Dash cams. Can or do they send to 3rd party without you knowing?

[RV_]

11 minutes ago, bruce t said:

Huawei. Ask yourself why this Chinese company is being watched very very carefully. Ask yourself about CCTV devices. 

The reality is that nowadays no one knows who is watching who. No one realy knows what devices are even connected to God knows who or what.

We pay as much as possible with cash. We turn off all devices as soon as we are finished with them. Trust no one. 

 

 

Does Huawei make dashcams???

[bruce t]

RV I have no idea. I'm just making a point about who and what you can trust.

 

[essarebee]

Check out Amazon Sidewalk and imagine the number of hackers working to exploit this.  Could you make a camera connect using these devices?  Think of the thumb drives that can send information, only requiring someone to plug them into a computer.  These are given away at trade shows as free storage devices.  Our smartest specialists can't tell a benign chip from an invasive one.  So, anything with a camera can be used to upload using many methods.

[Deezl Smoke]

11 hours ago, RV_ said:

Does Huawei make dashcams???

 Even if they do not make it under their parent name, I'll bet a months wages they make or have made many brands of cameras, dash type included, under many other names. They are a massive company structure.

[agesilaus]

If someone is watching the video, just what are they going to see? An autonomous road scrolling by with no audio. So what?? Seems to have zero value to most people.

[Chalkie]

13 minutes ago, agesilaus said:

If someone is watching the video, just what are they going to see? An autonomous road scrolling by with no audio. So what?? Seems to have zero value to most people.

My dash cam can record sound, therefore whatever is going on inside the truck, but I have that option turned off.

[RV_]

In Ancient Greece, Socrates had a great reputation of wisdom. One day, someone came to find the great philosopher and said to him:

- Do you know what I just heard about your friend?

- A moment, replied Socrates. Before you tell me, I would like to test you the three sieves.

- The three sieves?

- Yes, continued Socrates. Before telling anything about the others, it's good to take the time to filter what you mean. I call it the test of the three sieves. The first sieve is the TRUTH. Have you checked if what you're going to tell me is true?

- No, I just heard it.

- Very good! So, you don't know if it's true. We continue with the second sieve, that of KINDNESS. What you want to tell me about my friend, is it good?

- Oh, no! On the contrary.

- So, questioned Socrates, you want to tell me bad things about him and you're not even sure they're true? Maybe you can still pass the test of the third sieve, that of UTILITY. Is it useful that I know what you're going to tell me about this friend?

- No, really.

- So, concluded Socrates, what you were going to tell me is neither true, nor good, nor useful. Why, then, did you want to tell me this?

"Gossip is a bad thing. In the beginning it may seem enjoyable and fun, but in the end, it fills our hearts with bitterness and poisons us, too!

 

Did you know human trials are approved and are being done right now to read our thoughts to control devices but already can form some images and subjects about which one is thinking rudimentary on thoughts but working, and that is what is being improved as I type.

 

If these things terrify you from conspiracies passed along by non-engineers in each industry, or at least techies willing to read and comprehend technical articles. 

 

However for all these fears protective gear is available: https://www.amazon.com/tin-foil-hat/s?k=tin+foil+hat

 

Me I am fine using and understanding my tech. If you want no danger disconnect all devices from the Internet, go back to non WiFi digital cameras, get a landline (yes you still can in some places,) Use CB radios or 2 Meter handhelds for communicating on the road, get an old typewriter as they are cheap today at yard sales, and mail docs as the US postal service still operates, only do business with mail order catalogs or in person. Some companies still send them out or you can order by phone, do not use credit cards send checks by mail and only use cash you get at your bank's drive in windows with paperwork slips.

 

Or learn your tech. Tech gossip is rampant. Risk? Sure, walking down the street is more risky today from gossip too.

 

So if you record your voice and video wit a non WiFi DashCam or have WiFi off on it, then record only to a micro SD card and use it for playback on your phone using Bluetooth or SD Card reader and USB cable to view the Dashcam video and audio, it is not phoning home. Unless you save them to your phone and are connected via cellular.

[RV_]

Y'all carry on! All your answers are there ^^^^^^^.

Google who makes Android is an American company as is Apple who makes iOS. Foxconn, a Chinese company, makes a majority of Apple tablets and phones and their computers are outsourced to them and other Chinese companies.

Better stop using your phones at all unless they are made in the US. Oops!

Where is my Google Pixel made?

Excerpt:

"If you only got 30 seconds:

Google, which is having a majority of its Pixel 6 smartphone made in China, is considering shifting orders for its future phones to its manufacturing partners’ plants in Vietnam to avoid the risks from the ongoing US-China trade tensions and China’s.

Google has been making Pixel 6 smartphones in China because that is where the phone’s components are sourced from. However, the company is looking to move away from relying on China for future phone orders because of the ongoing trade tensions between the US and China. The US has been putting tariffs on Chinese goods, which has made it more expensive for Chinese companies to do business with the US. This has led to companies like Google shifting their phone orders away from China in order to avoid getting caught up in the trade conflict.

Google’s decision to move away from China is likely to have a small impact on the company’s overall profits. However, it is likely to have a larger impact on the company’s reputation. If Google is seen as being aligned with the US in its stance against China, this could help strengthen the company’s position in the Chinese market. By moving away from China, Google is also signaling that it is willing to take a stand against the Chinese government."

https://www.techfow.com/where-are-google-pixel-phones-made-expert-guide/#Is Google Pixel Manufactured in China

 

Where are Apple phones made?

Except from 2015:

"This is an iPhone factory in China. Seventeen of the company's workers have committed suicide. Is it our fault?

It's hard not to look at the nets. Every building is skirted in them. They drape every precipice, steel poles jutting out six metres above the pavement, loosely tangled like tennis-court nets in winter. The nets went up in May, after the 11th jumper in under a year died here. They carry a message: you can throw yourself off any building you like, as long as it isn't one of these. And they seem to have worked. Since they were installed, the suicide rate has slowed to a trickle.

My tour guides don't mention the nets until I do. Not to avoid the topic, I don't think -- the suicides are the reason I am at a

Foxconn plant in Shenzhen, a bustling industrial city in southern China -- but simply because they are so prevalent.

Foxconn, the single largest private employer in mainland China, manufactures many of the products -- motherboards, camera components, MP3 players -- that make up the world's $150 billion consumer-electronics industry. Foxconn's output accounts for nearly 40 per cent of that revenue. Altogether, the company employs about a million people, nearly half of whom work at the 20-year-old Shenzhen plant. But until two summers ago, most Brits had never heard of Foxconn."

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/my-gadget-guilt

Lenovo in China makes Motorola phones. My Microsoft Surface Devices are all made in China since 2017 after trying to compete with a US factory:

Excerpt:

"Microsoft Closes US Surface Factory, Moves Production to China

Microsoft is closing its Surface Hub manufacturing facility in Wilsonville, Oregon, barely two years after opening it. Instead of being manufactured in the US, future Surface Hubs will be built in China."

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/252743-microsoft-closes-us-surface-factory-moves-production-china

Back in 2010 when I tried to tell folks the American brands are just the customer service end, and all computers are made in China. Even Japanese and Korean brands have their factories in mainland China in addition to their original factories because of the cheap and educated tech-hip workforce. When I posted that IBM Thinkpads were made in China for years folks here on SKPs went nuts denying that. Then when Lenovo uncloaked that they had been making them all along, they kept the brand name Thinkpad but came out of the closet and put their brand on them. 

It is getting a bit silly at this point folks. Saying Huawei makes the components is like saying all cell phones have AMD chips in them. Or that all computers have Apple M3 chips in them. AMD makes no cell phone CPUs that I know of and no Windows computer uses Apple M3 chipsets.

Tech and engineering have something about them called facts. I don't care if the opposite were true and all the components were made in the US and assembled in China which is not the case, any spy devices can be installed anywhere along the line and after in Software phone OS' and apps, as we have seen be an issue for Apple and Google store App security."

Good day ladies and gentlemen – Safe Travels.

 

[Dutch_12078]

At least our Samsung Galaxy phones are not made in China, nor are any other Samsung products. 

[bruce t]

Hal 9000 is alive and well. 

[RV_]

1 hour ago, Dutch_12078 said:

At least our Samsung Galaxy phones are not made in China, nor are any other Samsung products. 

Dutch always a pleasure to have you in a thread.

And as usual you're right.

They were, but now don't think they are made in S. Korea. They make some there, but those are for their local Korean market.

Last updated: May 2nd, 2023 at 23:14 UTC+02:00

Samsung actually shut down its last remaining smartphone factory in China this year. As of 2019, the company is not making any phones in the People’s Republic. It previously had two factories in China but as Samsung’s market share fell below 1% in the country, it had to scale back production. It no longer makes financial sense for Samsung to manufacture phones in China. Which is why it has now stopped doing that.

Vietnam

Vietnam is actually where Samsung phones are made, most of them anyway. Samsung’s manufacturing facility is located in Vietnam’s Thai Nguyen province where two factories are churning out smartphones, tablets and wearable devices. The company is in the process of adding another factory to the facility to further increase its production in the country. The existing factories produce 120 million units per year. Most of Samsung’s global supply, including for markets like North America and Europe, comes from Vietnam.

India

India not only has Samsung’s biggest mobile factory, but it’s also the largest mobile phone manufacturing unit in the world based on production capacity. Samsung had announced in 2017 that it would invest $620 million to double smartphone production in India. It inaugurated the factory in Noida, Uttar Pradesh, India in 2018. The production capacity of this factory is now at 120 million units per year.

Much of the supply is meant for the Indian market. It is one of the most lucrative smartphone markets for Samsung. Given the import taxes in the country, Samsung needs local production in order to effectively compete against its rivals on price. The company has been manufacturing its Galaxy M and Galaxy A series handsets here as well. However, Samsung may also export Indian-manufactured smartphones to markets in Europe, Africa and West Asia.

South Korea

Samsung does operate manufacturing facilities in its home country of South Korea. That’s also where most of the components that it sources from its sister companies are made. However, its smartphone production factory in South Korea accounts for less than 10 percent of global shipments. The units manufactured here are primarily meant for the company’s local market.

Brazil

Samsung operates a manufacturing facility in Brazil as well. It was set up back in 1999. More than 6,000 workers are employed at the factory from where Samsung supplies its smartphones to all of Latin America. With Brazil having high import taxes as well, local production also allows Samsung to offer its products in the country at a competitive price.

Indonesia

Indonesia is also a country where Samsung phones are made. It was a fairly recent decision by the company to start making phones in this country. The factory was opened in 2015 and has a production capacity of around 800,000 units per year. That’s sufficient enough for Samsung to cater to local demand.

How Samsung’s manufacturing priorities are changing

The smartphone market has significantly changed over the past decade. Chinese smartphone manufacturers have become highly competitive in all segments of the market. Samsung has had to adapt as it comes under increasing pressure.

This has led to a shift in the company’s manufacturing priorities. Samsung released its first ODM smartphone, the Galaxy A6s, in 2019. That device was manufactured by a third-party for the Chinese market. The ODM solution allows Samsung to improve its margins on affordable devices. It’s now expected to ship 60 million ODM smartphones in the near future to markets across the globe.

A larger shift to the ODM model would mean that Samsung won’t be utilizing all of the available production capacity that it has at its own factories. That’s unless shipments increase for the smartphone market overall and it’s able to increase its market share.

Where are original Samsung phones made?

There are some misconceptions about “original” Samsung phones based on the country of production. The abundance of misinformation online doesn’t help. To put it simply, all Samsung phones made at the company’s own factories or its ODM partners are “original.” It doesn’t matter if the factory is in South Korea or Brazil. A smartphone made at the factory in Vietnam isn’t inherently better than the one made in Indonesia.

That’s because these factories are only really assembling the devices. They all get the same components and follow the same manufacturing and quality processes. You don’t have to worry whether your Samsung phone is original or not based on where it was made. Unless it’s an obvious fake that says “Samsang” or something at the back. That’s another problem altogether.

Source:

https://www.sammobile.com/where-are-samsung-phones-made

[RV_]

Hal 9000 also has an ignore button, goodbye!

Edited May 31, 2023 by RV_

[Deezl Smoke]

7 hours ago, RV_ said:

Or learn your tech

 That's what I'm trying to do. It's not the tech that scares me, it's my ignorance of how to keep it safe that scares me. That's why I do not do online banking. It's not the service that is bad, it's my lack of ability to keep my own computers free of malware that keeps me from it.

 I dont care if someone wants to watch where I'm going or how my driving is, I just want to "learn my tech" so I know if they are. Not that they are, but can they and are they?

[RV_]

16 hours ago, Deezl Smoke said:

 That's what I'm trying to do. It's not the tech that scares me, it's my ignorance of how to keep it safe that scares me. That's why I do not do online banking. It's not the service that is bad, it's my lack of ability to keep my own computers free of malware that keeps me from it.

 I dont care if someone wants to watch where I'm going or how my driving is, I just want to "learn my tech" so I know if they are. Not that they are, but can they and are they?

No problem Deezel. I don't do online banking with my phones but do on our desktops. I do use Navigation and like you am not on anyone's radar screen. 

I too have nothing to hide and do not do conspiracy theories.

Tell me these things:

1. What are you using for an anti malware app?
2. Do you do Windows updates every month?
3. Do you open attachments or link in emails that were not expected.

So this was about Dash Cams and that has been covered. Use the SD card and if you want or need it use WiFi to look through your camera when you are not there. I have a "Sentry" setting on my car which will alert me to anyone near it or touching it and lets me see through some or all of the 9 cameras it has. It is for when you park in a dicey neighborhood or on the street with no Garage. Mine is garaged and we do no dicey areas. Now we use hotels when we had to travel back to Louisiana for a funeral since we have no RV at the moment. I would use Sentry Mode in those parking lots too, but we choose motel chains for known security and cameras.

It is up to you, and as long as you do strong passwords, banking online is OK once you check with your financial institution. But using the DashCam for evidence in an accident is still their best use. If you want to connect it to your phone with WiFi your phone is connected.

Keeping your phone safe and what settings to change are simple. Don't load Apps not from your Phone store be that the Android Play store or the Apple store. They check for security but some still slip by.

When I post the Malwarebytes Newsletter in computers forum or this forum, start reading them eventually you start to see a bigger picture.

Your bank will cover some security losses but it is up to you to decide how far to take it. I used to be stricter but have loosened up since getting familiar with Android over the last 13 years or so.

Lynn checks our accounts often, more than once a week, and I turn in all receipts to her so we know if something is not us.

If I can be of any help I am glad to try and answer any questions, here on the forums, in email or messaging here. I even will take a call and no charge as SKPs and members of these forums I consider like family. When I started many SKPs, most were 65 when I started at 45 and are gone now. But I still try to pay it forward and pass along verifiable facts, and identify when it is my opinion.

If you are worried about ID theft that is one set of rules. Credit cards and making online purchases are safe as long as you know what to look for in email and online scams.

I use Malwarebytes for security on my Windows machines and our cellphones and it has been great for warning us in time when we stumble into a compromised website or one with a reputation for scams. They also make a cell phone version as does my VPN which is NORD VPN. Others may prefer others brands and I am fine with that. As well Windows Defender that's built into Windows machines is more than adequate as long as you keep up with all Windows updates. Security updates will be done monthly until 2025. Updates to Defender are included in those updates.

Hope that helps.

[RV_]

On 5/29/2023 at 5:31 AM, Jaydrvr said:

Many navigation devices are freestanding and have all the data needed internally to decode the satellite signals for navigation. No internet connection needed. If you navigate with your phone, it uses its internal cell signal connection for data. Usually the phone isn't used as a hot spot to share the data signal inside the vehicle, so the dashcam wouldn't have an internet connection. Many newer vehicles do have an internal hot spot option available though, if one cares to subscribe to that. Jay

👍💯

[essarebee]

There is no way to tell what a device is capable of unless an expert dismantles it and identifies the components.  I don't want to argue, however there is no conspiracy theory about hacks, compromises, and breeches.  It is out there, everywhere.  We all just do what we want, to try to stay safer (not safe).  And to be a little picky, Windows, Nord VPN, Malwarebytes, and almost any service or product you can name, has already been breeched.  A search will show dates and details.  Check out this THIS ARTICLE for a little information that only scratches the surface of what details are available on device users.

[bruce t]

I have a simple Samsung tablet that I use to find camping spots. It's not connected to the internet. (I downloaded the package a few years back and occasionally log on to update it. But it Is never connected while on the road). Yet it always knows where I am. How is it connected? Who's watching? I can turn the tablet off and back on again way out where there is no cell signal. Yet it still picks me up. Maybe I'm wanted by the FBI! Or maybe the Chinese think I'm important! Or maybe we are all just ignorant of what freedoms we have given away.

 

 

[Jaydrvr]

53 minutes ago, bruce t said:

I have a simple Samsung tablet that I use to find camping spots. It's not connected to the internet. (I downloaded the package a few years back and occasionally log on to update it. But it Is never connected while on the road). Yet it always knows where I am. How is it connected? Who's watching? I can turn the tablet off and back on again way out where there is no cell signal. Yet it still picks me up. Maybe I'm wanted by the FBI! Or maybe the Chinese think I'm important! Or maybe we are all just ignorant of what freedoms we have given away.

 

 

It's just calculating the timing differences between the GPS satellites to determine your position. No cell connection needed. It's essentially a passive calculation. Jay

[Deezl Smoke]

6 hours ago, RV_ said:

Tell me these things:

1. What are you using for an anti malware app?
2. Do you do Windows updates every month?
3. Do you open attachments or link in emails that were not expected.

 

 Windows defender. I do so little online socializing, just a couple forums like this, and youtube. I have no facebook or other "social media" to use the common broad description. I do not surf porn, and any time I search for anything, I usually start on youtube.

 I have it set to notifiy me of an update, but let me shoose when. I usually do update. Well, I guess I pretty much always do.

 NEVER. Never do I open any attachments from any sender that I can not confirm the sender's ID. I'm not curious enough I guess. I have actually had businesses I do business with get hacked and then received emails from those businesses with attachments or requesting that I follow a link to fix some account issue etc. I always call the business and ask what gives. Don't matter how urgent or threatening the message is, it's an email. To me, that means it's "just an email". Nothing to get excited about.

 I am in no way anti technology. Quite the opposite. However, I am from the old school, and choose not jump into tech just to say I did. I have to need it, or in some way it has to benefit me. Then, I'm all over it. I doubt I use 5% of the capacity of my android, but the features I do use,....it'll take a big pry bar to pry it out of my cold, dead hand. And yes, location is turned on.😉

 My 2021 Pete 567 has the factory navigation system that allows cameras to be hooked up. I'm just wanting to have dash cams to aid fault determination. Even if it is me, so be it, I will man up to it.

[RV_]

Deezl you Have it nailed. If I can help just ask!