GlennWest Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) Been pricing romex and roughly $7.00 a foot for 6/3. I can buy 30' 50amp extension cords for little over $150.00. Edited November 30, 2022 by GlennWest Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat & Pete Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 I think you meant to say ROMEX and It's likely over 7 bucks a foot . That's way over 200 bucks for 30 feet , without any ends applied . Amazon has a Camco 30 foot 50 amp complete extension cord for about 130 bucks . https://www.amazon.com/Camco-Extension-PowerGrip-Convenient-Carrying/dp/B0024ECIP0 Anyway , I carry a 65 foot 50 amp extension . I've used it more than enough to make it worthwhile . Quote Goes around , comes around . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted November 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) Oh sorry i wasn't plain. I want to use it for wiring not extension cord. Just finding it cheaper than romex. But I am finding better prices by the rolls. Edited November 30, 2022 by GlennWest Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyretired Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 Glenn, there is no way I would tell you to do that. However, I have been known to do that. Romex is often used in RV's but it is a solid wire that can not withstand flexing and is not really best suited for RV's. The extension cords are usually stranded and more flexible. Probably better suited for RV's but not necessarily designed for that. Quote Randy 2001 Volvo VNL 42 Cummins ISX Autoshift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat & Pete Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 4 hours ago, GlennWest said: Oh sorry i wasn't plain. I want to use it for wiring not extension cord. Just finding it cheaper than romex. But I am finding better prices by the rolls. I see . From a previous thread , you want to relocate your electric service connect point ? I used a UF type wire/cable when I rewired the power to the front section of our Monaco . That was about 11 years ago and there's never been any sign of malfunction . Quote Goes around , comes around . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D&J Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 35 minutes ago, Randyretired said: Glenn, there is no way I would tell you to do that. However, I have been known to do that. Romex is often used in RV's but it is a solid wire that can not withstand flexing and is not really best suited for RV's. The extension cords are usually stranded and more flexible. Probably better suited for RV's but not necessarily designed for that. #6 Romex is stranded wire not solid, strands are bigger than in Romex but it's still stranded and it's what is used on almost all RVs from the rec to the panel. Quote Denny & Jami SKP#90175 Most Timing with Mac our Scottie, RIP Jasper our Westie 2013 F350 SC DRW 6.2 V8 4.30 Gears 2003 HH Premier 35FKTG Home Base Nebraska Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted November 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 14 minutes ago, Pat & Pete said: I see . From a previous thread , you want to relocate your electric service connect point ? I used a UF type wire/cable when I rewired the power to the front section of our Monaco . That was about 11 years ago and there's never been any sign of malfunction . Uf might easier to get in between some of the places we have to in rvs. It's flat Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 If you use it, I suggest that you solder the ends where it connects into solid wire for an inch or so. That will prevent the strands from separating as they are tightened by screw connections. Quote Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyretired Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kirk W said: If you use it, I suggest that you solder the ends where it connects into solid wire for an inch or so. That will prevent the strands from separating as they are tightened by screw connections. Ferrules also work for that. Good suggestion Kirk. Quote Randy 2001 Volvo VNL 42 Cummins ISX Autoshift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted November 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) Got ferrule kit all the way up to #2. Edited November 30, 2022 by GlennWest Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyretired Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 NM-B is a little cheaper than UF Quote Randy 2001 Volvo VNL 42 Cummins ISX Autoshift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted November 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 31 minutes ago, Randyretired said: NM-B is a little cheaper than UF Just checked lowes and Home depot and costs more Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldjohnt Posted November 30, 2022 Report Share Posted November 30, 2022 (edited) Glenn, sorry I'm late I've been on the road much of the day. As always you raise good questions and remember I'm long retired from power distribution plus things have changed, but FWIW here are my suggestions: NOTE Im talking about additions and alterations below NOT whats already there 1) For RV use I would NOT advise using solid conductor wiring (regardless of insulation/ jacketing) due to all the shake rattle n roll and vibration. Stranded is much more flexible with greater vibration resistance. SURE solid will still "work" its just that I prefer more flexible and more vibration tolerant stranded wire in RV's. DO AS YOU PLEASE ITS YOUR RV YOUR MONEY..even if sold wire works. 2) If you insist on using sold core wiring I would make all splices inside grounded metallic junction boxes ESPECIALLY if you splice (I prefer solder plus compression or possibly WAGO if available for your wire size) solid to stranded wire. I do not like using wire nuts when splicing stranded to sold wire which is why I suggest solder plus mechanical or consider WAGO connectors PROVIDED suitable and approved for the wire you are using ! 3) If you insist on using sold core wire I would use/install a vibration loop prior to entry into any appliance or junction box. Splices in junction boxes (I prefer metal and grounded) need to be in readily accessible locations NOT hidden away !!!!!!!!! As you can tell by now in all the shock n vibration encountered in an RV I just prefer more flexible stranded wiring (even if sold can work). Marine grade wiring is another option yet may be more expensive. When you consider all the expense you already have and how RV's are constructed, I would not go cheap when it comes to a bit more wiring and even if sold works consider more flexible wiring methods YOUR MONEY YOUR CHOICE Best wishes Glenn take cadre be safe John T Live from Davis Bayou in Ocean Springs MS Edited December 1, 2022 by oldjohnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted December 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2022 Oh not going cheap on wire.i don't know numbers with wire except size. I would not want #6 solid period. Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpsinc Posted December 1, 2022 Report Share Posted December 1, 2022 Is there any possibility to use conduit, perhaps running under the belly and some THHN?? Quote Marcel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted December 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2022 Going under belly would be impractical on mine. Straight down from my breaker box is reachable from my storage compartment. Can run wire overhead of storage right to inverters. Same where I plan to relocate receptacle for utility connection Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldjohnt Posted December 1, 2022 Report Share Posted December 1, 2022 40 minutes ago, GlennWest said: I would not want #6 solid period. Good idea when adding or modifying RV wiring. Flexible vibration loops really help when entering appliances or junction boxes etc. John T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D&J Posted December 1, 2022 Report Share Posted December 1, 2022 I don't know if anyone has really looked but the 120 volt wiring in a RV is solid 12-2 or 14-2 solid Romex and it's been that way for years. Denny Quote Denny & Jami SKP#90175 Most Timing with Mac our Scottie, RIP Jasper our Westie 2013 F350 SC DRW 6.2 V8 4.30 Gears 2003 HH Premier 35FKTG Home Base Nebraska Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted December 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2022 So true. But #12 &14 very easy to run and form. ,#6 not so. Not real bad Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Heiser Posted December 1, 2022 Report Share Posted December 1, 2022 I use Soow cable for all my 6 awg runs of 120/240 volt when I do my installations. It is very flexible and has a very durable sheathing in case anything has to run outside a compartment or enclosed area. Quote 2000 Kenworth T2000 w/ Cummins N14 and autoshift 2017 DRV Mobile Suite 40KSSB4 with factory mods, dealer mods and personal mods - now in the RV graveyard 2022 DRV Full House MX450 with customized floor plan 2018 Polaris RZR Turbo S (fits in the garage) 2016 Smart Car (fits in the garage or gets flat towed behind the DRV when the RZR is in the garage)My First Solar Install ThreadMy Second Solar Install Thread & Photos and Documents Related to the buildMy MX450's solar, battery and inverter system - my biggest system yet! chadheiser.com West Coast HDT Rally Website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldjohnt Posted December 1, 2022 Report Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, D&J said: I don't know if anyone has really looked but the 120 volt wiring in a RV is solid 12-2 or 14-2 solid Romex and it's been that way for years. Denny X2 EXACTLY I can testify that's indeed true in my 50 years of RV ownership !!! For additions or mods like Glenn is considering I like the superior flexibility and vibration tolerance afforded by stranded conductors. Nice chatting with you, best wishes Denny John T 6 hours ago, Chad Heiser said: I use Soow cable for all my 6 awg runs of 120/240 volt when I do my installations. It is very flexible and has a very durable sheathing in case anything has to run outside a compartment or enclosed area. DITTO XT I specified and our shop kept hundreds of foot spools of SOOW cord in stock which my electricians loved using. 6 AWG - Multi-Conductor - 600V - Stranded Conductor - SOOW - Portable Cord | ShowMeCables.com As always nice sparky chatting with you Chad CAUTION AND DISCLAIMER I'm rusty on the latest codes, do NOT know and am NOT saying when and where SOOW Cord is approved by the NEC for use in an RV. If not I advise NOT to use it even if I or anyone has... John T Live from Davis Bayou Camp in Ocean Springs MS Edited December 1, 2022 by oldjohnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted December 1, 2022 Report Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) 15 hours ago, GlennWest said: Got ferrule kit all the way up to #2. It might be overkill, but I would still solder them. Edited December 1, 2022 by Kirk W Quote Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldjohnt Posted December 1, 2022 Report Share Posted December 1, 2022 55 minutes ago, Kirk W said: It might be overkill, but I would still solder them. X2 No harm in overkill (especially with all the shock and vibration in an RV) has been my experience. John T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted December 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2022 5 hours ago, Kirk W said: It might be overkill, but I would still solder them. The ferrule prevents it from flaring out. I crimp it also. Don't see any need in harding wires from soldering. Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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