OT: 5er Wheel Alignment

[SuiteSuccess]

My trailer has MorRyde IS 9k axles.  After returning from our 4 k mile round trip, noticed my right rear G114 has inside wear and scalloping. No one in Knoxville, TN area does trailer alignment especially on MorRyde. MorRyde sent me directions on how to align. Is there anyway to do a “shade tree” alignment until I can get it to either Nashville or Chattanooga so I won’t completely destroy another tire?  GeorgiaHybrid apparently has a place I can go  

[HERO Maker]

Welcome to GoodYear Tires on DRV's with problems.  It will be interesting after all this time if it's really a MorRyde issue!

[SuiteSuccess]

5 minutes ago, HERO Maker said:

Welcome to GoodYear Tires on DRV's with problems.  It will be interesting after all this time if it's really a MorRyde issue!

You think it’s a tire issue, not alignment?

[rickeieio]

Barnyard enjinearing........  find a 8' fluorescent light bulb, and put it against the tires, horizontally, at axle height.  It should touch each tire, front and rear.  Roll tires 1/2 revolution and see if you get the same results.

You can do the same thing with a string, if your arms are long enough.

[Darryl&Rita]

I was going to suggest the string line that Rickeieio suggested, but I'd add to pull a string from the back edge of the back tires, forward to roughly the hitch area. Drop a third string line down from the kingpin, then measure out to the lines on the side. A gross issue will be obvious without the 3rd string, but measuring out will confirm dimensions are in spec.

[SuiteSuccess]

Thanks Rick, Rocky, Darryl. 

[Radar274]

I think it is an alignment issue. It has happened to us twice. Each time it was found to be out of alignment.  The first time was the passenger side front axle, it looked similar to yours but was on the outside of the tire.  The tire had 5600 miles on it and the trailer was only 5 months old.  A new tire was needed and an aligned was done by MorRyde.  The second time it occurred at the 21000 mile mark, it effected the drivers side front axle this time.  We are lucky enough to be only one hour from MorRyde and think we are going to have an alignment every 10,000 miles along with the bearing maintenance.  

If there is a spring shop near you they might be able to align it for you.

Good luck Bob

[Radar274]

These axles have both Caster and Camber adjustments

[SuiteSuccess]

3 minutes ago, Radar274 said:

These axles have both Caster and Camber adjustments

Yeah MorRyde sent me their instructions in case I had to take some place unfamiliar with IS.  Will see if I can post when I get to my computer. 

[Chad Heiser]

2 minutes ago, SuiteSuccess said:

Yeah MorRyde sent me their instructions in case I had to take some place unfamiliar with IS.  Will see if I can post when I get to my computer. 

That would be very helpful.  I am starting to look for an alignment shop to take my DRV to and it would be nice to have the instructions.

[rickeieio]

Switch to 16" tires, and they'll never last long enough to notice an alignment issue.💣

[SuiteSuccess]

29 minutes ago, Chad Heiser said:

That would be very helpful.  I am starting to look for an alignment shop to take my DRV to and it would be nice to have the instructions.

Chad,

PM me an email address if you don’t see the instructions posted by tomorrow and I’ll email to you. 

[Chad Heiser]

1 hour ago, SuiteSuccess said:

Chad,

PM me an email address if you don’t see the instructions posted by tomorrow and I’ll email to you. 

Thanks.  I sent you a PM.

[SuiteSuccess]

STATE

SERVICE CENTER NAME

PHONE NUMBER

ADDRESS

CITY

ZIP

AZ

Arizona Alignment Products

602-568-3923

22424 Meade

Buckeye

85326

AZ

RV Care Center

928-763-3301

1535 E. Ramar

Bullhead City

86422

AZ

Spectrac Parts and Services

480-545-5533

405 E. Baseline Rd

Gilbert

85233

CA

All Wheel Alignment & Brake

530-241-1010

18730 Old Oasis Rd

Redding

96003

CA

Tru Line Wheel Alignment

619-258-1800

210 W. Bradley Ave.

El Cajon

93308

CA

East County Alignment

619-562-4110

10741 Woodside Ave.

Santee

92373

CANADA

St.-Laurent Spring, Inc

514-336-1910

1142 St-Amour Ville

St. Laurent, QC

32254

FL

Horton Truck Service

904-388-1488

2525 W. Beaver St.

Jacksonville

FL

Tampa Spring Company

352-690-1656

4225 W. Hwy 40

Ocala

30236

FL

Tampa Spring Company

813-933-2805

8820 Brooks St.

Tampa

52241

GA

Big Mo

770-948-7443

7190 Delta Circle

Austell

61264

IA

Greer Motor Frame & Axle

319-339-4678

2421 James St.

Coralville

52241

IA

Alignment Pros, Inc

712-258-7162

1719 Dace Ave.

Sioux City

51106

ID

Alignment Specialists

208-362-9087

2269 S. Liberty

Boise

83709

IL

Mutual Wheel

309-757-1234

3215 E. 1st Ave

Coal Valley

61240

IL

Bott's Welding Truck Service

815-338-0594

335 N. Eastwood Dr.

Woodstock

60098

IL

Burke Spring & Alignment

271-443-1888

100 E. Ross Lane

Tilton

61833

IN

Burke Spring & Alignment

812-232-5017

45 S. 12th St.

Terra Haute

47807

IN

MORryde International, Inc

574-293-1581

1966 Sterling Ave

Elkhart

46516

KS

Anderson Alignment Center

620-662-7671

725 W. 4th Ave.

Hutchinson

67501

KS

Holland Alignment

620-231-4420

306 E. 5th

Pittsburgh

66762

KS

Mac's Alignment

785-543-6647

47 US 36

Phillipsburgh

67661

MA

Tri State Truck Center

888-874-9120

411 Hartford Turnpike

Shrewsbury

1545

MI

Clyde's Frame & Wheel

248-338-0323

725 Cesar Chavez Ave

Pontiac

48340

MI

Gary's Safety Center

989-892-2013

407 S. Linn St.

Bay City

48706

MI

State Spring & Alignment

616-455-2650

734 Division Ave.

Grand Rapids

49548

MT

D & H Spring Machine & Welding

406-245-3997

826 Wonderpark Dr

Billings

59101

NC

Auto Spring Co

336-723-7001

1323 N. Liberty St.

Winston-Salem

27105

NH

Coastal Truck & Auto Body

603-431-7606

3600 Lafayette Rd.

Portsmouth

03801

NM

J & J Muffler

575-526-4068

1865 S. Valley Drive Law

Cruces

14606

NM

McBrides Spring & Weld

505-242-2174

1010 2nd St. NW

Albuquerque

87102

NV

Ewing Bros Truck & RV

702-382-9261

1400 A St.

Las Vegas

89106

NY

Thru-Way Auto Spring

585-254-6100

1069 Mt. Read Blvd.

Rochester

14606

OR

Henderson's Line-Up

541-479-2882

417 Henderson Lane

Grant's Pass

97527

PA

Point Springs

814-724-7746

11377 Mercer Pike

Meadville

37210

PA

Stanley Springs

717-257-5050

1300 N. Cameron St.

Harrisburg

76110

SD

Soo Alignment

605-582-7588

1204 E. Hemlock Blvd

Sioux Falls

57005

SD

Rapid Tire & Alignment

605-348-2502

1302 E Hwy 44

Rapid City

SD

Linstadt's Alingment

605-892-4776

501 5th Ave

Belle Fourche

TX

McWhorter's Truck Center

806-763-8208

213 N. Ave. U

Lubbock

79415

TX

Ft. Worth Champion Spring

817-332-2115

1117 Henderson St.

Ft. Worth

76102

TX

Ray's Champion Spring

682-350-3119

3336 S. Fwy

Ft. Worth

76110

WA

White Front Shop

509-457-5595

332 S. 1st St.

Yakima

98901

WV

Glotfelty

304-489-4110

Route 14/33 Clinton Ave

Parkersburg

26101

WY

Kelly's Alignment & Brake Service

307-235-7949

515 N. Elk St.

Casper

82601

[SuiteSuccess]

 Independent Suspension System Alignment Guide
  
INTRODUCTION
DESCRIPTION
The MORryde “IS” Independent Rubber Suspension System uses 100% Natural Rubber Springs to support the trailer weight and absorb road shock. By absorbing the shock, the rubber provides a much smoother towing experience than steel leaf springs. With the new MORryde “IS” Independent Rubber Suspension System, there are no more broken leaf springs! The towing is virtually hassle-free with the smoothest towing available for fifth wheels and travel trailers.
The Primary benefits that you can expect from the MORryde ”IS” suspension are:
SMOOTHER TOWING - the MORryde suspension has up to 2 1/2 times the suspension travel of leaf springs or rubber axles, allowing the MORryde suspension to absorb road shock much better.
IMPROVED TOWABILITY - the MORryde suspension is designed to “block” body roll, improving the cornering and stability of the tow vehicle and trailer combination.
AUTOMOTIVE STYLE ALIGNMENT - a MORryde first! You can manage your tire wear through toe and camber adjustments, a feature no other towable suspension offers!
HEIGHT ADJUSTABILITY - the MORryde suspension can be adjusted easily to accommodate different tow heights and to compensate for side-to-side load variations.
PROVEN DURABILITY - the MORryde suspension has undergone strenuous testing to prove it’s durability. The result? No more broken leaf springs!
        U.S. PAT. NO. 5,899,470

ALIGNMENT PROCEDURES
The design of the MORryde Independent Suspension System allows for automotive style toe and camber wheel alignment. This allows the operator of the RV to effectively manage tire wear under normal towing conditions. There are four bolts and one torque bracket per wheel that allow for these adjustment. Refer to the directions below for proper tow and camper procedures.
NOTE: Always adjust the camper first followed by the toe. ALIGNMENT SPECIFICATIONS
Camber (+0.5 degrees to +0.8 degrees) Toe (+0.01 inches to +0.06 inches)
ADJUSTING CAMBER
1. Connect the alignment machine and level the unit on the alignment turntables.
2. Loosen the four torque bracket bolts
3. If the camber is negative, add a shim(s) to the outside of the torque bracket.
4. If the camber is positive, add a shim(s) to the inside of the torque bracket.
5. A 1/4” shim will change the camber approximately 1 degree.
6. Tighten torque bracket bolts.
NOTE: The unit will need to be raised to add camber.
  CAMBER SHIM SPECIFICATIONS
Shims are available in three sizes: 1/4”, 1/8”, and 1/16”
1”
8”
1. Connect the alignment machine and level the unit on the alignment turntables.
2. Loosen the four torque bracket bolts.
3. Adjust the torque bracket assembly to obtain the correct toe readings on the alignment machine.
4. Tighten the torque bracket bolts.
   1/2”
ADJUSTING TOE
   NOTE: Toe adjustments can be eased by the use of a “port-a-power” or large adjustment bar.

TORQUE BRACKET ALIGNMENT
ADJUSTING CAMBER
1. Loosen highlighted bolt and nut assembly.
2. Add shims to the inside or outside of the torque bracket to achieve proper camber alignment.
3. Tighten 1/2” bolts to 60 ft-lbs.
4. Tighten 3/4” bolts to 180 ft-lbs.
ADJUSTING TOE
1. Loosen highlighted bolt and nut assembly.
2. Adjust torque bracket side to side to achieve proper toe alignment
3. Tighten 1/2” bolts to 60 ft-lbs.
4. Tighten 3/4” bolts to 180 ft-lbs.
      

[SuiteSuccess]

17 minutes ago, Chad Heiser said:

Thanks.  I sent you a PM.

Sent

[Radar274]

1 hour ago, SuiteSuccess said:

Thank you for the post

[DesertMiner]

Hey Suite did this tire position suffer from your earlier disc brake failure?

[Sculptor]

For Michigan travelers, I believe Clydes has a very good reputation and several locations.  I have been to http://johnrspringandtire.net for a pickup truck repair once and liked the service and prices. 

[SuiteSuccess]

9 hours ago, DesertMiner said:

Hey Suite did this tire position suffer from your earlier disc brake failure?

No, it was right front.  This is right rear.

[alan0043]

Hi Carl,

I would be curious to know why does the IS system lose it's alignment. Is the rubber parts not holding up ? What is coming loose ?  If you want to get the trailer to the alignment shop, why not just move two tires ? Is the trailer to heavy on that side ?  I am just thinking out loud. Wish you the best.

Al

[SuiteSuccess]

Follow up.  Removed tire and took to my trusted tire shop.  All the old guys agreed was alignment issue, not tire issue.

[HERO Maker]

My alignment shop said it was tire issue and not the alignment!!!!!!

Everybody blames the other!

There has been a lot of discussion on the DOG owners FaceBook page regarding this.  Lots of those guys getting away from GY.

[SuiteSuccess]

40 minutes ago, HERO Maker said:

My alignment shop said it was tire issue and not the alignment!!!!!!

Everybody blames the other!

There has been a lot of discussion on the DOG owners FaceBook page regarding this.  Lots of those guys getting away from GY.

Yeah Rocky read those after you pointed me in that direction.  These tires were on my rig when we bought it.  Going to get realignment and then replace that tire with a Sailun and use as spare.  On my last trailer when I replaced G114s , went with Hankook and really liked that tire.  But will probably go with Continental or Michelins when I replace.

 

 

[alan0043]

21 hours ago, SuiteSuccess said:

Yeah Rocky read those after you pointed me in that direction.  These tires were on my rig when we bought it.  Going to get realignment and then replace that tire with a Sailun and use as spare.  On my last trailer when I replaced G114s , went with Hankook and really liked that tire.  But will probably go with Continental or Michelins when I replace.

 

 

Hi Carl,

My question to you is, why move away from a tire that you liked and it worked ? I am just curious. Why not Sailun ? You are going with the brand as a spare.

Al