mrrrl2 Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 Both are 2013 730 about the same price, but there are some differences that I'm not sure really make much difference. I included the Volvo Code for some in parentheses. Let me know if you think that the differences on #2 make it that much better. #1 Has: D13 425HP Eco-Torque 2100RPM 1750/1450 LBFT EPA10 (But dealer has stated this is been reprogrammed to 500HP) 505k Mileage 229 Wheelbase 2.47 Rear end Light Weight Package (924001) Not really sure what this is. Electronic Viscous Fan Clutch (208025) Both Driver & Passenger have National Comfort Air Susp W/Back Cycler Non Cancelling Turn Signals (Really?) #2 Has: D13 455HP Eco-Torque 2100RPM 1750/1550 LBFT EPA10 440k Mileage 233 Wheelbase 2.47 Rear end EPA Smartway Compliant Fuel Economy Package (927001) EPA Smartway (B2BA1x) Kysor On/Off Fan Clutch (208021) Hill Start Assist Transmission Eco-Roll, Enabled in Stalk Position "A" Volvo Transmission Eco-Roll Control, Stalk (Part of above) Comfort Seat, Suspension (32G8) (Driver side I am guessing) National Seat (35D1) Both have Trans Performance Mode with auto return to economy. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 It is really the case of 6/one half dozen of the other. There are some things I like on both, but I seriously doubt both are in identical condition. I'd choose based on mechanical condition and condition of the interior and body. Only then would I consider the other elements. Not to say the other things might not be important to you. The first truck has higher hp (which will cost you to bring the second up to) and the electronic fan, which I happen to like. The lightweight package is not really needed in an RV application. The hill start assist and the eco roll, plus lower miles in the second lean me towards that. Although I'm surprised the first does not have ecoroll. Most XE trucks do. Both trucks have low miles for a 2013. I'd want to understand why, but if they were regional haulers than that would be pretty normal. And most 730s are regional haulers of some sort. I'd buy towards the second truck if both were in identical condition. But either would be a nice ride. Jack & Danielle Mayer #60376 Lifetime Member Living on the road since 2000PLEASE no PM's. Email me. jackdanmayer AT gmail 2016 DRV Houston 44' 5er (we still have it) 2022 New Horizons 43' 5er 2016 Itasca 27N 28' motorhome 2019 Volvo 860, D13 455/1850, 236" wb, I-Shift, battery-based APU No truck at the moment - we use one of our demo units 2016 smart Passion, piggyback on the truck -------------------------------------------------------------------------See our website for info on New Horizons 5th wheels, HDTs as tow vehicles, communications on the road, and use of solar powerwww.jackdanmayer.com Principal in RVH Lifestyles. RVH-Lifestyles.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 .... "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIBERNUT Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 Both trucks same trans ? We all have preferences but if one is red, it'd be dead for me. Good luck, they both seem nice. I'm with Jack on #2, mostly the mileage and the fact it has NOT been juiced up. 2000 Volvo 635 A/S, N-14 Cummins"The Phoenix"'03 KA 38KSWB http://s918.photobucket.com/user/sibernut/library/?sort=6&page=1Furkids- Sibe's CH. Sedona & Tseika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaHybrid Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 Like everyone else above, if the second truck has not been abused, it would be my first choice. The hill start and mileage is a plus on it. The first truck is spec'd with the lightweight package and a lot of the guys in this area get that package with 38K tandems on the rear instead of the usual 40K. I would ask about the axles under the front and rear of each truck in addition the other specs you noted. I am assuming they both have IShift trannies. By the way, I ordered our new truck with non self canceling turn signals. Having to make an "S" maneuver or a gentle turn will cancel the them while you are still in another lane. It's not that big of a deal and I can decide when they go off. 2017 Kenworth T6802015 DRV 38RSSA Elite Suites2016 Smart Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffw Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 Our truck does not have self-canceling turn signals and it's not really a big deal. 2007 Volvo 780 Volvo D12D, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdickinson Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 About 1k to add cancelling turn signals I was told a few years ago. I'd prefer them unless there was a loud flasher to remind me. But why should I bother, no one signals anymore so why should I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hone eagle Posted March 1, 2017 Report Share Posted March 1, 2017 Our truck does not have self-canceling turn signals and it's not really a big deal. Bet they are illegal in some places ,I remember a discussion on a trucker board. 2005 volvo 670 freedomline singledNewmar Torrey Pine 34rskswoot woot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castlewood57 Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 I'll join the chorus on the second one, unless the first one has some absolutely incredible values you want.. I'd be wondering why they had it bumped to 500HP, extra heavy loads? Someone doing a bit of racing? Finally I'd try to see if you could get access to repair records on either one, more information counts quite a bit. Happy Hunting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaHybrid Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Bet they are illegal in some places ,I remember a discussion on a trucker board. So let me guess, you get arrested if yours break? Non self canceling turn signals are a 50 state option on a new KW. I doubt that would be possible if self canceling turn signals were required by law. 2017 Kenworth T6802015 DRV 38RSSA Elite Suites2016 Smart Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrrl2 Posted March 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 A bit more information. Both have iShift. #1 Was a gain hauler 13,200 front Axle 38k rear axles Located at RDO Truck Center Fargo, ND Build Date: 02/24/2012 In Service Date: 03/30/2012 Waiting answer on maintence records I know some members have purchased from RDO and have been pleased with their results. #2 Hauled dry van trailers 13,200 front axle 38k rear axles Located at Dave Syverson Truck Centers in Albert Lea, MN Build Date: 08/15/2012 In Service Date: 09/21/2012 They have no maintenance records Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrap Posted March 2, 2017 Report Share Posted March 2, 2017 Non self canceling is a required KW 'option'.....Good thing it is free. They only do self canceling in medium duty. SmartWay is important for resale if there is a goal to resale back to commercial. No CA for a 2012 truck without SmartWay (commercial). A grain truck is going to be at full GVW anytime it is loaded. That is the name of the game to stay in business. But it is only loaded half the time, so how that plays into future life left I have no idea. I bet truck #1 has hill start assist, just not advertised. Look for a dash switch. It would be weird to order one without. The viscous fan is the answer to not making dust when going slow in dry places. It is able to elevate fan speed to just enough as required by the condenser (and idle EGR to a lesser degree) and not have to go full on. Same goes for on the road. It can do just enough to cool what is needed, can modulate through the EGR surge, and can ramp up and down instead of going full speed. Keeps things quieter and saves fuel. If most of your dust is caused while backing up it isn't going to do much for that. Pretty much any fan drive is going to go full on as long as you are charge air cooled. It is retrofittable so you can put it on a 2010+ if it doesn't have it, so not a total loss if purchased truck doesn't have it. http://www.hortonww.com/en-us/products/repair,replace,upgrade,retrofit/modulatorretrofitpackage/modulatorretrofitecm.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrrrl2 Posted March 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Scrap thanks for the info. #1 does not have Hill Assist. I have the build sheet for three of RDO's trucks (730) and none have it. Also just found out #1 was smoked in so I dropped that one, but they have another more, but the next cheaper one has all the same above but only 505k mileage. Next one after that is at 486k, then 426k, then 401k. Of course price goes up about 2k each step. The issue I have with #2 is they have no maintenance history at all, they state they are a Volvo dealer so I would think if the truck was serviced at a Volvo dealer it would show up. Not sure what SmartWay is, but I do intend to take off commercial hitch and make a bed. Also planning on keeping it for awhile. I suspect once I am done I would be selling to an up and coming HDT owner. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis M Posted March 3, 2017 Report Share Posted March 3, 2017 Mine is non-self canceling on the left side only The DW has to remind me since the repeater does not work on that side either and I cannot hear it! Sorry, couldn't resist jumping in! Dennis & NancyTucson, AZ in winter, on the road in summer.1999 Volvo 610 "Bud" 425 HP Volvo, Super 10 spd.2005 Mountain Aire 35 BLKS2013 smart fortwo CityFlame riding on Bud(Replaced '05 smart first loaded in '06 and '11 smart that gave it's life to save me!)Our Travel Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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