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This is one of those "it depends" answers. Generally speaking, I prefer a single "all-in" price for RV parks with basic services. I'd rather not have to navigate a menu of 30 amp vs. 50 amp, cable TV or not, sewer or not, questions.

 

However if it is a "resort" type of park with golf, workout rooms, swimming pools, etc., I would rather not pay for expensive amenities that I have no intention of using.

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In my experience I have seen extras such as 50A power, a pull-through site, and premium sites, but I've not heard of any parks with an "ala-carte" amenities selection. Generally the parks with more such services cost more at least for the longer term stays, but many of them do have a nightly rate that doesn't include the services and programs offered the longer term visitors. I see two problems with that approach. The first is that I doubt very much that you would find many customers willing to do this and the second part is that it would be an administrative nightmare for the park management. How would they ever know who had paid for what, and how to keep out those who didn't pay for a particular activity or event.

 

Short answer, I don't think that customers or management would like that operation.

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I got to thinking about this after reading comments about having to pay extra for things that were not included in the initial site charge, and comments made about having to pay for things that they didnt intend to use. Looked like there is no way to keep everyone happy.

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We have stayed at a number of public and private campgrounds that give you a choice between sites with no hookups, water/electric, water/electric/sewer or water/electric/sewer/cable tv. What you get and the rate you pay is determined by what is provided at the site you choose. The same is often true with 30amp versus 50amp. You pay for what is available at the site although I have been charged the 30amp rate when on a 50amp site because the trailer only has a 30amp service.

 

I know of one RV park that we have stayed at a number of times that has cable tv at every site, but only charges if you want to use it. I have noticed a number of individuals hookup after the office closes and unhook early in the morning, so I suspect cheating the system does occur. The only amenity that I regularly encounter a choice for is Wifi. It is pretty easy to control access, so I suspect cheating is minimal and there is no infrastructure required at each site so it is easier to offer to only those that want it.

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Site amenities yes. Everything around the park probably not. I guess cable could be controlled. As far as wifi I've been to many parks that have it but I yet to be able to use it with any great success so I don't bother.

It's like the BS "resort fees" that hotels and even some camp grounds charge now for frivolous things that I've never used that pads their bottom line.

 

James

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I have noticed a number of individuals hookup after the office closes and unhook early in the morning, so I suspect cheating the system does occur.

 

Really? That is some bullshit right there. I tend to mind my own business, but I'd politely tell the owner/manager who I see doing this crap. Friggin thieves piss me off.

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Really?

Yes really, and I don't sit around watching what other people do, but do walk the dogs after dinner and first thing in the morning. I am always on the lookut for loose dogs or one picketed outside an RV. You might be amazed at what goes on when folks think no one is watching. I've been yelled and cursed at for not giving out the dump station lock combination at a campground near I-70 in IN. A Casino in NM use to allow free overnights in their parking lot, they also had a campground. You checked into the campground at the Hotel Registration Desk. They got tired of the folks staying in the parking lot pulling into the campground and using the connections to dump and fill. They now prohibit overnights in the parking lot and have a staffed office at the entrance to the campground and have more frequent security patrols at night.

 

I personally would like to choose what services I want to use and pay for, but I think it would take a computerized system to turn the outlets at each site on and off to be efficient and effective. We have stayed at a County park in KS where they give you a key to unlock the electric box if you want power at your site.

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The problem I have run into with managing parks, is the kind of atmosphere it creates when I have had to police, for example. whether or not a person who has paid for 30 amp is using the 50 amp instead. I have worked in campgrounds where the owner locked the 50 amp unless it had been paid for. I see the "hassle" value of one price for a 30 amp, one for 50 amp. If you want that site, you have to pay that price. You pay for the site, not what you want to use.

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You pay for the site, not what you want to use.

I have seen that in lots of places. My only complaint with it is when only the 50 amp sites have the good views or are level or whatever. Since my rigs tended to be 30 amp ones I resented being delegated to second class as far as amenities went unless I paid for electricity I didn't need.

 

Linda Sand

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The one thing I have noticed are folks washing their rigs early in the morning before pulling out when NO WASHING OF VEHICLES ALLOWED signs posted and the same boldly written on the park map/rules.

 

We're happy with WES and 30 amp is fine for an overnight.

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We have stayed at a number of public and private campgrounds that give you a choice between sites with no hookups, water/electric, water/electric/sewer or water/electric/sewer/cable tv. What you get and the rate you pay is determined by what is provided at the site you choose. The same is often true with 30amp versus 50amp. You pay for what is available at the site although I have been charged the 30amp rate when on a 50amp site because the trailer only has a 30amp service.

To this extent, I very much agree as that is true in many parks but I don't think that it is what Fulltimer51 had in mind, or at least that wasn't how I took the question. I took the question to mean paying extra for using things like a swimming pool, recreation room, pet walk, and various other amenities.

 

It is actually very common for parks both public and commercial to have an extra fee for 50A service, longer sites, and even in some cases for premium sites with a better location. Parks that have sites with no hookups usually charge less for those and some also have a tenting area that costs less. I can't remember ever being in a park that had a swimming pool or recreation room that cost extra to use.

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I can't remember ever being in a park that had a swimming pool or recreation room that cost extra to use.

I've been in parks that charge extra for swimming if you bring guests but not for residents of the park. I've been in parks that charge extra for the recreation room if you want to host a private event there or for a park event if they were offering live music or providing food. I've been in parks that charge extra for golf or mini-golf or any game where they supply the equipment. I've been in parks that charge a fee for craft classes. I've been in parks that charge to play Bingo. Parks can charge for anything they think people would be willing to pay for. I'm generally not willing to pay for those extras because I'm not that social but many people do. I think it takes a pretty big park to get enough people to pay for extra things, though, because I've been in parks with 200 sites where only 30 or so people turned out for an event. Which is why I think smaller parks would do better to have an all-inclusive price; you are more likely to get people there who want to be included.

 

Linda Sand

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