floncto Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 If I installed an auto leveling system on my fiver, what determines whether I need a four or six leveler system-- Is it trailer weight or trailer frame construction? I assume if it is frame construction, the smaller the frame members, the more levelers needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERO Maker Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 With a 32 ft. trailer, depending on the frame, you should be ok with a 4 leg system. You should contact Coachman mfg. and find out what they recommend. I have 42 ft. trailer with 4 leg Big Foot system and it works just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis M Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Ours is 37' and the BigFoot works great. Strong enough to raise all eight (yes 8) tires off the ground for maintenance. I love the one button convenience. We both think it is the best RV investment we ever made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
floncto Posted November 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 The trailer title is deceiving. It's actually 38 ft with triple slides. The Wyoming line was discontinued in about 2009 or 10, and Coachman customer service isn't good, so I'll try it but don't expect much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIBERNUT Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Levels are great, but don't hold your breath on the "auto" part. I have HWH and it was telling me both ends of the trailer were low at the same time (HUH??). Bubbles don't lie, installed next to the controller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Greg Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 We have very pleased with our Quadra Big Foot auto leveling system. Another suggestion would be to contact Quadra (4 Big Foot) and Lippert (6 Level Up feet) and see if they have done any installations on your fifth wheel model or if they would/could. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
don&penny Posted November 16, 2015 Report Share Posted November 16, 2015 Frame stiffness should be the determining factor. Weight would only determine the size of cylinder needed, to assure lifting capacity. Frame stiffness will determine whether or not you feel much bounce as you walk around the unit. Â Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXiceman Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 I talking to Big Foot, it is based on frame size and the resulting stiffness. We have 4 point leveling on our 40' Champagne, but it does have a 14" frame, not a 12". Big Foot is now offering an upgrade to six-point leveling as an add on to our 4-point system for those that feel it will help stabalizing the rig. Â Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Cochran Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 When I bought mine had a 6 point Lippert autoleveler. So far has worked with no problems. Mine is 37 foot Keystone Fuzion. The only complaint or worry so far is when raising or lowering the legs I get the kegs surging like and you get a crick sound as it sits. I have you can take ou a quart of fluid and replace with an additive from Cat that will solve that problem. If I had an option or choice would have went with Big Foot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 We had a 6-point Big Foot auto level system installed on our 36 toy hauler last May. Worth every penny. Big Foot recommended the 6-point be installed on ours because of need to put the rear jacks further back due to the rear door and fuel tank on the toy hauler. This system is fantastic! Â Safe travels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 I for the life of me don't see the benefit in it. Yes if buying new but not an upgrade. Mine is electric and manual stabilizer in rear. Very simple and easy to replace. I can set it up very fast. Now I can't bring tires off the ground but I got a bottle jack for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 (edited) I for the life of me don't see the benefit in it. Yes if buying new but not an upgrade. Mine is electric and manual stabilizer in rear. Very simple and easy to replace. I can set it up very fast. Now I can't bring tires off the ground but I got a bottle jack for that. Ours had hydraulic front legs and electric rear stabilizers, before we had the 6-point Big Foot Auto Leveling System installed. There is simply no comparison in how much easier it is to set up (unhook, hit a button and 2 minutes later it's level), how much more solid the stabilization, and with the key fob I simply have to hit the button and our toy hauler goes back to the same height we unhooked from. Setting up a tripod under the king pin is a thing of the past. After having one, I no I would never own another RV without it. Safe travels. Edited December 3, 2015 by Sniper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remoandiris Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 I for the life of me don't see the benefit in it. Yes if buying new but not an upgrade. Mine is electric and manual stabilizer in rear. Very simple and easy to replace. I can set it up very fast. Now I can't bring tires off the ground but I got a bottle jack for that. Â Agreed. I have the 6-pt Level Up on my current 5er (forced option) and ordered it on my previous 5er. Did not have it on my first 5er. Â The vast majority of sites are level enough that 2x12s under the tires on one side can level the coach and it takes less than 10 min to do it. Â This is just another system that can go wrong. Happened to me twice on my previous coach, once in the middle of nowhere. The system has choked a few times on my current coach, but a quick removal and replacement of the inline fuse resets the "brain". Â Is it convenient? Yes. Is it a "must have"? IMO, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Â Agreed. I have the 6-pt Level Up on my current 5er (forced option) and ordered it on my previous 5er. Did not have it on my first 5er. Â The vast majority of sites are level enough that 2x12s under the tires on one side can level the coach and it takes less than 10 min to do it. Â This is just another system that can go wrong. Happened to me twice on my previous coach, once in the middle of nowhere. The system has choked a few times on my current coach, but a quick removal and replacement of the inline fuse resets the "brain". Â Is it convenient? Yes. Is it a "must have"? IMO, no. So I'll express the opposite opinion. I've had Bigfoot on four 5ers since 2003. I would never own a rig without them. They are far more convenient and allow changing a tire very easily. I agree they are not "required"...in fact, very few of the items in an RV are "required". Mostly they are a convenience. And at least in my case they are a"required" convenience. Â In Glenn's case, since he moves very infrequently, I can see why he feels they are not needed. But for those of us that move around more they are VERY convenient, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KodiakJack Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Our rig has the 4 place Level Up system. Seems plenty stiff. Super fast and convenient for all the reason already mentioned. Will never have another rig without one. Later, J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 I have independent jacks on front, crank down stabilizers in rear. Honestly after I get loose from truck, in less than 10 minutes we are level. The dually causes me more time due to having to lift so high to unhook. That will soon be over!!! I know ya'll push a button but mine is simplicity, simple, and I can fix it easily when it gives trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Greg Posted December 3, 2015 Report Share Posted December 3, 2015 Isn't it great to have the ability to have or not have RV options to fit everyone's different desires! Ford vs GM vs Ram, MH vs fifth wheel vs travel trailer. Auto levelers vs manual levelers. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remoandiris Posted December 4, 2015 Report Share Posted December 4, 2015 But for those of us that move around more they are VERY convenient, IMO. Â Meh, considering I put ~10K on my rig in 6 months this year, I think that is moving around quite a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pethier Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 Does anyone recognize this leveler controller? Â I want instructions on how to use it. Â I'd go to the net to find the manual, but I don't know what it is. Â The round switch on the upper left of the panel is apparently an on/off switch added by persons unknown. Â IMG_1008 Â Mystery jack system controls. by philethier, on Flickr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERO Maker Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 It looks like that is built in to part of a dash? Is it from a motorhome? If so, I would post it elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 He's got it on multiple sub-forums here, and other sites, as well. Already answered. EqualizerSystems, but this one looks to be well Frankensteined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERO Maker Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 Good job and help Darryl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pethier Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Darryl&Rita said: He's got it on multiple sub-forums here, and other sites, as well. Already answered. EqualizerSystems, but this one looks to be well Frankensteined. Thanks.  I wonder if the original installation was Equalizer Systems.  This is on a 2006 Gulf Stream Conquest Super C built on a Chevrolet Kodiak chassis.  Engine is 8.1L gasoline.  If the original was Equalizer Systems, someone may have put in a completely different control system and mounted the switches in the Equalizer Systems plate just because that plate fit in the Kodiak council. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted September 8, 2018 Report Share Posted September 8, 2018 Quick guess: the switches quit and were replaced with hardware store stock. Without hands on, that's the most likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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