CrazyCooter Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 If I park in the shop on a perfectly flat concrete surface, I notice it will take days to empty. On my rough gravel side driveway it drops much faster. I suspect the cab height valve, but t is a pretty expensive item considering...... 1999 Peterbilt 385 C12 430/1650 13spd 2006 Dodge 3500 DRW 4x4 2010 Hitchhiker Champagne 36 LKRSB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Both of our leveling valves (Cab and rear suspension) leak slowly if the trucks isn't parked level. Those will be next month... spent this months quota already.... LOOK! Shiny Stuff! Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refuzn-To-Grow-Up Posted August 26, 2015 Report Share Posted August 26, 2015 Go to the dealer and get the replacement parts for the push in connector. There is an "0-ring" and a brass collet that are replaceable. The O-ring is a greenish-blue color Here are the Volvo part numbers: 1/4 O-ring 85108484 price $0.48 (each) come in a bag of 10 1/4 brass collet 85108476 price $ 2.86 (each) 3/8 O-ring 85108485 price & 0.56 (each) come in a bag of 10 3/8 brass collet 85108477 price $ 3.10 ( each) 1/2 O ring 85108486 1/2 brass collet 85108475 To replace the parts is pretty straight forward. Please release all the air pressure in your system before attempting this repair! 1. Depress collar on fitting and remove line. 2. Remove brass collet. I use a pair of needle nose pliers. 3. Remove O-ring. Sometimes a bit of a challenge. I use a set of " dental picks" one straight and one with a 90" bend at the end. Use the picks to remove the O-ring. Most times it will be dry rotted and come about in prices. Make sure to remove all of the pieces. Insert new O-ring and be careful not to damage it. 4. Insert collet. Most times I will use the old one if it is still in usable shape. Most times the o-ring is the cause of the leak. 5. Trim off the end of the line before inserting into the "rebuilt" fitting. I like to do this when ever I have enough slack in the line. Sometimes it's not possible. When inserting the line into the fitting press the line in until it "bottoms" out in the fitting before you pull back on it to lock it in. 6. Pressure up your system and check for leaks. Sometimes a little wiggle on the line after it is pressurized will help it seat. After this less costly repair attempt you may still have to repair/replace your pass-thru. Good luck! On Edit: These instructions were written with the "Newbie" in mind.... Lots of folks have already been down this path. Not trying to get anyone upset. This is how I do this type of repair. No need to buy the "gold plated" Volvo brass fittings if I can just repair it. In most cases the "fitting" is fine it's just a worn out O-ring. Yesterday, I stopped at Volvo with the above "shopping list" and, I walked out with ten O-rings (each size) and two collets (each size). It cost me about $30. The parts guy asked what they were for and what I was doing. When I told him, he said that he never had anyone fix air leaks that way. He thanked me for the new information. Thanks Mr. Seas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted September 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2015 Well replaced O-rings and collets per Mr. Seas recommendations and really was pretty easy job. Trouble is that I still have a leak at that green line. Not as bad as before though so just gonna accept it for now. BTW used new line, O-ring, and collet so don't have plan b. Also I bought O-ring removal pick and ten foot of green line if anyone needs help at rally. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHIEFWAHO Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Ordered and received some O-rings and collets, time to track down some leaks. Instead of running the truck to build up the air, can the tanks be filled from this Schrader valve? The Schrader valve is just above the yellow hose 90 degree fitting. I didn't want to just hook up the air hose chuck to it and screw something up. 1999 Volvo VNL610, Cummins M11 - 350/400 HP, 10 speed Rockwell - 'CHIEF' Custom flatbed with TrailerSaver air hitch. 3 cyl 8000 watt Kubota diesel generator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Yes, you can fill it that way. I usually do mine like that. Jack & Danielle Mayer #60376 Lifetime Member Living on the road since 2000PLEASE no PM's. Email me. jackdanmayer AT gmail 2016 DRV Houston 44' 5er (we still have it) 2022 New Horizons 43' 5er 2016 Itasca 27N 28' motorhome 2019 Volvo 860, D13 455/1850, 236" wb, I-Shift, battery-based APU No truck at the moment - we use one of our demo units 2016 smart Passion, piggyback on the truck -------------------------------------------------------------------------See our website for info on New Horizons 5th wheels, HDTs as tow vehicles, communications on the road, and use of solar powerwww.jackdanmayer.com Principal in RVH Lifestyles. RVH-Lifestyles.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted September 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Yes, you can fill it that way. I usually do mine like that. Is that his air governor? Where would that valve likely be on my 2006 Volvo (my air governor sits drivers side on the firewall)? 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Mayer Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Not all trucks have the valve. But it is usually on the governor. Jack & Danielle Mayer #60376 Lifetime Member Living on the road since 2000PLEASE no PM's. Email me. jackdanmayer AT gmail 2016 DRV Houston 44' 5er (we still have it) 2022 New Horizons 43' 5er 2016 Itasca 27N 28' motorhome 2019 Volvo 860, D13 455/1850, 236" wb, I-Shift, battery-based APU No truck at the moment - we use one of our demo units 2016 smart Passion, piggyback on the truck -------------------------------------------------------------------------See our website for info on New Horizons 5th wheels, HDTs as tow vehicles, communications on the road, and use of solar powerwww.jackdanmayer.com Principal in RVH Lifestyles. RVH-Lifestyles.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad & Jacolyn Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Someone mentioned removing the kick panels and that got me to thinking. That pass thru manifold has lines attaching to it from both sides so there must be O rings on both sides of the manifold. I may have to replace O rings on that side also. Can't hear anything yet but I'll bet they are leaking also. Something else to check. Brad Brad and Jacolyn Tucker the Wonder dog and Brynn the Norfolk Terrier 2009 Smart "Joy" 2004 VNL630 "Vonda the Volvo" 2008 Hitch Hiker 35 CK Champagne Edition VED12 465 HP, Freedomline, 3.73 ratio, WB 218" Fulltiming and loving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big5er Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Carl, if you have one it is on the governor. Here is a picture of mine....from that Christmas day when it didn't wanna build air...aww shucks, I had to stay in the campground one more day. "Hey Sarge, guess what??" It should look just like yours. MY PEOPLE SKILLS ARE JUST FINE.~It's my tolerance to idiots that needs work.~ 2005 Volvo 780 VED12 465hp / Freedomline transmission singled mid position / Bed by Larry Herrin2018 customed Mobile Suites 40KSSB3 2014 smart Fortwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted September 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Carl, if you have one it is on the governor. Here is a picture of mine....from that Christmas day when it didn't wanna build air...aww shucks, I had to stay in the campground one more day. "Hey Sarge, guess what??" It should look just like yours. Thanks Phil. I looked at my air governor pic and it is just like yours. Learn something new everyday. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCooter Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Just learned about the governor on Saturday morning stranded at the camping spot not building air.....no phone service and in the middle of nowhere. Did a quick Mexican rebuild on it and got back on the road till I got a new one at Napa! 1999 Peterbilt 385 C12 430/1650 13spd 2006 Dodge 3500 DRW 4x4 2010 Hitchhiker Champagne 36 LKRSB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exile Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Just learned about the governor on Saturday morning stranded at the camping spot not building air.....no phone service and in the middle of nowhere. Did a quick Mexican rebuild on it and got back on the road till I got a new one at Napa! Good skills there, what did you do to fix it? 98 379 with 12.7 DD LG Dodge w/5.9 CTD Chrome habit I’m trying to kick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSeas Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 That's a "must have" in everyone's spare parts kit. One of the "cheapest" parts on a HDT but it can leave you stranded! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCooter Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Good skills there, what did you do to fix it?I just pulled it apart, cleaned, and greased it. Only had 120 mile left on our 1,200 mile drive where we got to a town where we could get parts and repair at leisure. The orings were pretty hard and squared off. For $18 I don't think I would bother with putting new orings in the old one to use for a spare. 1999 Peterbilt 385 C12 430/1650 13spd 2006 Dodge 3500 DRW 4x4 2010 Hitchhiker Champagne 36 LKRSB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big5er Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 CC, mine left me stranded Christmas morning. Luckily I was still in the campground. I learned the hard way to carry a spare. I was just impressed with the people on this forum that took time away from family to help me diagnose the issue..... on Christmas morning. MY PEOPLE SKILLS ARE JUST FINE.~It's my tolerance to idiots that needs work.~ 2005 Volvo 780 VED12 465hp / Freedomline transmission singled mid position / Bed by Larry Herrin2018 customed Mobile Suites 40KSSB3 2014 smart Fortwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyCooter Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Almost all of my air brake repair experience has been on trailers so I had no experience to diagnose the problem. Couldn't disconnect the 5er, unload the UTV, and run for help.....so I had to make an educated guess......mine was mounted on the compressor, so easy place to start! I see many of yours are remote mounted.....that would not be so obvious. Had tools to r&r, but no snap ring pliers to disassemble. Managed to get it apart and back together without stabbing my fingertips with pointed objects! Not much in there to go bad other than two orings. Before I left was thinking about a plumbing repair kit, but got busy and forgot. Have belts, fluids, and will be adding a new governor to the box of spares. Hard to justify carrying stuff you will never need though. Is this an item that fails a lot? Or is it just because of our older high mileage trucks? 1999 Peterbilt 385 C12 430/1650 13spd 2006 Dodge 3500 DRW 4x4 2010 Hitchhiker Champagne 36 LKRSB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big5er Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 The way it was put to me is that they fail. They will shut you down when it happens (as you and I discovered, at very inopportune times) and for $20 having a spare is too easy. Kinda like having a few connectors, some air hose, a belt and some tools....just things to have on hand. $20 peace of mind. Of course, if you have a spare one, you will probably never need it MY PEOPLE SKILLS ARE JUST FINE.~It's my tolerance to idiots that needs work.~ 2005 Volvo 780 VED12 465hp / Freedomline transmission singled mid position / Bed by Larry Herrin2018 customed Mobile Suites 40KSSB3 2014 smart Fortwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asross72 Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Yes, you can fill it that way. I usually do mine like that. Is that it's actual purpose, or just a benefit? 2007 Volvo 880 2014 Palomino Sabre 36qbok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted September 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Is that it's actual purpose, or just a benefit? I'm not Jack but I think it's purpose is to be able to fill the air tanks so the spring brakes/trailer brakes can be released and will function. That way a tow truck can hook up air supply to your truck if being towed and not have to cage all the brake cans. Also if any maintenance requires air, the truck does not have to be left running to keep the tanks full. I might be wrong so someone will correct me if so. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refuzn-To-Grow-Up Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 I'm not Jack but I think it's purpose is to be able to fill the air tanks so the spring brakes/trailer brakes can be released and will function. That way a tow truck can hook up air supply to your truck if being towed and not have to cage all the brake cans. Also if any maintenance requires air, the truck does not have to be left running to keep the tanks full. I might be wrong so someone will correct me if so. If I add air through the schrader valve, via my shop compressor, does the shop air have to be run through a filter and a dryer? Or, is the schrader valve before the truck's drier? I do not want to contaminate my air system with "dirty" air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSeas Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Good question Jim.....it is "after" your dryer.....so precautions should be taken to keep out moisture and contaminants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Refuzn-To-Grow-Up Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Good question Jim.....it is "after" your dryer.....so precautions should be taken to keep out moisture and contaminants. I guess the next question is what drier (or how much money to spend) to buy? . I suppose I could buy the same drier/filter that is used in the Volvo and, keep it as a spare. Or . . . . any other suggestions? I can see wet and dirty air playing havoc with the air system controls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 I would think that any small desiccant air filter would be fine. You just want to remove water and other fluids- oil- from the compressed air. Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERO Maker Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Yes, just check your hardware store. Rocky & Sheri Rhoades '01 Volvo 770 2016 DRV Mobile Suites, HoustonHERO Makers Ministry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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