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Jemstone

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After failing to regenerate on my way from Alturas, Ca to the middle of Nevada my 2010 Volvo 730 is sooted up. I have not been able to get a parked regeneration and now the engine is slowly deactivating or something similar. The big triangle STOP is lit. I'm in Hawthorne, Nevada, about 300 miles to a dealership in Las Vegas. I would welcome any ideas, suggestions or even random thoughts on the matter. I'm out of ideas and drinking my woes away with decaf coffee.

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I called the Volvo 800 number. The Volvo tech I spoke with said the truck was ok to drive, but it would slowly shut itself down till 5 mph is top speed. The closest service is Las Vegas, about 300 miles from here. One trick the Volvo tech mentioned that drivers use to fool the truck is pulling the negative on the batteries for 30 minutes. Sounds a bit risky but there maybe circumstances where that could be useful.

 

I think I'm in for a long slow day tomorrow.

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Try a local road service company. When you call them ask them if they can do a forced regen by hooking up a computer program designed for the purpose. Disconnecting the battery for a short period and seeing if the regen will occur is harmless. Give it a try.

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Bummer to be broke-down in Hawthorne ....... but Reno is just over rhe ridge......surely some shop in Reno coud help you........

 

I have driven your route hundreds of times and the long pull from Hawthorne to Tonopah will likely not be much fun with a plugged system.....

 

In the early 80's I had a twin engine airplane lose a engine near Hawthorne so I landed at the airport and I had a mechanic on the aircraft and he inspected the engine and then smiled and said "well capt.......you landed at the right airport..........with this huge arms depot here surely they will give us enough explosives to get rid of this junker of a airplane........( it was a enticing idea but we eventually fixed the beast and flew on)......

 

Drive on..........(try the neg fool the computer trick??)

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I'm rolling the dice today and trying to make it to the Las Vegas Volvo dealer. The Diesel Particulate Filter seems too clogged to regenerate. I bought the truck in March and regeneration has been somewhat difficult for the truck. Normally had to do a parked regeneration. The haul up to Tonopah will be very slow with flashers on. Once in Tonopah I'll be able to seek out one of the many fine truck repair facilities in town. Knowing Tonopah I'll find I'm 50 years too late for the diesel shop.

Las Vegas or bust! My money's on "bust".

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I'm rolling the dice today and trying to make it to the Las Vegas Volvo dealer. The Diesel Particulate Filter seems too clogged to regenerate. I bought the truck in March and regeneration has been somewhat difficult for the truck. Normally had to do a parked regeneration. The haul up to Tonopah will be very slow with flashers on. Once in Tonopah I'll be able to seek out one of the many fine truck repair facilities in town. Knowing Tonopah I'll find I'm 50 years too late for the diesel shop.

Las Vegas or bust! My money's on "bust".

 

Jem,

 

IF you find yourself down to a "crawl" .........if.... you get to Tonopah and you feel you need to park the truck ......I have had great luck with parking at Dougs Auto Body at #1 Depot Street in Tonopah (775) 482-6619 ..........we had a great roll-on recovery of our ole GMC from Goldfield to Tonopah from Cal-Nevada Towing at (775) 359-3700.........the tow-lady was a tiny little lady and she had the ole GMC up on the roll-bed in no time and we were in Tonopah in a jiffy.......Cal Neveda was the Good Sam contractor.........

 

Good luck.....

 

Drive on..........( Regen when needed..........hopefully.....)

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Well, according to Volvo the truck should have slowly lost power, making for a slow drive. The reality was that from doing 60 mph the truck simply shut down about a 110 miles north of Las Vegas. For anyone planning their own break down, try to pick a spot closer to a city. $1,158 later the truck was at the Volvo dealers. I have my finger, legs and eyes crossed hoping the particulate filter is reusable, as the cost of replacement will force us to sell a grandchild.

 

One other note for Las Vegas visitors: Do not stay at the Clark County shooting range RV Park unless you want to actually use the range. Turns out the RV spaces are directly behind the firing line. Once firing starts for the day it continues till 10:00pm. For a shooter this place is the cat's meow. For a non gun person this would a miserable experience.

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Well, according to Volvo the truck should have slowly lost power, making for a slow drive. The reality was that from doing 60 mph the truck simply shut down about a 110 miles north of Las Vegas. For anyone planning their own break down, try to pick a spot closer to a city. $1,158 later the truck was at the Volvo dealers. I have my finger, legs and eyes crossed hoping the particulate filter is reusable, as the cost of replacement will force us to sell a grandchild.

 

One other note for Las Vegas visitors: Do not stay at the Clark County shooting range RV Park unless you want to actually use the range. Turns out the RV spaces are directly behind the firing line. Once firing starts for the day it continues till 10:00pm. For a shooter this place is the cat's meow. For a non gun person this would a miserable experience.

 

Jemstone.........what a bummer....sorry to hear about your "computer-scheduled-breakdown".........

 

It seems a crime of sorts that you had a nice running engine ........until the eco-computer shut it down..........

 

A friend of mine is a world-class diesel engineer that was consulted for several years and advised regarding advanced diesel emissions but he finally declined to work with the powers-to-be once the draconian computer shut-downs were to be utilized..........simply to unsafe to shut down trucks at the will of a 'regulator-driven-computer-program".............Hugh contended that better and more solutions were at hand but...........not to be..........

 

Sorry you had a long tow.....thankful that no one was hurt........except your wallet...............

 

 

Drive on...........(Regen with care.....)

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Jemstone, Sorry to hear of your DPF woes...too bad you can't just send the bill to the EPA. They sure increased the cost of truck ownership for us. Maybe the Heavy Truck Mechanics union had some influence within the EPA ?. I talked to a trucker with a newer Volvo with DPF and his fleet started cleaning the DPF as a scheduled maintenance item. They bought their own DPF cleaning machine so that they would not have to send the filters out to be cleaned. I hope you have a good roadside assistance plan...they are cheap insurance when you look at the cost for towing. I hope the filter can be cleaned and you can get back on the road without having to sell any grandchildren. Be safe, Charlie

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If you haven't seen Gregg from RV Haulers DPF cleaning video it's worth a look on YouTube. Apparently his system works great and it really is DIY.

 

You could save a bunch of money but unfortunately won't help this time. ?

 

 

Geo

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Just got a shot at the internet. There is no wifi for the Clark County Shooters RV park, though they do have water, sewer and 30/50 amp.

 

Turns out that the sensor that tells the truck to begin regeneration was faulty and allowed the truck to pack the particulate filter before telling me of the problem. Thus the DPF was plugged to 200% of capacity. We're stuck till Wednesday or Thursday, as the DPF has to be sent out for cleaning.

 

As I always want to know what the costs are I'll post them as they arise. The tow was $1,158 for the 110 mile Las Vegas trip, plus taking the 5th wheel to the Clark Co Shooters RV Park and dropping off the Volvo at the dealership.

 

If the DIY cleaning procedure can be accomplished by a gorilla with limited hand strength, I'll cheerfully try it. I certainly never want to repeat the experience.

 

My plan to sell a grand child fell through due to my children being selfish and unwilling to put their kids on Craig's List, so my new plan is to visit one of the casinos tonight and win back our expenses. What can go wrong?

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At least you still have a sense of humor. I am betting they will be able to clean the existing unit and return it to you for a "normal" rate. I see more post 2008 trucks on the hook than old tired ones by a long shot. I think the wrecker associations had something to do with the implementation of the EPA regs.

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I have only had problems with my EPA mandated exhaust equipment. The basic truck runs fine. The main problem appeared to be a failed sensor that should have detected when regeneration was needed. I'm eager to see the video on DIY diesel particulate filter cleaning. I don't ever want to do this again. John

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We have the Good Sam roadside assistance plan. Unfortunately,, I reached a woman who simply could not understand what we needed. I realized we could be stuck for a long time by the time the woman understood we needed a heavy duty tow. I asked if we could submit the bill and be reimbursed and she said we could. I know it's cheaper to have the company arrange the tow, but my wife is expert in negotiating a full refund, regardless of the situation. We have already filed a complaint with Good Sam. We will probably get the maximum payable back.

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Jemstone:

 

Sorry to hear about your regen blues. Decaf coffee?? I would be seriously thinking about some other beverage.

 

Anyway, after reading about your regen blues, I have decided to add a couple of cans of this stuff (see link below) to my "tool box." Perhaps this wonder juice would be able to clean up the DPF, just enough to get me to a safer place.

 

Jim

 

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Interesting product, Jim. It likely is similar to what Gregg is using. I wonder if it would be effective on our trucks....volume might be an issue, but for a temporary resolution of the issue it may work. Do you have a source for it?

 

The key is to make sure you are properly servicing the DPF to start with. Regens should happen regularly. If you are getting NO regens you should not ignore the situation.

 

I've noticed at many Volvo dealers a DPF service is around $800.

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