Jemstone Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 After failing to regenerate on my way from Alturas, Ca to the middle of Nevada my 2010 Volvo 730 is sooted up. I have not been able to get a parked regeneration and now the engine is slowly deactivating or something similar. The big triangle STOP is lit. I'm in Hawthorne, Nevada, about 300 miles to a dealership in Las Vegas. I would welcome any ideas, suggestions or even random thoughts on the matter. I'm out of ideas and drinking my woes away with decaf coffee. John McLaughlin 2010 Volvo 730, D13, I-shift, singled and decked 2014 Lifestyle 38' Fifth Wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSeas Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Volvo motor? Any other fault codes? Do you have the Volvo 800 service #? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemstone Posted October 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 I called the Volvo 800 number. The Volvo tech I spoke with said the truck was ok to drive, but it would slowly shut itself down till 5 mph is top speed. The closest service is Las Vegas, about 300 miles from here. One trick the Volvo tech mentioned that drivers use to fool the truck is pulling the negative on the batteries for 30 minutes. Sounds a bit risky but there maybe circumstances where that could be useful. I think I'm in for a long slow day tomorrow. John McLaughlin 2010 Volvo 730, D13, I-shift, singled and decked 2014 Lifestyle 38' Fifth Wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrknrvr Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 There is a number in the resource guide somewhere for help. Also there should be numbers in the manuals that came with your truck. The help lines are available 24/7 Sorry I do not anything else that would be helpful. Safe Travels, Vern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemstone Posted October 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Sorry MrSeas. No fault codes that I saw. It is a Volvo engine. John McLaughlin 2010 Volvo 730, D13, I-shift, singled and decked 2014 Lifestyle 38' Fifth Wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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beyerjf Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Try a local road service company. When you call them ask them if they can do a forced regen by hooking up a computer program designed for the purpose. Disconnecting the battery for a short period and seeing if the regen will occur is harmless. Give it a try. Jeff Beyer temporarily retired from Trailer Transit 2000 Freightliner Argosy Cabover 2008 Work and Play 34FK Homebase NW Indiana, no longer full time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSeas Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Is it possible the engine exhaust temp isn't high enough to do a regen? There is some truth to removing power to the batteries to reset the computers. Did you go thru your diagnostic screen on the DID to check for codes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemstone Posted October 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Many thanks Jeff. I'd decided to try disconnecting the battery but I didn't realize that a road service company might have a forced regeneration program. I'll set Good Sam's roadside assistance folks to looking for an outfit that might have that service. John McLaughlin 2010 Volvo 730, D13, I-shift, singled and decked 2014 Lifestyle 38' Fifth Wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollytrolley Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 Bummer to be broke-down in Hawthorne ....... but Reno is just over rhe ridge......surely some shop in Reno coud help you........ I have driven your route hundreds of times and the long pull from Hawthorne to Tonopah will likely not be much fun with a plugged system..... In the early 80's I had a twin engine airplane lose a engine near Hawthorne so I landed at the airport and I had a mechanic on the aircraft and he inspected the engine and then smiled and said "well capt.......you landed at the right airport..........with this huge arms depot here surely they will give us enough explosives to get rid of this junker of a airplane........( it was a enticing idea but we eventually fixed the beast and flew on)...... Drive on..........(try the neg fool the computer trick??) 97 Freightshaker Century Cummins M11-370 / 1350 /10 spd / 3:08 /tandem/ 20ft Garage/ 30 ft Curtis Dune toybox with a removable horse-haul-module to transport Dolly-The-Painthorse to horse camps and trail heads all over the Western U S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemstone Posted October 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 I'm rolling the dice today and trying to make it to the Las Vegas Volvo dealer. The Diesel Particulate Filter seems too clogged to regenerate. I bought the truck in March and regeneration has been somewhat difficult for the truck. Normally had to do a parked regeneration. The haul up to Tonopah will be very slow with flashers on. Once in Tonopah I'll be able to seek out one of the many fine truck repair facilities in town. Knowing Tonopah I'll find I'm 50 years too late for the diesel shop. Las Vegas or bust! My money's on "bust". John McLaughlin 2010 Volvo 730, D13, I-shift, singled and decked 2014 Lifestyle 38' Fifth Wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollytrolley Posted October 22, 2015 Report Share Posted October 22, 2015 I'm rolling the dice today and trying to make it to the Las Vegas Volvo dealer. The Diesel Particulate Filter seems too clogged to regenerate. I bought the truck in March and regeneration has been somewhat difficult for the truck. Normally had to do a parked regeneration. The haul up to Tonopah will be very slow with flashers on. Once in Tonopah I'll be able to seek out one of the many fine truck repair facilities in town. Knowing Tonopah I'll find I'm 50 years too late for the diesel shop. Las Vegas or bust! My money's on "bust". Jem, IF you find yourself down to a "crawl" .........if.... you get to Tonopah and you feel you need to park the truck ......I have had great luck with parking at Dougs Auto Body at #1 Depot Street in Tonopah (775) 482-6619 ..........we had a great roll-on recovery of our ole GMC from Goldfield to Tonopah from Cal-Nevada Towing at (775) 359-3700.........the tow-lady was a tiny little lady and she had the ole GMC up on the roll-bed in no time and we were in Tonopah in a jiffy.......Cal Neveda was the Good Sam contractor......... Good luck..... Drive on..........( Regen when needed..........hopefully.....) 97 Freightshaker Century Cummins M11-370 / 1350 /10 spd / 3:08 /tandem/ 20ft Garage/ 30 ft Curtis Dune toybox with a removable horse-haul-module to transport Dolly-The-Painthorse to horse camps and trail heads all over the Western U S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemstone Posted October 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2015 Well, according to Volvo the truck should have slowly lost power, making for a slow drive. The reality was that from doing 60 mph the truck simply shut down about a 110 miles north of Las Vegas. For anyone planning their own break down, try to pick a spot closer to a city. $1,158 later the truck was at the Volvo dealers. I have my finger, legs and eyes crossed hoping the particulate filter is reusable, as the cost of replacement will force us to sell a grandchild. One other note for Las Vegas visitors: Do not stay at the Clark County shooting range RV Park unless you want to actually use the range. Turns out the RV spaces are directly behind the firing line. Once firing starts for the day it continues till 10:00pm. For a shooter this place is the cat's meow. For a non gun person this would a miserable experience. John McLaughlin 2010 Volvo 730, D13, I-shift, singled and decked 2014 Lifestyle 38' Fifth Wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollytrolley Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Well, according to Volvo the truck should have slowly lost power, making for a slow drive. The reality was that from doing 60 mph the truck simply shut down about a 110 miles north of Las Vegas. For anyone planning their own break down, try to pick a spot closer to a city. $1,158 later the truck was at the Volvo dealers. I have my finger, legs and eyes crossed hoping the particulate filter is reusable, as the cost of replacement will force us to sell a grandchild. One other note for Las Vegas visitors: Do not stay at the Clark County shooting range RV Park unless you want to actually use the range. Turns out the RV spaces are directly behind the firing line. Once firing starts for the day it continues till 10:00pm. For a shooter this place is the cat's meow. For a non gun person this would a miserable experience. Jemstone.........what a bummer....sorry to hear about your "computer-scheduled-breakdown"......... It seems a crime of sorts that you had a nice running engine ........until the eco-computer shut it down.......... A friend of mine is a world-class diesel engineer that was consulted for several years and advised regarding advanced diesel emissions but he finally declined to work with the powers-to-be once the draconian computer shut-downs were to be utilized..........simply to unsafe to shut down trucks at the will of a 'regulator-driven-computer-program".............Hugh contended that better and more solutions were at hand but...........not to be.......... Sorry you had a long tow.....thankful that no one was hurt........except your wallet............... Drive on...........(Regen with care.....) 97 Freightshaker Century Cummins M11-370 / 1350 /10 spd / 3:08 /tandem/ 20ft Garage/ 30 ft Curtis Dune toybox with a removable horse-haul-module to transport Dolly-The-Painthorse to horse camps and trail heads all over the Western U S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sclord2002 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Jemstone, Sorry to hear of your DPF woes...too bad you can't just send the bill to the EPA. They sure increased the cost of truck ownership for us. Maybe the Heavy Truck Mechanics union had some influence within the EPA ?. I talked to a trucker with a newer Volvo with DPF and his fleet started cleaning the DPF as a scheduled maintenance item. They bought their own DPF cleaning machine so that they would not have to send the filters out to be cleaned. I hope you have a good roadside assistance plan...they are cheap insurance when you look at the cost for towing. I hope the filter can be cleaned and you can get back on the road without having to sell any grandchildren. Be safe, Charlie Don't ever tell a soldier that he doesn't understand the cost of war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lappir Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 One more good reason to keep my 2001. Thanks for the info and sorry for your troubles. Rod White 2000/2010Volvo VNL 770 with 7' Drom box with opposing doors, JOST slider hitch. 600 HP Cummins Signature 18 Speed three pedal auto shift. 1999 Isuzu VehiCross retired to a sticks and bricks garage. Brought out of storage the summer of 2022 2022 Jeep Wrangler Sport S Two door hard top. 2007 Honda GL 1800 2013 Space Craft Mfg S420 Custom built Toyhauler The Gold Volvo is still running and being emptied in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G&K Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 If you haven't seen Gregg from RV Haulers DPF cleaning video it's worth a look on YouTube. Apparently his system works great and it really is DIY. You could save a bunch of money but unfortunately won't help this time. ? Geo George,Suzuki Celerio 998cc Yamaha NMAX scooter Work ride is Western Star N2 Tri-Tri tanker at 56,500kg loaded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemstone Posted October 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 Just got a shot at the internet. There is no wifi for the Clark County Shooters RV park, though they do have water, sewer and 30/50 amp. Turns out that the sensor that tells the truck to begin regeneration was faulty and allowed the truck to pack the particulate filter before telling me of the problem. Thus the DPF was plugged to 200% of capacity. We're stuck till Wednesday or Thursday, as the DPF has to be sent out for cleaning. As I always want to know what the costs are I'll post them as they arise. The tow was $1,158 for the 110 mile Las Vegas trip, plus taking the 5th wheel to the Clark Co Shooters RV Park and dropping off the Volvo at the dealership. If the DIY cleaning procedure can be accomplished by a gorilla with limited hand strength, I'll cheerfully try it. I certainly never want to repeat the experience. My plan to sell a grand child fell through due to my children being selfish and unwilling to put their kids on Craig's List, so my new plan is to visit one of the casinos tonight and win back our expenses. What can go wrong? John McLaughlin 2010 Volvo 730, D13, I-shift, singled and decked 2014 Lifestyle 38' Fifth Wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beyerjf Posted October 25, 2015 Report Share Posted October 25, 2015 At least you still have a sense of humor. I am betting they will be able to clean the existing unit and return it to you for a "normal" rate. I see more post 2008 trucks on the hook than old tired ones by a long shot. I think the wrecker associations had something to do with the implementation of the EPA regs. Jeff Beyer temporarily retired from Trailer Transit 2000 Freightliner Argosy Cabover 2008 Work and Play 34FK Homebase NW Indiana, no longer full time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemstone Posted October 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 I have only had problems with my EPA mandated exhaust equipment. The basic truck runs fine. The main problem appeared to be a failed sensor that should have detected when regeneration was needed. I'm eager to see the video on DIY diesel particulate filter cleaning. I don't ever want to do this again. John John McLaughlin 2010 Volvo 730, D13, I-shift, singled and decked 2014 Lifestyle 38' Fifth Wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad & Jacolyn Posted October 26, 2015 Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 John, I sure hope you had road service so you did not have to pay that tow bill. I assume that you do. I was just surprised that you knew how much the bill was. I have used my Coachnet 3 times and have never seen a bill. Brad Brad and Jacolyn Tucker the Wonder dog and Brynn the Norfolk Terrier 2009 Smart "Joy" 2004 VNL630 "Vonda the Volvo" 2008 Hitch Hiker 35 CK Champagne Edition VED12 465 HP, Freedomline, 3.73 ratio, WB 218" Fulltiming and loving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jemstone Posted October 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2015 We have the Good Sam roadside assistance plan. Unfortunately,, I reached a woman who simply could not understand what we needed. I realized we could be stuck for a long time by the time the woman understood we needed a heavy duty tow. I asked if we could submit the bill and be reimbursed and she said we could. I know it's cheaper to have the company arrange the tow, but my wife is expert in negotiating a full refund, regardless of the situation. We have already filed a complaint with Good Sam. We will probably get the maximum payable back. John McLaughlin 2010 Volvo 730, D13, I-shift, singled and decked 2014 Lifestyle 38' Fifth Wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERO Maker Posted October 27, 2015 Report Share Posted October 27, 2015 One more good reason to keep my 2001. Thanks for the info and sorry for your troubles. Rod X 2 Rocky & Sheri Rhoades '01 Volvo 770 2016 DRV Mobile Suites, HoustonHERO Makers Ministry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refuzn-To-Grow-Up Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Jemstone: Sorry to hear about your regen blues. Decaf coffee?? I would be seriously thinking about some other beverage. Anyway, after reading about your regen blues, I have decided to add a couple of cans of this stuff (see link below) to my "tool box." Perhaps this wonder juice would be able to clean up the DPF, just enough to get me to a safer place. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted October 28, 2015 Report Share Posted October 28, 2015 Interesting product, Jim. It likely is similar to what Gregg is using. I wonder if it would be effective on our trucks....volume might be an issue, but for a temporary resolution of the issue it may work. Do you have a source for it? The key is to make sure you are properly servicing the DPF to start with. Regens should happen regularly. If you are getting NO regens you should not ignore the situation. I've noticed at many Volvo dealers a DPF service is around $800. Jack & Danielle Mayer #60376 Lifetime Member Living on the road since 2000PLEASE no PM's. Email me. jackdanmayer AT gmail 2016 DRV Houston 44' 5er (we still have it) 2022 New Horizons 43' 5er 2016 Itasca 27N 28' motorhome 2019 Volvo 860, D13 455/1850, 236" wb, I-Shift, battery-based APU No truck at the moment - we use one of our demo units 2016 smart Passion, piggyback on the truck -------------------------------------------------------------------------See our website for info on New Horizons 5th wheels, HDTs as tow vehicles, communications on the road, and use of solar powerwww.jackdanmayer.com Principal in RVH Lifestyles. RVH-Lifestyles.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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