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Well as one project leads to another and one story from Dolly Trolley lead to another the rust on the Volvo continued to grow last Saturday. Flyer has done a lot of great work on my truck and I have been completely covered in grease from head to toe over the last few weekends. Once again last night I did a trip down to TEC and they sold me 1/2 of the store again. I then went to Harbor Freight to buy some more cheap tools to get me through one more weekend project and a time to scratch my head and invent new strings of 4 letter words and fight the good fight against rust. I FFFFF!@#$%^&!!!! hate rust! I hope you all could decipher the signs and symbols there.

So after the cab air bags and cab shocks are done I have looked up prices for a 3 axle alignment and front shocks. I called TEC, Southern Tire, Loves and Petro / TA. Petro quoted me 275.80 for the labor on everything if I supplied my own shocks. To get away from having to crawl around it much more I think that is a great price. Plus I am tired of getting covered in grease for a while. My brother and sister in law are coming into town and I want to have the truck ready for them to see and go for a ride in. Yes Dolly Trolley I am going to endanger the lives of 4 people plus me and my wife inside my semi along with the unsuspecting people on the highway between here and numerous mountain ranges. Now if I would not have had lunch with Trolley over the weekend I would not be trying to get his feathers ruffled.................... Trolley have another burrito from El Jeffe and a smile, think happy thoughts, no hot air balloons.................. think winding mountain trails in deserted NV horse trails without LEO's on your back door.........LOL.....LOL.

So I am winding down another school year, summer vacation beckons on the horizon like a sign for an exit 10 miles up the road on a 1500 mile road trip. May 25th is Check out day for teacher May 24th is the last day with students, let the parties begin!!!!!

Later,

Vegas Teacher 

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As a follow up Yes I understand it is a marathon and I am in for the long haul. I am happy and learning. The wife is on board and happy too. I just keep seeing more and more that needs to be done that are the big projects and not the fun small projects like Lights, mirrors and things to make the truck look really good. I think it was Mr. Cobb that said chrome will cost you $$$ but not get you home. I am sure I am off here but I know I saw it somewhere. I just want to start on the chrome stuff and be done with the mechanical stuff!!!!

Later, 

Cory O

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Vagas Teacher when do you start school to get out so early? I am on my 36th year as a school bus driver and we get out June 15 this year,  we used to get out the first week in June and start after Sept 1st. This year its Aug 24? Didn't look at a calender.

Rust is the bane of every Vermonters existence. I bought my truck in Texas and drove it back to Vermont so far only a couple of rusty bolts those are on the top cab  shock mount fun-fun-fun.

Are you talking body rust or rusty bolts?  If you heat them up red hot and then douse with cold water they come apart very easily, don't set your truck on fire.

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2 hours ago, Alie&Jim's Carrilite said:

  Por 15 is great stuff.  But don't even think about getting the stuff on you.  It wears off over weeks.

Agree'd, Por 15 is great stuff.  Don't get it on you or the floor.  I used it to seal up an antique's gas tank, drop'd a teaspoons worth on the garage floor.  Tank is holding up great, zero rust.  The spot on the floor, I spilled 6 years back, is still there...LOL

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I am dealing with kind of the same. I tried charging my air conditioner. Worked for about 15 minutes. So I took it to a shop a friend of mine owns. Blown line. No big deal he says. Next day I get a call. Its not good Johnny. Not good at all. Every time they take a line apart the next one falls apart. They used steel straps to hold aluminum lines. Steel bolts through aluminum junction blocks. Bolts all twisted off.

Last I knew I needed a condenser and all the lines. I hope they don't have to get in the dash or change the box in the sleeper. Its getting pricey fast.

Farmer, Trucker, Equipment operator, Mechanic

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I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess.

 

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4 hours ago, jenandjon said:

I am dealing with kind of the same. I tried charging my air conditioner. Worked for about 15 minutes. So I took it to a shop a friend of mine owns. Blown line. No big deal he says. Next day I get a call. Its not good Johnny. Not good at all. Every time they take a line apart the next one falls apart. They used steel straps to hold aluminum lines. Steel bolts through aluminum junction blocks. Bolts all twisted off.

Last I knew I needed a condenser and all the lines. I hope they don't have to get in the dash or change the box in the sleeper. Its getting pricey fast.

I can't agree more. Sometimes I wonder if it is just me or my stupidity when I bought this tractor. But then I remember what a new F450 costs or even a good used one and I also remember that once a lot of this stuff is fixed that it won't need to be fixed again for a long time. However, that being said money is money and I really want to drive my Semi, smile and enjoy the open road a lot more than less. Luckily I have a great friend in Vegas Flyer, he has been a great mentor and a really good friend, he even let me spend the night last Saturday. 

Later,

Cory O

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Well you know what. It is costing more and is more work than I thought it would be.  In the long run I will have his truck for a long time. Still way cheaper and safer than a pickup. Hopefully after getting the mechanics and the conversion straightened out I wont have to touch it again.

Farmer, Trucker, Equipment operator, Mechanic

Quando omni flunkus moritati-When all else fails, play dead
I'm a man, but I can change, if I have to, I guess.

 

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Owning an older HDT can be costly if you can't do a lot of work yourself. Most of us have the expectation that HDT is not any more expensive than a pickup truck is true. The equation is better is if you can keep the truck for long.  

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On 5/10/2018 at 7:44 AM, Vegas Teacher said:

Now if I would not have had lunch with Trolley over the weekend I would not be trying to get his feathers ruffled....................

Teach,

Listen up Kid........

Next time we meet I might NOT be the .....KIND & LOVING GEEEEZER you had lunch with last week so............Next time we meet I will likely stuff your greasy-carcass  in the back of the Dollytrolley and haul you over to the World famous Tecopa Hot Springs Geezer-Pools where Every-Body is a NAKED-BODY..........So KID, when I get NAKED in the pool.........(gasp).......trust me you ain't going to SEE any FEATHERS to ruffle..........

OK so you might be very well "Educated" when it comes to dealing with 15 year old punks ........However.......You still gota lot to learn whan it comes to plucking the feathers out of ..........geezers.......

Ok kid.........go to the chalk board and write 113 times..........."ain't NO Future in Ruffle'n Dollytrolley's Feathers"

Teach remember............."Life is school Every Day.......You can learn from the school or NOT........BUT there WILL be a......TEST"!!

 One other nugget to consider Teach.........In a few days Dollytrolley v 1.0, Toyhauler and Dolltrolley v 2.05, & horse trailer  & the Blue GMC will be wondering North to one or two of our too many slums that own us up in Oregon so this is fair warning.........with only 28 tires on the roads North of  Vegas it's likely best that you confine your truck and your self and your "crew" to roads South of Vegas for a few weeks..........you have been warned.

 

Drive on..............(Geezers............NO feathers to ruffle.....and.......not much to look at NAKED......)

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VT’s truck is really not that bad in the rust department.  This is his first big truck and he is used to spending weekends laying on a couch eating Cheetos and watching porn.....lol

John

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11 hours ago, VegasFlyer said:

VT’s truck is really not that bad in the rust department.  This is his first big truck and he is used to spending weekends laying on a couch eating Cheetos and watching porn.....lol

Lot Lizards and now this....  He's really becoming a Steering Wheel Holder!   Pretty soon you'll be able to get him a job with Swift!

(Just in case that teaching gig doesn't work out)

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Back to the original post. I would not trust Petro or any of the major truck stop chains to do an oil change, much less something as important as an alignment. Go to a shop that specializes in that work, not one that makes most of it's money selling tires and uses alignment as a profit booster.

You are going to pay more. But the set of tires you save, which will be destroyed before you realize the alignment is done improperly will more than offset the cost. 

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1 hour ago, beyerjf said:

Back to the original post. I would not trust Petro or any of the major truck stop chains to do an oil change, much less something as important as an alignment. Go to a shop that specializes in that work, not one that makes most of it's money selling tires and uses alignment as a profit booster.

You are going to pay more. But the set of tires you save, which will be destroyed before you realize the alignment is done improperly will more than offset the cost. 

Here is a classic example of my post .....

"Life is school.......you can learn or NOT......But there WILL be a .....TEST!

 

Gee imagine "Prof-Jeff has some wise lessons "learned" from way too many MILLION miles of "lessons" and having owned his own truck for soooo many miles he has passed the ....."TEST"!!

 

Drive on......(Listen to the ......lesson)

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7 minutes ago, Dollytrolley said:

Here is a classic example of my post .....

"Life is school.......you can learn or NOT......But there WILL be a .....TEST!

 

Gee imagine "Prof-Jeff has some wise lessons "learned" from way too many MILLION miles of "lessons" and having owned his own truck for soooo many miles he has passed the ....."TEST"!!

 

Drive on......(Listen to the ......lesson)

Trolley didn't I tell you teachers make the worst students.......LOL ( hey do you like how I copy your writing........... style......... when I type or write back to.......you......LOL.....!!!!!

As far as teachers go I am unique in actually listening to the lesson others are trying to teach me and you will also notice I ask a lot of questions. Now I am going to ask this question here and in another place because not everybody reads every post, posted so I don't see this next question asked twice as spamming............ I am not sending emails to your personal accounts selling or advertising something so don't read the post I am going to called help in Pahrump * IMPACT 1 INCH* Avoid this if you will get P!$$y about it.

Flyer and I have encountered some bolts that are rusted on my cab and we are in need of a 1 inch impact wrench. Does anybody know of a mobile mechanic in Pahrump that would be willing to come out to help us. If you are reading this do not read my post asking this question, but once again not everybody reads every single thread or every single post. If you can P.M. me and I will give out my phone number to you.

Anyway ....... Trolley........... Truck is still sitting in the giant town of Pahrump. D.W. came over the hump to pick me up yesterday. I am going to be working at Flyer's house on Saturday alone if I can find someone to bring an impact, and an air compressor with them. I won't have access to any tools, and I really don't want to use any of Flyer's tools without him around, so if need a full service kind of person.

I thank guys like you and Jeff who do have the experiences of life, but also as both a teacher and a student remember I do listen........ and I do............. ask a lot of questions............. the price seemed to good to be true, I just keep asking myself what are the hidden costs he is not telling me about. 

Trolley............ liked we talked about I only take things at face value and look only from the positive or humorous points of view from what is written. I am going to Assume, what you were writing was good spirited joking as I Assume, you can see I am doing the same stuff LOL.......... So looking forward to the next Power Lunch some day. Wish you the Dolley Momma the best luck on your travels!

Later,

Cory O  

 

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You don't need a 1" impact gun. The appropriate 1 " drive (preferably impact)socket, with a 1" drive breaker bar and a 6' long pipe will put more torque on the fastener than any impact gun. Assuming you are 200 lbs x 6' lever = 1200 ft pounds of torque. Just position everything so if it lets loose you don't get hurt.

If it doesn't move then, a torch is in order....Pulling your guts out on big truck stuff is fun....

 

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2008 Work and Play 34FK
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13 hours ago, Vegas Teacher said:

Trolley didn't I tell you teachers make the worst students.......LOL ( hey do you like how I copy your writing........... style......... when I type or write back to.......you......LOL.....!!!!!

Hummmmmmmm......."style"..............Well Teach ........you might need more than a BIG Rattle-Wrench.....you might be amazed how small my ....fan-club is and ......I lost what little "style".... I ever had Long-ago...

13 hours ago, Vegas Teacher said:

Trolley............ liked we talked about I only take things at face value and look only from the positive or humorous points of view from what is written. I am going to Assume, what you were writing was good spirited joking as I Assume, you can see I am doing the same stuff LOL.......... So looking forward to the next Power Lunch some day. Wish you the Dolley Momma the best luck on your travels!............Well kido......you mind Flyer and he just might keep your greeesy-carcass out of the ditch while I am up North swarming with the rest of the geezers that can't take the summer sizzle down here at Last Chance Peak.....

So....mind what Flyer says ........and you just might be around for the next ......power lunch........

As for me...........geezers never know when the last lunch is.......

Drive on............(Lunch is......good)

97 Freightshaker Century Cummins M11-370 / 1350 /10 spd / 3:08 /tandem/ 20ft Garage/ 30 ft Curtis Dune toybox with a removable horse-haul-module to transport Dolly-The-Painthorse to horse camps and trail heads all over the Western U S

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14 hours ago, Vegas Teacher said:

Anyway ....... Trolley........... Truck is still sitting in the giant town of Pahrump. D.W. came over the hump to pick me up yesterday. I am going to be working at Flyer's house on Saturday alone if I can find someone to bring an impact, and an air compressor with them. I won't have access to any tools, and I really don't want to use any of Flyer's tools without him around, so if need a full service kind of person.

Teach.

Busting-rusty-nuts is a .............gift.........so you need .....practice....

Grumps bought a OLD D9 CAT Dozer with a FOURTEEN FOOT Cable Blade and that was the PERFECT "Lesson"  on how to break bolts and torch-off-nuts...........

Dozers make trucks look like ........nothing....

 

Drive on..........(Teach might be going........"Nuts")

 

 

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If you place a large hammer or heavy block of steel on one side of a nut and then smack the opposite side with a smaller hammer (you want a sharp blow) it will oftentimes loosen a stuck or rusty nut. Hammer and block size will go,up as the nut gets bigger. Try to do this on all flats on the nut. I have used a punch and a helper for hard to reach nuts.

Heat really is the best option even if you spend a hour cleaning grease it might be faster and less painful. Put sand on the grease and it will have a hard time catching fire. Clean all you can first.

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If you heat a steel stud or bolt that is seized in cast iron and go have a coffee while it cools (and shrinks in all directions breaking the rust connection) you can remove it. Most of the time. 

Steel nut on steel bolt rusted inta a beaten bushing rusted inta a rubber shock mount needs one end busted off or zip cuttered and then you aren’t done you get to cuss at the bolt...

A hand impact is like a fat screwdriver you hit the head of with a hammer. Useful for removing steel case screws from aluminum castings etc on bikes and such.

A hammer wrench is a box end with a square striking area meant to be hit with a sledge hammer. Used in this land on wellhead pressure control flange bolts (like a 2” bolt times 12 or 14 around the flange) pump jack anchors etc.  If you use one of these and the sledge ricabounds inta your headlight assembly put the tools down and go for a beer.

 

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