53wlee53 Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 We were in Collingwood Ontario in September and saw this setup in the Walmart parking lot. Guess they have lightened up Airstream Trailers sense 1977. Our first Tavel Trailer was a 1977 31' Excela. It weight 8300 lb loaded. The TV is a Volkswagen Tiguan. Wayne 2009 Freightliner M2-106 Crewcab 8.3 Cummins 330/1000- Allison 3000RDS 2003 Newmar MountainAire 39 SDTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Doesn't that thing have the two rating of a small car? Class 1 maybe? At least it looks like they are using WD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance A Lott Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 I have a Avian it wheighs about 8k. Pulled it over the Bighorn moutions with my one ton, when we got to the botton my wife gave me the go ahead to get a bigger truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
53wlee53 Posted January 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 I thought it was a prank until I pulled up beside it and saw it was hooked up to a weight distrubting hitch with sway controllers. I looked up the tow capacity of it and it's 1500 lb! My Wrangler JK has a higher towing capacity. I thought ya'll might get a laugh or scare. Wayne 2009 Freightliner M2-106 Crewcab 8.3 Cummins 330/1000- Allison 3000RDS 2003 Newmar MountainAire 39 SDTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDBirdman Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 That's as bad as a toyota I saw with a 36-38 ft 5th wheel behind it. Ya just can't fix stoopid. 2002 Fifth Avenue RV (RIP) 2015 Ram 3500 Mega-cab DRW(38k miles), 6.7L Cummins Diesel, A668RFE, 3.73, 14,000 GVWR, 5,630 Payload, 27,300 GCWR, 18,460 Max Trailer Weight Rating(For Sale) , living in the frigid north, ND. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
53wlee53 Posted January 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 I've pulled my share of stupid stunts, one if I told you I don't think anyone would believe and survived! So now I try to play it safe. Wayne 2009 Freightliner M2-106 Crewcab 8.3 Cummins 330/1000- Allison 3000RDS 2003 Newmar MountainAire 39 SDTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpsinc Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 Perhaps in the same class as those guys hauling 40' toy haulers, overloaded, with a F250 running a Powerstroke, and lifted 8" running 38"s. "Well, its got a diesel and it pulls it fine". Till they get to the scales OR until the adjusters get a hold of that set up after an accident, that the insurance company denies the claim on because of the obvious lack of attention to the tow ratings. It just doesnt make sense to take chances with safety. Marcel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJohns Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 This is why I will not buy a used vehicle with a tow hitch on it. 2002 Beaver Marquis Emerald C-12 Cat 505 HP 2014 Volvo 630 D-13 I Shift SOLD 2017 New Horizons SOLD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dan Johnson said: This is why I will not buy a used vehicle with a tow hitch on it. All of my trucks came stock with hitches and my Jeep came stock with a hitch. That's a lot of vehicles you can't buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
53wlee53 Posted January 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 Whats bad is he was at least 4 times the tow cap of the SUV. I doubt he could get the tranny out of 3rd gear unless coasting. My JK won't stay in OD with 3k lb behind it. Wayne 2009 Freightliner M2-106 Crewcab 8.3 Cummins 330/1000- Allison 3000RDS 2003 Newmar MountainAire 39 SDTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXiceman Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 There is a clown in Canada that pushes towing with a lot less vehicle than you need. He claims he puts on the correct hitch systems and then you are safe. Seen a couple of his set ups and they are dangerous. Ken Amateur radio operator, 2023 Cougar 22MLS, 2022 F150 Lariat 4x4 Off Road, Sport trim <br />Travel with 1 miniature schnauzer, 1 standard schnauzer and one African Gray parrot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
53wlee53 Posted January 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 I wish I had taken a pic of the hitch to see if it was a 2" receiver or a 1" with a adapter. Such a liability issue. Wayne 2009 Freightliner M2-106 Crewcab 8.3 Cummins 330/1000- Allison 3000RDS 2003 Newmar MountainAire 39 SDTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 13 hours ago, 53wlee53 said: My JK won't stay in OD with 3k lb behind it. And it's got a higher tow rating. I'm re-gearing my JKUR for towing, which will help a lot. It's got 4.10s and 35" tires, going to 4.88s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemsteadc Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 Doesn't look anything like an MDT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpsinc Posted January 24, 2019 Report Share Posted January 24, 2019 6 hours ago, hemsteadc said: Doesn't look anything like an MDT. Unless that acronym mean Magic Duty Tow Marcel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
53wlee53 Posted January 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 Ford calls there 250 Super duty, maybe this is VWs version of a MDSUV. How does the Ruby do on fuel with 4.10s and 35s? I have the Sport with 32/3.21 gears. Going to 35s/4.10s maybe 4.56s in a few months. Concerned at hwy speeds 4.88s will have the motor screaming. Wayne 2009 Freightliner M2-106 Crewcab 8.3 Cummins 330/1000- Allison 3000RDS 2003 Newmar MountainAire 39 SDTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 13 hours ago, 53wlee53 said: How does the Ruby do on fuel with 4.10s and 35s? I have the Sport with 32/3.21 gears. Going to 35s/4.10s maybe 4.56s in a few months. Concerned at hwy speeds 4.88s will have the motor screaming. Around 16, and I was getting 18 without the lift and big tires. It does better in the city than on the highway, unless the highway time is at 55-60 MPH. It's just a brick, aerodynamically, and with the lift and tires, a bigger brick. This is my second JKUR, and I had done 4.88s on the previous one. The motor is barely above stock RPM with the 35s and 4.88 gears. 4.56 puts the RPM slightly lower than the stock 4.10 with stock tires. So my fuel economy went up with the 4.88s on the previous one as compared to 35s and 4.10. I've never driven a Jeep on 3.21 gears, that sounds so low-ratio. Is it a manual? Is it the pre-12 model? I've got a 2015 automatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemsteadc Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 21 hours ago, rpsinc said: Unless that acronym mean Magic Duty Tow lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
53wlee53 Posted January 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 It's a 2012. 3.6 auto. If I remember correctly it"s the only ratio in the sport. Might be incorrect.It works wit 32" tires but I know it will be to tall for 35s. They would work with a LS3 and a 6L80E. But then I would need Dana 60s Front and rear. Wayne 2009 Freightliner M2-106 Crewcab 8.3 Cummins 330/1000- Allison 3000RDS 2003 Newmar MountainAire 39 SDTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted January 25, 2019 Report Share Posted January 25, 2019 I thought the stock tires and the 4.10s were perfect. Putting on 35s made it a bit sluggish sometimes, and on an uphill highway at 75-80 it hunts gears, which is not good. So yours seems so tall. I held off doing 4.88s until I started towing, then it really needs it. Off road, the 4:1 transfer case makes the gears not really relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
53wlee53 Posted January 26, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 They are tall! The Ruby has a much better transfer case. I've read the 3.6 likes high rpm. It's jumps on takeoff very well, can't imagine how it will do with 4.88s & 35" tires. I stuck my 60hp Kubota 4x4 tractor so deep the bushhog was on the ground and it pulled it out. Wayne 2009 Freightliner M2-106 Crewcab 8.3 Cummins 330/1000- Allison 3000RDS 2003 Newmar MountainAire 39 SDTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grassy Posted February 17, 2019 Report Share Posted February 17, 2019 So far on our trip, I have seen several 40+, tri axle tpoy haulers running with a single wheeled one ton. I will go out on a limb that they were sold on this because it can "pull" it. I assume this ids illegal and since the LEOs won't do anything about it.. will the Ins company pay out when it is in an accident ? . Arctic Fox 29-5T . Beagle co-pilots - Faffy and Lulu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
53wlee53 Posted February 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2019 Our Newmar weighs 18.6k empty. When we bought it it was 1-1/2 years old. The guy who bought it new left the dealer with a 3/4 ton, returned 15 months later with a 1 ton and traded it in on a Motor Home. He said to much trailer for the truck. Wayne 2009 Freightliner M2-106 Crewcab 8.3 Cummins 330/1000- Allison 3000RDS 2003 Newmar MountainAire 39 SDTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porky69 Posted March 5, 2019 Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 FWIW......That is a VW TOUAREG, not a Tiguan. Mid-size vs compact. Still a ridiculously large trailer to tow behind it. Touareg's are rated for 3500kg (7700lb) towing and have a 2inch receiver with a 7pin plug from the factory(no brake controller installed, but wiring is provided). We had one and I couldn't imagine pulling a trailer half that size. Even our little garbage trailer (maybe 1500lbs) turned it into a fuel guzzling slug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
53wlee53 Posted March 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 5, 2019 Your correct about the Touareg tow rating. All I have to go on is the front grill in my pic. All Touareg's have a completely different grill than the pic. I could only find a grill like this on the Tiguan. Not a VW guy so I could easily be wrong. If I'm wrong, my apologys. Wayne 2009 Freightliner M2-106 Crewcab 8.3 Cummins 330/1000- Allison 3000RDS 2003 Newmar MountainAire 39 SDTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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