Chuck Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 First time plugging in engine eater. 2003 Volvo vnl 610. Noticed a minor gurgling sound from passenger side of engine. Is this normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usbusin Posted September 10, 2020 Report Share Posted September 10, 2020 Mine did that. Just the water getting hot around the heater. Quote 2001 Freightliner FL70, Cat 3126b 300hp, 860 lb/ft, 6 speed manual Eaton/Fuller Motorhome body by Transport Designs (37 ft overall) Motorhome Specs and Pictures Our Music Ministry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lappir Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 They sort of percolate to move the warm water out and allow some colder water in. At least the old ones did. Rod Quote White 2000/2010Volvo VNL 770 with 7' Drom box with opposing doors, JOST slider hitch. 600 HP Cummins Signature 18 Speed three pedal auto shift. 1999 Isuzu VehiCross retired to a sticks and bricks garage. Brought out of storage the summer of 2022 2022 Jeep Wrangler Sport S Two door hard top. 2007 Honda GL 1800 2013 Space Craft Mfg S420 Custom built Toyhauler The Gold Volvo is still running and being emptied in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted September 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 What affect does this heater have on the temp of the engine oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 49 minutes ago, Chuck said: What affect does this heater have on the temp of the engine oil? Oil inside the block will be at the same temp as the block, oil in the pan will be at ambient. Want a warmer oil pan, get a magnetic pan heater; Quote I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lappir Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 An induction heater for the oil. Great idea, but what about the condensation that it will cause with the different temperatures. The induction will only heat the oil that is touching the pan and there will be very cold metal above I don't know how warm the oil will get. I had a video of me holding the edge of a metal bowl of boiling water on my induction hot plate stirring around a bunch of "contact lens holders" . Above the boiling water there was virtually no heat in the metal. Rod Quote White 2000/2010Volvo VNL 770 with 7' Drom box with opposing doors, JOST slider hitch. 600 HP Cummins Signature 18 Speed three pedal auto shift. 1999 Isuzu VehiCross retired to a sticks and bricks garage. Brought out of storage the summer of 2022 2022 Jeep Wrangler Sport S Two door hard top. 2007 Honda GL 1800 2013 Space Craft Mfg S420 Custom built Toyhauler The Gold Volvo is still running and being emptied in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted September 12, 2020 Report Share Posted September 12, 2020 Rod, it's not induction, just a simple resistive heater with a magnet to hold it to the pan. Condensation gets taken care of when the engine is up to operating temperature. Most places these get used, the winter humidity is too low for much condensation. Quote I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lappir Posted September 13, 2020 Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 11 hours ago, Darryl&Rita said: Rod, it's not induction, just a simple resistive heater with a magnet to hold it to the pan. Condensation gets taken care of when the engine is up to operating temperature. Most places these get used, the winter humidity is too low for much condensation. Thanks for the clarification. Sometimes I overthink or under think. When using the induction there is no magnetism between the pan and the surface. If I would have thought a bit...... jumping to a conclusion is good exercise though, isn't it? Rod Quote White 2000/2010Volvo VNL 770 with 7' Drom box with opposing doors, JOST slider hitch. 600 HP Cummins Signature 18 Speed three pedal auto shift. 1999 Isuzu VehiCross retired to a sticks and bricks garage. Brought out of storage the summer of 2022 2022 Jeep Wrangler Sport S Two door hard top. 2007 Honda GL 1800 2013 Space Craft Mfg S420 Custom built Toyhauler The Gold Volvo is still running and being emptied in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertMiner Posted September 13, 2020 Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 True or false....Volvos’ motor oil pans are non-metallic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moresmoke Posted September 13, 2020 Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 On the topic of warming the oil. If the truck is out of the wind and the block heater is plugged in for a sufficient amount of time (3-4 hrs +) the increased ambient temperature of the engine block will warm the oil in the pan. Generally, if you plug it in overnight, just the block heater is sufficient to give a decent start down to about -20F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenandjon Posted September 13, 2020 Report Share Posted September 13, 2020 On 9/11/2020 at 9:39 PM, Darryl&Rita said: Oil inside the block will be at the same temp as the block, oil in the pan will be at ambient. Want a warmer oil pan, get a magnetic pan heater; These are useless on a 60 series Detroit. The pan is Fiberglass. Quote Farmer, Trucker, Equipment operator, Mechanic Quando omni flunkus moritati-When all else fails, play dead I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance A Lott Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 I use the block heater in my Cummins powered school bus, I only plug it in if it's going below 10 farenheit, then it's on a timer 1.5 hours and you would think it was 75 out. I have started buses at 20 below farenheit without plugging them in, I do not recommend it, the one I am thinking of was an International 444E if memory is not all lost. I use them a lot on the farm tractors about 1 hour and they whip wright over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 On 9/13/2020 at 5:47 AM, jenandjon said: These are useless on a 60 series Detroit. The pan is Fiberglass. Then one would use the epoxy on version. Don't like them personally, but they're available. Quote I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdickinson Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 Here is what I was told in Calgary where it gets plenty cold. Firstly, I put in a frost plug heater and added a magnetic pan heater. The pan heater fell off so maybe the epoxy method would be better. The block heater was marginal as it only heated the water in the general area of where it was installed. I found the answer was a water circulator/heater. It was installed in the lower rad hose. It not only heated the water but circulated it as well and I'm told that would heat the water enough to open the thermostat allowing water to go thru the whole engine. I also put in a small cabin heater behind the seat on the floor. All this was controlled by a 120 v garden time which was set to come on in the early am. I'd go out to a warm truck cab and a truck with a warm engine. 1 - Question, where is the block heater on my D13? I've looked at the schematic but still can't find it. 2 - Question, where can I get a D13 oil dipstick? The plastic hand broke off mine. I have to replace the whole thing including the tube for over 100$. Volvo no longer shows the individual parts available. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 Thermostat controls flow to the radiator. No need for it to open it to circulate within the engine. Warm coolant rises. It draws cold stuff from below, and is self circulating. Don't believe me? Go look at an old Farmall. No water pump. Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porky69 Posted September 15, 2020 Report Share Posted September 15, 2020 Best block heater out there....no plug in required, 7 day programmable timer, only needs 2hrs to have engine at 150* or more....sold at most truck repair facilities/dealers.... Webasto Heater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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