SuiteSuccess Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Thanks Jim & Stekay. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke-E Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Carl, Answers above are good ones--the most important difference is thickness, with the MDS-filled nylon being 1/32" thinner. Either should be fine for you, as you weren't particularly tight to begin with. 45' 2004 Showhauler -- VNL300, ISX, FreedomLine -- RVnerds.com -- where I've started to write about what I'm up to Headlight and Fog Light Upgrades http://deepspacelighting.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big5er Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 as you weren't particularly tight to begin with.I'm not even gonna touch that line MY PEOPLE SKILLS ARE JUST FINE.~It's my tolerance to idiots that needs work.~ 2005 Volvo 780 VED12 465hp / Freedomline transmission singled mid position / Bed by Larry Herrin2018 customed Mobile Suites 40KSSB3 2014 smart Fortwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke-E Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 I'm not even gonna touch that line I should have known this discussion was going off the rails sooner or later. I guess I was just surprised at Henry's restraint, what with mentioning Jimmy Carter without any adjectives. Just so everyone else follows what I was saying, Carl had been able to use a standard 3/16" lube plate with his ET and the pin on his trailer without too much trouble. In other words, either of the two nylon plates should work just fine. If you haven't been able to use a lube plate at all, or have a lot of trouble getting lined up just right, make sure to go for the thinner one. 45' 2004 Showhauler -- VNL300, ISX, FreedomLine -- RVnerds.com -- where I've started to write about what I'm up to Headlight and Fog Light Upgrades http://deepspacelighting.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Mine was tight enough that I had to make it latch. Almost pushed off blocks. I use them to shorten ram. That why I took off. I would like to have a thin one also 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke-E Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Mine was tight enough that I had to make it latch. Almost pushed off blocks. I use them to shorten ram. That why I took off. I would like to have a thin one also Hi Glenn, The link ended up at the bottom of the previous page--here it is: http://deepspacelighting.com/shop/rv-fifth-wheel-lube-plate/ 45' 2004 Showhauler -- VNL300, ISX, FreedomLine -- RVnerds.com -- where I've started to write about what I'm up to Headlight and Fog Light Upgrades http://deepspacelighting.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim & Wilma Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 I should have known this discussion was going off the rails sooner or later. I guess I was just surprised at Henry's restraint, what with mentioning Jimmy Carter without any adjectives. I've been on the forum just long enough to hear about a legend of an “old geezer”; his name I think was also Henry. I missed any of the exchanges but I've got to imagine the current political environment would have offered rich commentary. I think I would have liked that old geezer. OK, returning to your normal programming . . . I opted for the thin version to increase my margin for misalignment, not that I’ve had too much trouble hitching up; of which mostly I attribute to my rookie status. Jim & Wilma 2006 Travel Supreme 36RLQSO 2009 Volvo VNL730, D13, I-shift, ET, Herrin Hauler bed, "Ruby" 2017 Smart Class of 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted May 20, 2016 Report Share Posted May 20, 2016 Just a side note here- If you have a plate that is too thick, find a local cabinet shop that has a planer. They can thin it down if the planer can accept the wide material. Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tippey Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 We're very much newbies on the forum and we've been learning more than I can remember learning. (Hmmm) My DW and I are almost fully transitioned from our Class A life to our new Fifth Wheel life. Our 'new to us' Carriage Royals International 36MAX1 will be ready for service from the dealer we purchased it from. We've had to store our 2001 Volvo since we purchased it from Rick Younger in November. It's now completed it's long hibernation and should be ready to roll for us. Our ET hitch has not yet been tested since we bought it but it's looking good with only a little bit of rust on the head surface.. We'll be doing a lot of practice on hitching and unhitching in a nice open area down here in Southern AZ south of Tucson in Amado AZ. When I emailed Henry just a few days ago to ask about lubrication best practices for the ET he referred me to what he called this 'lively' conversation. How's that for good timing to jump on this thread. We sure appreciate this timely conversation along with the recommendations you are putting out here. At the moment we have nothing but will shop today for spray-on lubricant for the jaws and pivot points. As to the head lube plate I guess I can see what's available locally in Tucson but if they may make it more of a pain hitching up I may prefer to purchase off this thread to start out with the thin plate you are talking about here. Feedback is welcomed & thanks! Tipper "GAR" is a 2001 White Volvo 660 singled long w/ VED12 465 3.58 - Eaton Fuller Auto-shift 10spd. 3 pedal- Onan QD 6500 Gen. (aka "Joyrider") 2010 Carriage Royals International 36MAX1 w/ MORryde IS, G114's 17.5" wheels, (SOLD) 2014 Honda CRV AWD (ready to flat tow but driven separately by my DW! Class of 2016 Full-Timers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaHybrid Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 I guess I must be old fashioned then, I just use plain old grease. Nothing fancy, nothing ever rusts, the same grease on the pin is used on the plate, it can be found almost anywhere and it never causes a problem hitching up. For a little more spice to life, I sometimes use waterproof marine grease. As far as the OP's question about maintenance on the ET hitch, I don't think there are any zerk fittings on it anywhere. Henry uses hi tech plastic but I might call him to see if I can drill and tap a few strategic holes to add so lube in critical wear areas. Don't know if the ET has any or not as I haven't seen mine yet, our bed build is due to start in June and hopefully, Henry will have mine ready by then. 2017 Kenworth T6802015 DRV 38RSSA Elite Suites2016 Smart Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix2013 Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 I guess I must be old fashioned then, I just use plain old grease. Nothing fancy, nothing ever rusts, the same grease on the pin is used on the plate, it can be found almost anywhere and it never causes a problem hitching up. For a little more spice to life, I sometimes use waterproof marine grease. As far as the OP's question about maintenance on the ET hitch, I don't think there are any zerk fittings on it anywhere. Henry uses hi tech plastic but I might call him to see if I can drill and tap a few strategic holes to add so lube in critical wear areas. Don't know if the ET has any or not as I haven't seen mine yet, our bed build is due to start in June and hopefully, Henry will have mine ready by then. It's in process, with three others, you might say it will be one of the "quadruplets". Although genetically it might not be accurate since there is one Jr. in the bunch. Composite bearings (12 of them) do not require greasing. Grease on the head helps prevent rusting, but you might look like a grease monkey when you get too close. I've been on the forum just long enough to hear about a legend of an “old geezer”; his name I think was also Henry. I missed any of the exchanges but I've got to imagine the current political environment would have offered rich commentary. I think I would have liked that old geezer. OK, returning to your normal programming . . . I opted for the thin version to increase my margin for misalignment, not that I’ve had too much trouble hitching up; of which mostly I attribute to my rookie status. That old geezer (also named Henry) was plenty opinionated, particularly when it came to work performed by folks with thin resumes (such as community organizers). But that old geezer is no longer on the forum, he upset too many people. The reference Phoenix made in regards to Jimmy Carter's Presidency was strictly to give folks (old folks) time interval they can relate to. A year later he would have mentioned Reagan's Presidency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaHybrid Posted May 23, 2016 Report Share Posted May 23, 2016 It's in process, with three others, you might say it will be one of the "quadruplets". Although genetically it might not be accurate since there is one Jr. in the bunch. Composite bearings (12 of them) do not require greasing. Grease on the head helps prevent rusting, but you might look like a grease monkey when you get too close. I hope the truck will be delivered in the next 2-3 weeks and then we will get ready for a drive to Texas to see Larry. Glad to hear mine is in progress and I don't mind a little grease and oil, I like working my the garage and with old cars, you are going to get a little messy. 2017 Kenworth T6802015 DRV 38RSSA Elite Suites2016 Smart Prime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickW Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 I guess I must be old fashioned then, I just use plain old grease. Nothing fancy, nothing ever rusts, the same grease on the pin is used on the plate, it can be found almost anywhere and it never causes a problem hitching up. For a little more spice to life, I sometimes use waterproof marine grease. That is what I use. When I first got my ET 6 years ago I could not find a teflon ring thin enough to work with my pinbox. Typically I only need to grease the hitch plate once or twice a year. It is basically also the same time that I get under the trailer and grease the axles too. 2017 Entegra Anthem 44A SOLD - 2004 Volvo 780. 465hp and 10sp Auto Shift (from 2010~2017) SOLD - 2009 Montana 3400RL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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