NoDirectionHome Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 Am I correct in thinking that most wheelbase numbers in TruckPaper are steer axle to rear axle as opposed to steer axle to middle of tandems? "There are No Experts, Do the Math!" 2014 Freightliner Cascadia DD16 600hp 1850ft-lb 18spd 3.31 260"wb SpaceCraft S-470 SKP #131740 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted August 5, 2015 Report Share Posted August 5, 2015 With Truck Paper, it's anyone's guess. Most SHOULD be to middle of tandems, but call to confirm. The web-posters often aren't skilled in identification, and sales staff aren't always skilled in web. I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 As Darryl said, it is usually to middle of tandem. Almost always. But on the other hand, the entire ad is often full of bad info. It may not even have a single thing in it that represents the truck they actually have. Jack & Danielle Mayer #60376 Lifetime Member Living on the road since 2000PLEASE no PM's. Email me. jackdanmayer AT gmail 2016 DRV Houston 44' 5er (we still have it) 2022 New Horizons 43' 5er 2016 Itasca 27N 28' motorhome 2019 Volvo 860, D13 455/1850, 236" wb, I-Shift, battery-based APU No truck at the moment - we use one of our demo units 2016 smart Passion, piggyback on the truck -------------------------------------------------------------------------See our website for info on New Horizons 5th wheels, HDTs as tow vehicles, communications on the road, and use of solar powerwww.jackdanmayer.com Principal in RVH Lifestyles. RVH-Lifestyles.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIBERNUT Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Tandem is traditionally to CL of tandem, but to CL of rear axle on a single. Of course, that goes out the window if your primary language is not "English"............... 2000 Volvo 635 A/S, N-14 Cummins"The Phoenix"'03 KA 38KSWB http://s918.photobucket.com/user/sibernut/library/?sort=6&page=1Furkids- Sibe's CH. Sedona & Tseika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix2013 Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 ........................ You have to be smarter than the sales person. Often times that's not that difficult. The ads in Truck Paper are not scrutinized or edited for accuracy or truth, buyer beware! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDirectionHome Posted August 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 I called the dealer to confirm. The other "tough to get an accurate answer" is lockers. The dealers don't know the difference between an inter-axle and a differential lock. Saaaaddd "There are No Experts, Do the Math!" 2014 Freightliner Cascadia DD16 600hp 1850ft-lb 18spd 3.31 260"wb SpaceCraft S-470 SKP #131740 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted August 6, 2015 Report Share Posted August 6, 2015 Search for a post I made about an 84T that was actually a 64T. Truck Paper listed it that way. 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyretired Posted August 7, 2015 Report Share Posted August 7, 2015 Stekay, Many people don't know what airlockers are. I have told people my truck has airlockers and often the response is all trucks have that. Most salesman don't have a clue but they usually get the color right. Randy 2001 Volvo VNL 42 Cummins ISX Autoshift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Wright Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 As a newbie trying to educate myself I've notice that same thing. Gen1's Volvos labeled as Gen2's and vice versa. 420's, 430's, 610's, 630's, 660's, 670's often mislabeled. Most of the trucks called 4x2 or 6x2 are really 6x4. 'Automatic' trucks that clearly show a manual floor-mounted shifter. It makes a guy leery of the rest of the description. I was looking for 6x2 trucks because it seemed they would be easier to single 'short' but everyone I looked at were 6x4s. Are these type pretty rare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDirectionHome Posted October 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Yes, they are rare, except in Europe. They are just gaining popularity here in MY2016 trucks. "There are No Experts, Do the Math!" 2014 Freightliner Cascadia DD16 600hp 1850ft-lb 18spd 3.31 260"wb SpaceCraft S-470 SKP #131740 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 I think the confusion really starts when a RV HDT'er calls a truck place and calls his 5th wheel a "hitch" and then tells the stupid salesman he has a toilet in his 5th wheel ... "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 As a newbie trying to educate myself I've notice that same thing. Gen1's Volvos labeled as Gen2's and vice versa. 420's, 430's, 610's, 630's, 660's, 670's often mislabeled. Most of the trucks called 4x2 or 6x2 are really 6x4. 'Automatic' trucks that clearly show a manual floor-mounted shifter. It makes a guy leery of the rest of the description. I was looking for 6x2 trucks because it seemed they would be easier to single 'short' but everyone I looked at were 6x4s. Are these type pretty rare? Hi Stan Wright - you are correct the 6x2 "dead axle tandem" fuel economy configuration is relatively new in the North American fleet. Axlewise singling would be easier because the drive axle is already a "single" with no power divider to connect the driveline to the rear axle... "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrap Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 The early ones were around 2000 or so but were on a bunch of aluminum framed daycabs. The 11,000 lb trucks were impressive but probably not something y'all would be interested in. Then two major fleets coerced them out of everybody around 2009-2010. "Mainstream" for it didn't really happen until 2012-ish when E-Trac came along. Finding an Advantage T680 (the one with no fairing step and the curved side extenders) increases the chances of finding one as it was part of the package in some cases. The red oil seal on the RR axle in the pics is the giveaway. I know there are quite a few ProStar's were 6x2's as well. The two fleets that started it didn't buy it in their most recent orders so I don't know if it is heading back out again or if interest will continue on it. Time will tell I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted October 2, 2015 Report Share Posted October 2, 2015 Looks like MHC Kenworth has T680's for sale on Truck paper with 6x2 configuration. "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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