GlennWest Posted April 15, 2021 Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 On my last trip we stopped at a rest stop to stretch our legs and bathroom break. Went to fire up the ole freightshaker and it turned slowly but hard. Like plenty of juice but too much load. Tried again same. Waited a short time and then spun good. Done same a few years ago and I assumed weak batteries. Changed them. All had been good. All my batteries connections are good. Went over that while in Huntsville. Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas Teacher Posted April 15, 2021 Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 I get the same thing every time I go over to the inlaws to start mine too. I throw the battery switch and it sits for about 2 weeks between starts. I don't know what is wrong. I was wondering if I had a bad fuel pump or if fuel took a while to get back to the cylinders after sitting dorman? Later, Cory O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steiny93 Posted April 15, 2021 Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 Slow crank can be from - reduced juice to the starter - bad starter - increased load on the starter Typically it is batteries or connections. I have had starters behave in this manner when they get hot (crank slow when hot but fine when cold). Just got rid of a supercharged jeep that was horrible for this, it ate starters like tic tac's; but with all the exhaust work done to it their wasn't a great fix available. Vegas, a hard crank will not be impacted by fuel delivery. Rather a fuel delivery issue could cause an extended crank. (Assuming fuel delivery didn't flood the cylinders with fuel) Quote 2000 volvo 6102013 cyclone 3950 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas Teacher Posted April 15, 2021 Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 1 hour ago, steiny93 said: Slow crank can be from - reduced juice to the starter - bad starter - increased load on the starter Typically it is batteries or connections. I have had starters behave in this manner when they get hot (crank slow when hot but fine when cold). Just got rid of a supercharged jeep that was horrible for this, it ate starters like tic tac's; but with all the exhaust work done to it their wasn't a great fix available. Vegas, a hard crank will not be impacted by fuel delivery. Rather a fuel delivery issue could cause an extended crank. (Assuming fuel delivery didn't flood the cylinders with fuel) Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted April 15, 2021 Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 Glenn if you have or can get your hands on a clamp meter check the amps on the battery cable as close as possible to the starter while someone turns the key. Lots of amps but poor cranking rpm starter is suspect. Low amps suspect cable or connection (ground). When you say your under hood was at operating temperature means the starter was warm too makes me suspect the starter. Heat reduces magnetic wave efficiencies... Ive been wrong 1000 times before 😃 Quote "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted April 15, 2021 Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 Cables can be bad internally. Feel if the cable is getting hot. If so, do the amp reading at both ends. I've had to replace cables that looked fine on the outside, but when split open were green and crunchy. Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyretired Posted April 15, 2021 Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 A volt meter reading the voltage at the battery and at the starter while cranking is another way to determine bad cables. If the cables are bad the high resistance will cause much lower voltage at the starter. Quote Randy 2001 Volvo VNL 42 Cummins ISX Autoshift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted April 15, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 Have to get a clamp on meter. I suspect starter but wiring could be corroded inside. Spins great normally. Thanks guys. Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray,IN Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 First is your starter 12 or 24VDC? I would not spend money to purchase ($100)an inductive amp meter for the starter, I'd just rent one for a day. I mean it's not like you'll use it every month, then it turns into something else that overfills your toolbox. Quote 2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD, ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA ." And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy 20 Jan 1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted April 16, 2021 Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 Do as Randyretired suggested. Any cheap volt meter will be fine. Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted April 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Ray,IN said: First is your starter 12 or 24VDC? I would not spend money to purchase ($100)an inductive amp meter for the starter, I'd just rent one for a day. I mean it's not like you'll use it every month, then it turns into something else that overfills your toolbox. 12v. Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray,IN Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 Have you tested cranking amp draw yet, both cold and hot conditions? Quote 2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD, ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA ." And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy 20 Jan 1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted April 17, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 No, I'm working 12 hour days now. Have to wait till some time off. Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpsinc Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, GlennWest said: No, I'm working 12 hour days now. Have to wait till some time off. Well, at least you are back to work. That break you had had to be a challenge to your life plans. Quote Marcel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydrvr Posted April 17, 2021 Report Share Posted April 17, 2021 Really glad you're back to work. Hopefully, you can get back on track and catch up. Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted April 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2021 Yes, being off for a year really hurt my plans. This is a good company and should be back at it soon. Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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