch over the axle and air hitch at the tail...and the air hitch rides ever so much nicer and the trailer is so much easier to wiggle around with the hitch at the back. No camper at present. Way too many farm machines to maintain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Hi RickV - if you call a seasoned Volvo truck salesperson they should be able to confirm what you gain in turn radius per unit of wheelbase shortening ... if there is waffling around ask them to call the factory applications engineering and get the number... then take the truck out in the yard and carve a turn in both directions and measure the turn radius's z or the diameter of the circle. Then you can stand there and decide if $$ and hours of work spent = value for inches gained... vs loss of truck deck room behind the sleeper ... The main drivelines are often heavier spec than the interaxle driveline between the drive axles should be why the yokes are different sizes. "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialksr Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Rick, Your in your 630 is it a single bunk configuration? If so do you plan to change it? I'm considering a 2004 630,auto, cummins. DW really likes the workstation. Good luck with your build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad & Jacolyn Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Don't cut off anything until you are absolutely certain of what you want to do. My hitch is all the way back on our 630 and nothing was cut off. I really like the extra storage behind the axle. Brad Brad and Jacolyn Tucker the Wonder dog and Brynn the Norfolk Terrier 2009 Smart "Joy" 2004 VNL630 "Vonda the Volvo" 2008 Hitch Hiker 35 CK Champagne Edition VED12 465 HP, Freedomline, 3.73 ratio, WB 218" Fulltiming and loving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specialksr Posted April 14, 2016 Report Share Posted April 14, 2016 Brad, What us the brand of your hitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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