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I have a 2012 redwood Fifth Wheel 38GK with a factory installed Lippert Tri Glide Air Ride Pin Box by Trailair . This Pin has rollers that I believe are to absorb shock when braking. Can anyone clarify the purpose of these rollers?

I just purchased a 2012 Volvo 730 that I am contemplating singling but that is an issue for later. 

I know this has probably been debated before and I have searched for answers but I am still unclear on what I should do. I have read that I shouldn't have both an air ride hitch and an air ride pin as they can end up working against each other. I really don't want to spend the big dollars on an air ride hitch if I don't have to. If I really need one, do I need to also replace the air pin to a solid pin. I am very much wanting to install my Demco Recon hitch (or similar) on the truck and letting the air pin absorb the shock. Has anyone done this and is this a good idea or not? I realize that an air hitch is a better choice but I want to know if just the air pin will work and I also know that I can't use the Volvo's current hitch.

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Air pin boxes are a good product on lighter trailers, unfortunately, the people who sell these like to "stretch the truth". It boils down to the pin weight of the trailer vs. that single air bag. All airbags are rated at 100 psi for their maximum load, but work best 50% of that pressure (just like your car tires work best at 32 psi). The design window is between 40% and 60% or 40-60 psi. Easy to check on your hitch. Inflate it to the recommended working position and read the pressure. If it's between 40-60 psi you are good, if it's 75 psi you are on the hard side, at 80-90 psi you basically have a rock hard air bag, (like running your car tires at 50-60 psi). I've seen rows of heavy trailers sitting at dealerships with pin boxes, I'm sure the sales manager came up with the idea of nice "up-sell"  (these were not "free") to the customers, "you know if you get this rig you need one of these", what the customer needed was a truck mounted air hitch.

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Welcome to the site Happycampper.  You sound like someone I spoke with in Spragge Ontario a couple of weeks ago.  If so you don’t waste time.  hone eagle will be the other member you spoke with the week before.  FYI, phoenix2013 above is the original designer and manufacturer of the ET hitch considered by many here to be the best for heavy fifth wheels.  

 

Nigel

 

 

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Oh my, that is SWEET!  Welcome to the"dark side". 

Find out what your actual pin weight is, and decide accordingly.  We have a modest pin weight (about 4,000#) and are getting by with a three bag TrailerSaver, bought used.  If we get a heavier trailer, I'll spring for an ET hitch.

 

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Love the colour.  Maybe down the road you could add a copper vinyl stripe to the edge of your trailer graphics and tie it together.  Be careful, lots of us are here to help you spend your money.  
 

Nigel

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Nice ! 

A cushioned hitch(air or rubber) should be on a 'list', (the list never gets smaller).Listen to Henry ,if the air in the trailer  bags is approaching 70 psi -they might as well be solid there just isn't enough room for bigger/squisher bags - your choice .

Down the road from you is a campground owned by a long time ontario HDT'er he has his finger on the resources and what's easy or not because of your location, wait for the season to slow a bit and call him.

When you get a chance get your campground into the resourse  guide as a good HDT stop - on the transcanada  etc etc.

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Thanks to everyone for taking time for this question even though the answer was always painfully obvious... $$$. I was just hoping there was someone out there that had done this and had great results. I will hitch my fiver to my Ford to check the pressure on the air bag and see what happens. And don't worry I knew what I was getting myself into...

I will try and list my campground soon. Thanks.

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Hmm, isn't it a coincidence 🤔, I just came back from the Post Office after mailing two Jackalopees to Canada. one of them was addressed to go to Spragge, Ontario.

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