rickeieio Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 As the title says, I need to put 6- 4 1/2" holes in 3/16" plate for tail and reverse lights on my bed. Last time I did this, I used a plasma cutter with barely acceptable results. My options seem to be: plasma, reciprocal, or hole saw. If I use the hole saw, I think using a correct sized hole in a plate as a guide would help keep the hole true to size. Any other suggestions? I'm not good enough with a torch to go that route..........And Georgia Hybrid, I'm not good enough with a .45 either. Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 Holesaw uses a pilot bit so should stay true. I would use a torch but I am a professional with one. Also have a circle burner for a torch Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 Cheap circle burner. Weld a washer to a rod sized to fit torch tip. Weld a short rod sharpened on end to a 1/4' pipe nipple. Drill and tap a 1/4" hole for a set screw. Slide it on rod. Place on torch. Adjust to hole needed. Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted August 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 I have a circle guide for the plasma. Holes were still a bit rough. I would think a torch, in my hands, would just as bad or worse. Hole saw does have a center bit, which gradually makes the center hole a little bigger as it wallers (farmer speak) around. Result, hole not round. I have the old mounting plate for the factory lights, which I'll re-use. I might clamp that plate to the sheet steel as a guide. Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 A plasma should be a fairly clean hole. Nothing a file shouldn't clean up. Tip good? Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spindrift Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 Call Ranch Hand, or similar manufacturer. Ask them how they do it. Quote 2012 F350 KR CC DRW w/ some stuff 2019 Arctic Fox 32-5MCindy and Tom, Kasey and Maggie (our Newfie and Berner) Oh...I forgot the five kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 They likely punch them out. They make tool for that. Too costly for one time use Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 Did ours with a laser. Also expensive. Use a plasma or torch, slightly undersize, then grind to the line with a pencil grinder. Quote I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moresmoke Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 If the plate is still loose or better yet you don’t have it yet, find a shop with a laser table. When I hire parts cut, it typically doesn’t cost much more than the steel costs me. If it is already part of the bed, take your hole saw and cut a hole through a piece of 3/4 plywood. Clamp the plywood to the plate and you will have a guide to hold the saw in the right spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted August 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 I'm going to get a hole saw and try it on a piece of scrap. If that doesn't suit me, I'll break out the plasma. Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 Don't forget, there's a pretty good lip on the rubber mounting ring for the lights that will help hide all but the worst of errors. Quote I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr. cob Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 Howdy Rick, Using the plywood as a guide is a darn good idea, however using a hole saw to cut that size hole in 3/16" steel is going to take a good heavy duty drill to drive it and a high quality hole saw that will probably be dull when the job is done, that's a lot of metal to be removed and a cheap hole saw ain't gonna do it. If you try it with a cheap hole saw it will get dull and work harden the steel, this will knock the edge off of the good hole saw you will buy to finish the job, cheaper to spend the money on a good hole saw to begin with, take my word on this, been there, done that. Dave Quote 2001 Peterbilt, 379, Known As "Semi-Sane II", towing a 2014 Voltage 3818, 45 foot long toy hauler crammed full of motorcycles of all types. Visit my photo web site where you will find thousands of photos of my motorcycle wanderings and other aspects of my life, click this link. http://mr-cob.smugmug.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve from SoCal Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 If you do use a plasma torch make a template and keep the torch at the same angle. Plasma at least hand held plasma torches are real sensitive to angle on thicker material. They also don't pierce cleanly, start your cut inside the circle and ramp into the radius. The mention of good tip is another big thing with plasma, a worn tip and consumables will be frustrating at best. A hole saw at that diameter could be a wrist breaker in a hand held drill, use a slow speed. At that size I would rather use a jigsaw. Quote 2005 Peterbilt 387-112 Baby Cat 9 speed U-shift 1996/2016 remod Teton Royal Atlanta 1996 Kentucky 48 single drop stacker garage project Pulls like a train, sounds like a plane....faster than a Cheetah sniffin cocaine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted August 30, 2021 Author Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 Went to the hardware store this morning, and they only had cheap hole saws. This store used to carry good stuff, but they're now sitting between a Home Depot and a Lowes. Quality suffers. So, at $36 for a cheap saw, it's $6/hole, if the thing lasts that long. Plasma to rough it out and a hand grinder to finish. I can use the original light mounts for the template, making for less grinding. I used to buy my metal cutting blades from this same store. They handled the 8" Milwaukee blades. No more. Now the best they have is 7 1/4" Irwin. They don't last very long....... Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted August 30, 2021 Report Share Posted August 30, 2021 I have found this true on the last few jobs I have been on. Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpsinc Posted September 6, 2021 Report Share Posted September 6, 2021 I certainly have seen the overall quality of abrasives decline over the last 10 years. We are all pretty much responsible for it. We want the best quality for the cheapest price and those lines rarely cross. And with the advent of CNC machines, either tables or mills, the work you are doing is done less and less, so less demand for those types of abrasives(hole saw). Finding good quality grinding and cutting wheels is more difficult. I have used Metabo Slicers and Slicer Plus for many years. They dont seem to work as long as I remember. But perhaps that is a ME issue, not a they issue. In any case, the cost for consumables continues to increase for all my projects. Quote Marcel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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