rbertalotto Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 Stopped overnight at a Flying J and picked up a Trucks For Sale magazine......Thought this might interest some of you HDT folkks... 60 Volvos for sale with 60month / 5 year warrantee..... https://images41.fotki.com/v1661/photos/2/36012/8599305/IMG_20180208_073013909-th.jpg RoyB South of Boston 2021 Dodge 2500 - 6.4L Forest River 19RR Toy Hauler Roofnest Falcon Rooftop Tent www.rvbprecision.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockmup68 Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 It says they "HAD" warranty through 500k/60 months, so end of warranty if I am reading this correctly. 2003 International Eagle 9200i, Cummins ISX, Freedomline 2007 Teton Scottsdale XT4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbertalotto Posted February 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 It says "Had and Have Gold Coverage Warrantee"..........a call would clarify. RoyB South of Boston 2021 Dodge 2500 - 6.4L Forest River 19RR Toy Hauler Roofnest Falcon Rooftop Tent www.rvbprecision.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 It simply means there is a remaining warranty on some of them. GATR is a class outfit, but no dealer would put a Gold warranty on a truck with those miles (and they could not, anyway). It is a remaining warranty. Which is good.....I'm not saying it isn't. Jack & Danielle Mayer #60376 Lifetime Member Living on the road since 2000PLEASE no PM's. Email me. jackdanmayer AT gmail 2016 DRV Houston 44' 5er (we still have it) 2022 New Horizons 43' 5er 2016 Itasca 27N 28' motorhome 2019 Volvo 860, D13 455/1850, 236" wb, I-Shift, battery-based APU No truck at the moment - we use one of our demo units 2016 smart Passion, piggyback on the truck -------------------------------------------------------------------------See our website for info on New Horizons 5th wheels, HDTs as tow vehicles, communications on the road, and use of solar powerwww.jackdanmayer.com Principal in RVH Lifestyles. RVH-Lifestyles.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpsinc Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Thanks Jack. What is preferrable rear ratio for HDT usage? Marcel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 47 minutes ago, rpsinc said: Thanks Jack. What is preferrable rear ratio for HDT usage? That is an open-ended question. If you search here you will find some opinions. First, you have to determine your desired cruise speed. Next, you have to determine your transmission gearing and if it is OD or direct drive. Torque factors in as well in automated trans.... Then what rpm is acceptable. Then you can worry about if the rear ratio on any particular used truck will work. I can give you some examples of Volvo IShift ratios. Volvo 780 D13 XE 1750 torque I shift OD, 2.67 ratio, 68 mph cruise, 1150 rpm, 12th gear With that setup it will hold 12th in almost all hills in the midwest on the interstate. It occasionally will shift down to 11. Volvo 730 1750 torque 3.55 rear I Shift OD. Cruises 63mph in 12th at 1500 rpm. This truck is set up for mountain work. It pulls almost any mountain hill in 12th. Rarely downshifts even on steep grades at interstate cruise. But it is a burden to drive outside the mountains....noise and fuel economy suffer. You can see the difference. A direct drive might have a 2.40 or less ratio to get a decent 65mph cruise rpm. These are just examples. There is a LOT of variance based on the many factors. There are simulators that will tell you what cruise speed is varying the factors. If looking for a used truck you can make some guesses based on experience, but the best thing is to simply drive the truck. You do have to pay attention to this. We had a customer buy their own truck and they missed the fact the IShift was direct drive. They did not drive it because they were not properly licensed. They were disappointed in the cruise RPM....about 1450 at 65mph. Too high in my eyes. Jack & Danielle Mayer #60376 Lifetime Member Living on the road since 2000PLEASE no PM's. Email me. jackdanmayer AT gmail 2016 DRV Houston 44' 5er (we still have it) 2022 New Horizons 43' 5er 2016 Itasca 27N 28' motorhome 2019 Volvo 860, D13 455/1850, 236" wb, I-Shift, battery-based APU No truck at the moment - we use one of our demo units 2016 smart Passion, piggyback on the truck -------------------------------------------------------------------------See our website for info on New Horizons 5th wheels, HDTs as tow vehicles, communications on the road, and use of solar powerwww.jackdanmayer.com Principal in RVH Lifestyles. RVH-Lifestyles.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sculptor Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 On February 11, 2018 at 1:06 PM, Jack Mayer said: We had a customer buy their own truck and they missed the fact the IShift was direct drive. Hi Jack, can you explain further please? I think this is the first time I've read any reference to direct drive. My Volvo 730 has a D13 with iShift. I think this means it is a gear drive but auto clutch or something like that. It has 2 pedals. It's not an automatic like a car. Going over to the guide now. 🤔🤔🤔 Kevin and June 2013 Volvo VNL 730 D13 Eco-Torque @ 425 Ratio 2.47 2014 DRV 36TKSB3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 Until Jack arrives....... Direct drive refers to the ratio of the highest gear in the tranny. Direct means it's 1/1, straight thru, no reduction or overdrive. This can make a difference, depending on your axle ratio. KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sculptor Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 Ohhh I think I understand. Thanks Rick. Kevin and June 2013 Volvo VNL 730 D13 Eco-Torque @ 425 Ratio 2.47 2014 DRV 36TKSB3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 14 hours ago, Sculptor said: Ohhh I think I understand. Thanks Rick. Yup....it makes a big difference in the final cruise rpm at any speed. Jack & Danielle Mayer #60376 Lifetime Member Living on the road since 2000PLEASE no PM's. Email me. jackdanmayer AT gmail 2016 DRV Houston 44' 5er (we still have it) 2022 New Horizons 43' 5er 2016 Itasca 27N 28' motorhome 2019 Volvo 860, D13 455/1850, 236" wb, I-Shift, battery-based APU No truck at the moment - we use one of our demo units 2016 smart Passion, piggyback on the truck -------------------------------------------------------------------------See our website for info on New Horizons 5th wheels, HDTs as tow vehicles, communications on the road, and use of solar powerwww.jackdanmayer.com Principal in RVH Lifestyles. RVH-Lifestyles.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moresmoke Posted February 13, 2018 Report Share Posted February 13, 2018 19 hours ago, Sculptor said: Hi Jack, can you explain further please? I think this is the first time I've read any reference to direct drive. My Volvo 730 has a D13 with iShift. I think this means it is a gear drive but auto clutch or something like that. It has 2 pedals. It's not an automatic like a car. Going over to the guide now. 🤔🤔🤔 Look at your door sticker. If it says ATO12... You have overdrive. If it is AT12... it is a direct drive transmission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Auberts Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 This chart is from the Volvo brochure on the ishift 2612 transmission that shows gear ratios for overdrive and non overdrive version. 2017 Volvo 780 2017 DRV Houston Smart searching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 That direct trans has nice low reverse ratio. The higher 1st ratio probly makes no issue with rv weights... "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil D Posted February 14, 2018 Report Share Posted February 14, 2018 15 minutes ago, noteven said: That direct trans has nice low reverse ratio. The higher 1st ratio probly makes no issue with rv weights... As installed in the truck, the differences in the reverse and first gear ratios will be irrelevant. The direct drive will be coupled to a much taller (numerically lower) gear in the rear axle, which will make the final drive ratios at every step almost identical to the OD trans coupled to a numerically higher ratio axle. Phil 2002 Teton Royal Aspen 2003 Kenworth T2000 - Cat C12 380/430 1450/1650, FreedomLine, 3.36 - TOTO . . . he's not in Kansas anymore. ET Air Hitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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