Kirk W Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 We dropped our satellite TV several years back and are now considering going back to it. If we do so, then we also want to be able to use it with one of the portable, automatic dish systems when we travel in the RV. So my question is, which service, which portable dish, and what works best together? Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 If you're going DISH, then I suggest a Winegard Pathway X2 with a VIP 211 receiver with one of the Monthly Programming Packages. This gets you a single-tuner HD receiver (not a DVR). The X2 is an automatic antenna that can pick up all of DISH's sats. SKP #79313 / Full-Timing / 2001 National RV Sea View / 2008 Jeep Wrangler Rubiconwww.rvSeniorMoments.comDISH TV for RVs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Heiser Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 If HD is important to you, then Dish is your only choice. You can't get HD with Direct TV on a dome. 2009 Volvo 670 with dinette/workstation sleeper - Walter 2017 DRV Mobile Suite 40KSSB4 with factory mods, dealer mods and personal mods - now in the RV graveyard 2022 DRV Full House MX450 with customized floor plan 2018 Polaris RZR Turbo S (fits in the garage) 2016 Smart Car (fits in the garage or gets flat towed behind the DRV when the RZR is in the garage) My First Solar Install Thread My Second Solar Install Thread & Photos and Documents Related to the build My MX450's solar, battery and inverter system - my biggest system yet! chadheiser.com West Coast HDT Rally Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 If you're only planning to use the sat service while staying in your TT, then the Dish "Flex" month-to-month service with a Wally or VIP211 series receiver and the Pathway X2 may be the best choice. The upside is that you can start and stop the service as needed with no long term contract. The downside is that you must buy your own receiver. The automatic dome would not be supplied under contract anyway, so that's a purchase item either way. Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildmandmc Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 dish for the better of the two. was at local casino over night. they have direct. a lot of my fav an local channels not on. because of dispute in paybacks to direct. this seems to happen a lot lately. 2000 Itasca Horizon DP (Got Total During Irma). Vice President of Charlotte County Defenders LE MC http://charlotte.defenderslemc.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 If portable dome and HD is important then its Dish as was stated. Now if you intend on a Traveler mounted on roof either will work. HD is important to us and portable also. So Dish for us. 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted January 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 If you're only planning to use the sat service while staying in your TT, then the Dish "Flex" month-to-month service with a Wally or VIP211 series receiver and the Pathway X2 may be the best choice. The upside is that you can start and stop the service as needed with no long term contract. The downside is that you must buy your own receiver. The automatic dome would not be supplied under contract anyway, so that's a purchase item either way. HD is not a critical factor for us and since going part-time the TV is less important when in the RV so this may be the best answer for us. Buy the equipment and only pay while at home-base. Our little RV is very lacking in places to put the receiver. Keep the thoughts coming as I've been out of this for so long that what used to be no longer applies. Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 If you are wanting HD it is Dish, assuming you really want a portable.....as stated above. I'd use a Winegard Pathway X2 along with a Wally receiver....potentially on the Pay as you go plan. You can add an external hard drive to the Wally and have a nice DVR for a single location. And you will get HD on that sat dish. Also, that dish is larger than some of the others so maintains signal better in challenging conditions - meaning weather and tree branches. Jack & Danielle Mayer #60376 Lifetime Member Living on the road since 2000PLEASE no PM's. Email me. jackdanmayer AT gmail 2016 DRV Houston 44' 5er (we still have it) 2022 New Horizons 43' 5er 2016 Itasca 27N 28' motorhome 2019 Volvo 860, D13 455/1850, 236" wb, I-Shift, battery-based APU No truck at the moment - we use one of our demo units 2016 smart Passion, piggyback on the truck -------------------------------------------------------------------------See our website for info on New Horizons 5th wheels, HDTs as tow vehicles, communications on the road, and use of solar powerwww.jackdanmayer.com Principal in RVH Lifestyles. RVH-Lifestyles.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 HD is not a critical factor for us and since going part-time the TV is less important when in the RV so this may be the best answer for us. Buy the equipment and only pay while at home-base. Our little RV is very lacking in places to put the receiver. Keep the thoughts coming as I've been out of this for so long that what used to be no longer applies. If you're planning to only use it at the home base, I'd suggest a permanently mounted triple LNB dish for the Dish month-to month service. The larger reflector means less rain fade, and since it "sees" all of the sats at once, there's no re-aiming delay when changing channels. The larger dish will also give you more receiver choices, such as the multiple tuner Hopper DVR series. I don't know if the Dish eastern or western arc sats are more suited to your location, but that would only affect which triple LNB was fitted to the dish. Aiming would be a "one and done", so there's no need at all for the automatic dish unless you do plan to travel with the system at some point. Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second Chance Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 If you're going DISH, then I suggest a Winegard Pathway X2 with a VIP 211 receiver with one of the Monthly Programming Packages. This gets you a single-tuner HD receiver (not a DVR). The X2 is an automatic antenna that can pick up all of DISH's sats. X2 - and an external hard drive can be added to the 211Z and other receivers to make a DVR out of it. The fact that the antenna can be carried out a ways from the rig increases the chances of getting an unobstructed view of the satellites if you're on a wooded site. The combo has worked well for us. We have the Flex Pack with locals for about $45/month and it's more TV than we need or should be watching... Rob 2012 F350 CC LB DRW 6.7 2020 Solitude 310GK-R, MORryde IS, disc brakes, solar, DP windows Full-time since 8/2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted January 2, 2017 Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 I recommend buying the larger 211K if you can find one and have the space for it. The 211K has a built-in over the air tuner instead of needing a currently unavailable add-on USB adapter. Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 X2 - and an external hard drive can be added to the 211Z and other receivers to make a DVR out of it. Yes, you'll get a single-tuner DVR which allows you to record an OTA program while you're watching a show on one of the DISH channels (or vice versa). If you can live with these limitations, then you're good to go. SKP #79313 / Full-Timing / 2001 National RV Sea View / 2008 Jeep Wrangler Rubiconwww.rvSeniorMoments.comDISH TV for RVs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirakawa Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Yes, you'll get a single-tuner DVR which allows you to record an OTA program while you're watching a show on one of the DISH channels (or vice versa). If you can live with these limitations, then you're good to go. Technically, it's a dual tuner dvr. You can record an OTA program and a satellite program at the same time. You can even do that while watching a previously recorded program if you wish. It's more than enough dvr for me, as it probably would be for many others who don't spend hours per day in front of a tv. Everybody wanna hear the truth, but everybody tell a lie. Everybody wanna go to Heaven, but nobody want to die. Albert King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanNJanice Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 The reason we went with Dish is to make sure we could get the PAC 12 network, Go Beavs! So, we have Dish + Hopper at home. We just take the hopper with us while on the road, with lots of stuff pre-recorded on it. If/when we are able to do more camping we will probably get a carry out satellite dish. 2015 F250 PSD 2015 Jayco Jayflight 27RLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch_12078 Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 None of the automatic dome Carry Out/Tailgater style dishes will work with the Dish Hopper series receivers. Either a tripod mounted multiple LNB dish or a roof mounted Wingard Trav'ler is required. Dutch 2001 GBM Landau 34' Class A F-53 Chassis, Triton V10, TST TPMS 2011 Toyota RAV4 4WD/Remco pump ReadyBrute Elite tow bar/brake system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted January 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 It sounds as though dish is the only one to consider. Yes, you'll get a single-tuner DVR which allows you to record an OTA program while you're watching a show on one of the DISH channels (or vice versa). If you can live with these limitations, then you're good to go. We rarely have recorded any show but that might change if we go back to Dish. The other big deal is to be able to use the same equipment in the home-base stick house and in the travel trailer on the road. Thanks for all of the advice. We are still considering what we will do. Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chirakawa Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 It sounds as though dish is the only one to consider. We rarely have recorded any show but that might change if we go back to Dish. The other big deal is to be able to use the same equipment in the home-base stick house and in the travel trailer on the road. Thanks for all of the advice. We are still considering what we will do. I have the DISH VIP211K with DVR capabilities. I've never had much interest in recording programs, only do when a one time event is on while I have to be somewhere else. However, I find the DVR functions very valuable. If you've watching a program and have to do or go somewhere else for a few minutes (like someone knocks on the door, a bathroom break, to tend to cooking, etc.) you can just pause the DVR and return later and continue. Also, if you're momentarily distract and are not sure of what you just saw or heard, you can go back and see it again. The DVR is constantly recording what you're watching so as to give you that capability. DVR is great for sporting events. I sometimes will record an NFL game while I'm away from home. I can watch the game later in about 30 to 40 minutes, just by advancing through the huddles and commercials. I very much enjoy the DVR features, yet I don't have a library of recorded programs. I don't think I'd like to not have DVR functionality in the future. Everybody wanna hear the truth, but everybody tell a lie. Everybody wanna go to Heaven, but nobody want to die. Albert King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark and Dale Bruss Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 We record everything we are going to watch so we have the flexibility to watch when we want not when it is on the air. Please click for Emails instead of PM Mark & DaleJoey - 2016 Bounder 33C Tige - 2006 40' Travel SupremeSparky III - 2021 Mustang Mach-e, off the the Road since 2019 Useful HDT Truck, Trailer, and Full-timing Info atwww.dmbruss.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zulu Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 It sounds as though dish is the only one to consider. We rarely have recorded any show but that might change if we go back to Dish. The other big deal is to be able to use the same equipment in the home-base stick house and in the travel trailer on the road. If you're going to record, then I'd suggest DirecTV. Unlike what others have said, I don't think that a 211 will cut it as a DVR. Too limited even if you get two 211 receivers. So . . . For any of the DISH multi-tuner DVRs (622, 722, Hopper) you would need to use a rooftop Winegard Travler (~ $1200 + installation) or a portable tripod that you would have to manually aim. That can be a PITA. On the other hand, though a DirecTV DVR would not be HD, a DirecTV DVR can be used with a not-so-expensive portable automatic dish like the King Controls Quest. Also, I think a DirecTV HD receiver can be used with the Quest (though you wouldn't get HD while camping). This way you should be able to take your house DirecTV HD receiver on the road. However, ask the folks with DirecTV to be sure. SKP #79313 / Full-Timing / 2001 National RV Sea View / 2008 Jeep Wrangler Rubiconwww.rvSeniorMoments.comDISH TV for RVs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKRITTER Posted January 9, 2017 Report Share Posted January 9, 2017 First figure out what you want at home, then use the same company in the RV. For us we have Dish at the house and had had it for several years after getting into a fight with Direct TV over something. We went to CW and bought a 211Z and a Tailgater. We hooked all of it up in the driveway and didn't like the signal from the Tailgater (compared to the house) so we took it back and exchanged it for a Winegard Pathway X2 and it worked very well. We also bought the over the air adapter and added a hard drive to it. Over all it worked very well as long as you wanted to watch one satellite at a time. Last spring I bought a Wingard Trav'ler and mounted it on the roof of the trailer and now use our Hopper when we travel. It's just like being home. If you are interested in the Pathway and 211 please PM me, I'll make you a deal. 2013 Newmar Dutchstar 4318 2019 F150 KR 4X4 BlueOx 10K Tow Bar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitty77_7 Posted January 10, 2017 Report Share Posted January 10, 2017 Another option is either Direct or Dish for the home, and then Sling'ing (Like a Slingbox 500) your shows via broadband connection while traveling. This assumes you have a broadband data connection that as your traveling, and that is not always the case:)! (Streaming in 480 will use quite a bit less data then HD or even now a days 4K. We know one couple that do this with Direct. They have ULD via Verizon, and usually stay in places where 4G and or LTE are available. For times that they don't have the bandwidth. They carry two or three DVD's of programs that they want to watch multiple seasons of. (We passed on the first 5 years of Downton Abbey to them.). Best to you both, Smitty Be safe, have fun, Smitty 04 CC Allure "RooII" - Our "E" ride for life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
297550 Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 We use a Winegard Trav'ler for our HD DIRECTV. The big deal for me is the NFL package. I get to see MY team play every time. Otherwise there is probably very little difference between the two. 2017 KZ Durango Gold 381REF, 8K morRYDE IS, Disc brakes, 17.5" Hi Spec Aluminum Wheels w Goodyear G114 H rated tires 2016 F350 King Ranch DRW, 3.73, 4x4, Super Duty Crew Cab, 6.7L Powerstroke Diesel. 26,760 CGVW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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