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Ok so someone has to be the Debbie Downer so might as well be me.  Just realize that seat belts in a “sideways” position are not very protective in a crash situation which would be the original intent. As a health care professional for forty years, our spinal anatomy will handle forward and backward forces especially at the cervical level much, much better than lateral forces.  Remember in “hangman’s” injuries the mechanism is snapping the neck sideways severing the spinal cord.  I toyed for years adding seat belts to my cab and finally decided the optimal way would be with the dinnete in a stowed position, a back bolster making a couch, then three or four seat belts across with occupants facing forward.  Never did it because grandkids had too many other events than going camping with old folks.  Again just my opinion and folks can do anything they want.  BTW folks always point out class A sofas.  Same situation as I describe, same safety concerns.

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Good points and no question it's not ideal. But no restraints would be worse (and illegal in all states) for the passangers.

We obviously opted for the sideways, belted position for the 3 or 4 times a year we have passengers. 

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14 minutes ago, trimster said:

Good points and no question it's not ideal. But no restraints would be worse (and illegal in all states) for the passangers.

We obviously opted for the sideways, belted position for the 3 or 4 times a year we have passengers. 

Completely understand and no criticism from my end.  

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Well now I understand why the seats do not have belts in them; but then the co-pilot can sleep in the top bunk with the safety netting attached.  Many thanks for the knowledge; need airbags in the back seats.

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23 minutes ago, Cotreker said:

Well now I understand why the seats do not have belts in them; but then the co-pilot can sleep in the top bunk with the safety netting attached.  Many thanks for the knowledge; need airbags in the back seats.

Not sure what happened to my original reply so I'll try again.

The company my daughter worked for had a rule that a truck could not be moved if anyone was in the top bunk.

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1 hour ago, Cotreker said:

need airbags in the back seats.

Better be careful talking about air bags.  I got bruises from referring to my "passenger side air bag."😮

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Assuming anything is better than nothing, and not being under manufacturer sized liability risks, if I had kids in the back, they'd have belts. There's NO regulations regarding how they're installed, which way they face, or how many there have to be. Let your conscience guide you. The only laws on any books is that each passenger seat has to have a belt.

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I just put lap belts in my dinette! Order belts a little longer than you'll think you need.  I attached the belts to the existing bolt holes in the steel under the cushion.  Just remove a screw, and put it through your belt eye mount.  Better than nothing.  

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Cotreker, these are the ones I bought.  I'd get them about 12" longer if I did it again. That way the kids can sit sideways or next to each other.  These work fine for 1 person.  Again, it's better than nothing and getting ejected.

I made the table out of some scrap walnut I had laying around!  I'm proud of it:)

 

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1 hour ago, Tackleberry said:

I just put lap belts in my dinette! Order belts a little longer than you'll think you need.  I attached the belts to the existing bolt holes in the steel under the cushion.  Just remove a screw, and put it through your belt eye mount.  Better than nothing.  

https://photos.app.goo.gl/BE1fcD9aQH4uHd1x6

Nice.  Did you build the table? It looks great.

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On 12/7/2022 at 12:15 PM, SuiteSuccess said:

Nice.  Did you build the table? It looks great.

I built the table with some walnut scraps I had in the shop.  Being a middle school woodshop teacher has its advantages!

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