Kozmic1520 Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 I bought a MDT, an F650 Super Cab, Flatbed, 5.9 Cummins, 2500 Allison. My intent was to haul my Jeep on the back, and pull a 22' travel trailer. After I got the truck I was far less than happy with the power. Loaded, at about 5K# on the bed, and 6K# on the hitch I end up at 35-40 mph on grades. I'm thinking about stepping up to a HDT. What I'm concerned about... 1. Nevada licensing. I'd like to avoid a CDL 2. Is it possible to to convert the title to an RV in Nevada? 3. I've heard of legal and or insurance issues with running without the camper in tow. Thanks in advance for putting up with the repetitive questions, I did search and didn't find Nevada specific info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverEasy Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 Go here: The Heavy Haulers Rhttps://www.rvnetwork.com/topic/88214-the-heavy-haulers-resource-guide-hdt-rally-site/esource Guide & HDT Rally Site - HDT - Escapees Discussion Forum Click on HDT Decision. There are two sections on state by state requirement: Licensing and Title/registration. Sometimes, personal experience at the DMV ends up different from what is posted here. Quote Chet & Deb '01 Volvo 660 w/ Smart '19 Forest River Columbus 320RS 5th wheel 2022 Chev 2500HD Long Bed Retired CWO4, USN and federal service Electronics Tech/Network Engineer/Welder/Machinist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozmic1520 Posted March 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, NeverEasy said: Go here: The Heavy Haulers Rhttps://www.rvnetwork.com/topic/88214-the-heavy-haulers-resource-guide-hdt-rally-site/esource Guide & HDT Rally Site - HDT - Escapees Discussion Forum Click on HDT Decision. There are two sections on state by state requirement: Licensing and Title/registration. Sometimes, personal experience at the DMV ends up different from what is posted here. I've tried those links, None of them open for me. I've tried different browsers too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrformance Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 https://www.truckconversion.net/forums/f93/registering-tractor-motorhome-4483/ Have not read this page, but might help you. Quote 2006 Volvo VNL 780, " Arvey" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 2010 Forest River Coachman Freedom Express 280RLS Jackalopee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverEasy Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 They worked fine for me in Edge. I am not a NV resident and have no personal experience. IMO, you should attend one of the HDT Rallies (National in Hutchinson, KS, West Coast Rally in Caldwell, ID, or East Coast Rally in Crossville, TN. You will be better prepared to transition to a HDT. Short answer as posted for NV: Yes to title as Private Truck. No to Motorhome License. NV 483.850 exempts RVs from CDL license. When towing trailer above 10,000 lb GVWR, requires "J" endorsement. Above 26,000 lb GVWR or GCWR requires non-commercial Class A or B. Quote Chet & Deb '01 Volvo 660 w/ Smart '19 Forest River Columbus 320RS 5th wheel 2022 Chev 2500HD Long Bed Retired CWO4, USN and federal service Electronics Tech/Network Engineer/Welder/Machinist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrformance Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 We have a recent convert from Vegas here on the forum. His name is Vegas Teacher. He is always willing to help, and has knowledge specifically to Nevada. Quote 2006 Volvo VNL 780, " Arvey" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 2010 Forest River Coachman Freedom Express 280RLS Jackalopee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parrformance Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 https://www.facebook.com/groups/HDTRVs/?post_id=3471151076245985 Another possible helpful link. Oh and you are right, you will not lack power with a class 8 truck. Quote 2006 Volvo VNL 780, " Arvey" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift 2003 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon 2010 Forest River Coachman Freedom Express 280RLS Jackalopee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahoe Shark Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 I am glad you came back. Anyway my answers stand from your previous post. Welcome to the forum. Are you in northern or Southern Nevada. Quote Tim & Cheryl 2015 Mobile Suites 39 TKSB3 2009 Volvo 670 D13 I-Shift “Walter” Happily Living Somewhere In Nevada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozmic1520 Posted March 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Tahoe Shark said: I am glad you came back. Anyway my answers stand from your previous post. Welcome to the forum. Are you in northern or Southern Nevada. Southern. Pahrump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozmic1520 Posted March 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 I haven't figured out how to insert pictures yet https://ibb.co/rkJcpBR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tahoe Shark Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 Message Cory (Vegas teacher) then. He is in Las Vegas and spend a lot of time in Pahrump with his dogs.maybe he can meet up with you. Quote Tim & Cheryl 2015 Mobile Suites 39 TKSB3 2009 Volvo 670 D13 I-Shift “Walter” Happily Living Somewhere In Nevada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozmic1520 Posted March 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 Just now, Tahoe Shark said: Message Cory (Vegas teacher) then. He is in Las Vegas and spend a lot of time in Pahrump with his dogs.maybe he can meet up with you. Is he on FB by any chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydrvr Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 8 minutes ago, Kozmic1520 said: I haven't figured out how to insert pictures yet https://ibb.co/rkJcpBR Start with this link. You'll need to use the Other Media button to insert the link created, after stripping the [IMG] front and rear. Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydrvr Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, Kozmic1520 said: Is he on FB by any chance? He's on one of the HDT for RV pages. Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steiny93 Posted March 22, 2021 Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 On 3/21/2021 at 10:53 AM, Kozmic1520 said: Loaded, at about 5K# on the bed, and 6K# on the hitch I end up at 35-40 mph on grades. To the OP, there is a lot to like about the HDT route and not to divert the thread. But if power is your only compliant, have you looked at power adders? If it's the later 5.9 vintage (newer then 2004) you can significantly increase torque without killing dependability. (we still have a 5.9 in a pickup which has only been used for pulling, at 100 miles it had exhaust and a tune applied, dyno's over 1000ft/lbs. It now has over 250k on it today, typical load is about 35k (farm truck moving bales). The negative is the engine braking; you absolutely don't get anywhere the same as with a larger displacement engine. Quote 2000 volvo 6102013 cyclone 3950 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kozmic1520 Posted March 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2021 11 minutes ago, steiny93 said: To the OP, there is a lot to like about the HDT route and not to divert the thread. But if power is your only compliant, have you looked at power adders? If it's the later 5.9 vintage (newer then 2004) you can significantly increase torque without killing dependability. (we still have a 5.9 in a pickup which has only been used for pulling, at 100 miles it had exhaust and a tune applied, dyno's over 1000ft/lbs. It now has over 250k on it today, typical load is about 35k (farm truck moving bales). The negative is the engine braking; you absolutely don't get anywhere the same as with a larger displacement engine. I have not found anyone that can uprate the ECM yet. I tried a module, but it only adds fuel, So when the ECM sees overboost it defuels to stop the over boost. So it really does nothing for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMF Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 I registered mine as a commercial truck for private use in NV. This is only way to register them in NV, you'll pay normal registration fees, for that ended up being about $750. I insured through Progressive the same way, this way I can drive it bobtail. If you insure it as an RV you find that your truck is only covered when pulling the camper, this doesn't work for me. I had no issues registering it, was in and out of the DMV in about an hour and a half (they are not making appointments for private sales) I plan to get my Class A Noncommercial, however they are not making appointments for non CDL drivers, so that will just have to wait. I have had no issues and have been driving it for several months now, even got a few thumbs up from NHP officers lol Quote Dave Las Vegas, NV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dollytrolley Posted April 2, 2021 Report Share Posted April 2, 2021 On 3/21/2021 at 12:44 PM, Kozmic1520 said: Southern. Pahrurive mp. We have a winter home in N. Pahrump however we are actually Oregunn natives with too much real estate there so our rigs are tagged in Oregunn where they will turn ANYTHING into a RV for plenty of $$$$$. If you want to talk on the phone Private Message me with your phone # Drive on .........power up for the hills.... Quote 97 Freightshaker Century Cummins M11-370 / 1350 /10 spd / 3:08 /tandem/ 20ft Garage/ 30 ft Curtis Dune toybox with a removable horse-haul-module to transport Dolly-The-Painthorse to horse camps and trail heads all over the Western U S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas Teacher Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 On 3/21/2021 at 8:53 AM, Kozmic1520 said: I bought a MDT, an F650 Super Cab, Flatbed, 5.9 Cummins, 2500 Allison. My intent was to haul my Jeep on the back, and pull a 22' travel trailer. After I got the truck I was far less than happy with the power. Loaded, at about 5K# on the bed, and 6K# on the hitch I end up at 35-40 mph on grades. I'm thinking about stepping up to a HDT. What I'm concerned about... 1. Nevada licensing. I'd like to avoid a CDL 2. Is it possible to to convert the title to an RV in Nevada? 3. I've heard of legal and or insurance issues with running without the camper in You can't register as an R.V. in Nevada, I live in Vegas, tried that not possible. I have a Volvo 780. I weigh in at 18,500lbs. My 780 is registered as a private truck, at 26,000 lbs or less, noncommercial. I use GLG insurance which is a branch through progressive, they are on rainbow here in Vegas. Many insurance companies do not cover you if you are running bobtail, like when you might be taking your truck in for an oil change or repair that might need to be done without the trailer on it, you are not insured, GLG allows you to drive bobtail and still be covered if, go forbid, you are in an accident. Feel free to private message me if you would like the phone number for GLG, or great mechanics in Las Vegas. Another good source of information would be from Dolley trolley he is also in Nevada and knows this stuff backwards and forwards. Later Cory Ossana- Vegas Teacher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas Teacher Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 On 3/21/2021 at 12:49 PM, Kozmic1520 said: Is he on FB by any chance? Yes I am look under Vincent Ossana I also sent you a private message did you get it. Or call me at 702 672 7990. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegas Teacher Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 On 3/22/2021 at 12:43 PM, Kozmic1520 said: I have not found anyone that can uprate the ECM yet. I tried a module, but it only adds fuel, So when the ECM sees overboost it defuels to stop the over boost. So it really does nothing for me. Call true blue diesel mechanics, ask for Steve tell him you know Vincent Ossana big orange Volvo he will take care of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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