trimster Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 Looked a 2 trucks this week. One has our eye/interest. I would like some input if possible. http://www.westernidahotrucks.com/inventory/specsheet/?ID=16054470 It's 2014 780, with a D16 500hp, iShift w/over drive, 3.25 rear end, 239" WB. 538,534 miles. I'm getting a RigDigs report to see what that might reveal. This truck is kinda of a cream puff in that it was an Owner Operator, and he bought it with all the features then blinged it out a bit. It looks well cared for inside and out. The dealer in Idaho, has put $3k in fixes. Radiator leak, oil leak, etc. I went over this truck fairly meticulously and found nothing that makes me want to go hummm. We tried to drive the truck today but they could not get it started. 2019 batteries would not take a charge. I think one of them is a gone'er. On Saturday they do not have a yard tech in the sales dept. The price we settled on is $34,000 with our requests taken care of. (hitch removed, air lines pulled, oil and filters) Logistically I need to figure out how to get the computer dump. The are a Freightliner/ Western Star dlr. The Volvo dlr is 20 min down the road in Boise. I think that information will be helpful. I would appreciate any thoughts on the truck configuration... engine, etc. Big thanks Bob Quote Robert & Lisa '14 Keystone Fuzion 315 38' 5er 2015 Volvo VNL 670, D13, iShift 'The Tartis' (ours) 2013 Smart Fortwo Passion 'K-9' 2011 CanAm Spyder RT Limited (Ours) We are both USAF vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertMiner Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 (edited) Do lots of research on the D16. Lots of good info out there! Edited July 25, 2020 by DesertMiner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimster Posted July 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 Where do I start looking? Quote Robert & Lisa '14 Keystone Fuzion 315 38' 5er 2015 Volvo VNL 670, D13, iShift 'The Tartis' (ours) 2013 Smart Fortwo Passion 'K-9' 2011 CanAm Spyder RT Limited (Ours) We are both USAF vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertMiner Posted July 25, 2020 Report Share Posted July 25, 2020 Google, FB, truckers sites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDBirdman Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 Nice looking truck. Quote 2002 Fifth Avenue RV (RIP) 2015 Ram 3500 Mega-cab DRW(38k miles), 6.7L Cummins Diesel, A668RFE, 3.73, 14,000 GVWR, 5,630 Payload, 27,300 GCWR, 18,460 Max Trailer Weight Rating(For Sale) , living in the frigid north, ND. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARGO Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 When you go to the dealer for the "computer dump", be sure the tech or service manager goes over ALL the parameters you can set yourself, not just what you "want". There's LOTS of stuff you might not know about, time to idle before shut down, etc. Get them ALL one shot, same price, they might forget to tell you. Quote You'd have to see the movie to understand.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 I went to the truckers forum. Lots of bad talk about the D16. Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimster Posted July 26, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 Glenn and others... thanks for the heads up on the D16. There seems to be a reason why they stopped delivering D16s in North American. Significant warranty and relighability issues . Outside the US and Canada, they seem to be fine engines. It's the pollution reg compliance that ruined the engine. So we're walking away from a really nice cab and frame with a potential money pit of a motor. We did find a 670 with a workstation (rare) in Idaho Falls. Drove up and looked at it. Not actually what they advertised in some ways. They had the WB listed 30" longer, no fridge and it has one, few other things. The problem is that the salesman is in Boise at Rush's main facility and the truck is hours away at Rush in Idaho Falls...with no real salesman. Truck has 630k, D13, EcoRoll, iShift, 2.6 rear end. Needs: tires, Air filter, oil change, valve cover gasket, oil fill tube seal, water separater filter, crankcase filter, passangers side air seat won't air up (I think the line to it has been plugged off). Fortunately this truck has not been steam cleaned so one can see any leak problems. Nothing major like a front or rear seal, etc. Drive lines are good. Shocks, steering parts, air bags, breaks, are all in good shape. Ext is in pretty good shape. Bit of a chunk missing from the left fairing where you fuel the tank, lots of pitting in the front bumper paint and chrome accents. Headlights need restoring, Windshield has a few chips but nothing that will fail inspection. Drives and shifts fine. The issue with the deal, is getting a computer dump. They would need to move the truck to Boise. Apparently no place in Idaho Falls to get it done. If they balk at that, we walk away I think. I did get an oil sample so that can be run this week IF they will agree to get the computer dump. So we keep looking. Utah (home base) has several but unless I go to Knight truck sales or Penskee, the Volvo dlr wants quite a bit more than what is out there for similar trucks. We'll keep looking. Bob Quote Robert & Lisa '14 Keystone Fuzion 315 38' 5er 2015 Volvo VNL 670, D13, iShift 'The Tartis' (ours) 2013 Smart Fortwo Passion 'K-9' 2011 CanAm Spyder RT Limited (Ours) We are both USAF vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beemergary Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 Go to Truckersreport.com lots of good info from some old guy truckers not so much steering wheel holder types. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sculptor Posted July 26, 2020 Report Share Posted July 26, 2020 18 hours ago, trimster said: Where do I start looking? This site is a great place for information mixed with opinions. This is a good thing. I highly recommend the search, even though the results can be overwhelming. These folks began with older model Volvo’s but you have probably figured out Jack has been repurposing Volvo’s and continues to do so http://www.jackdanmayer.com/ The history and learning of 2 well known HDT owners http://www.dmbruss.com/index.html Also ^^^ I see a lot of chatter on a Facebook group called Volvo Truck Masters. Not so much on choosing a used truck there. Maybe another group? Quote Kevin and June 2013 Volvo VNL 730 D13 Eco-Torque @ 425 Ratio 2.47 2014 DRV 36TKSB3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdickinson Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 Go to RDO Trucks in Fargo, talk to John Stearns if he's still there. Several others have purchased there. D16 had injector cup issues. Go with the D13. You can expect the injector harness to need replacing, at least on years prior unless they've fixed that issue. They will do a complete printout and cleanup and checkout of the truck. I was also told they could single it as well. Bring up their site, location, used trucks, make, year. Mine is an 09 and still running strong, a tad over 500k miles. Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sculptor Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 On 7/26/2020 at 11:36 PM, rdickinson said: Go to RDO Trucks in Fargo, talk to John Stearns if he's still there. Several others have purchased there. jbs@rdotc.com Quote Kevin and June 2013 Volvo VNL 730 D13 Eco-Torque @ 425 Ratio 2.47 2014 DRV 36TKSB3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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