brunsje Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 After upgrading my Steers to a 9" rim and 315 tires, I have a spare set of 8.25" rims on 295 tires. I would welcome your ideas on carrying one of them as a spare in case I blow a steer. I have room in my pickup truck bed (towed behind the motorhome). I realize most of you are using your HDT to tow a Fifth Wheel. Thanks as always, JohnnyB 2014 ShowHauler Motorhome 45' Jacksonville Beach, FL 32250 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Johnny, See no reason you couldn't do that but most of us HDTers don't carry a spare, just good roadside assistance. Other problem if you plan to change yourself, you'll need a 1" impact wrench, a way to operate the impact (air or electric), a heavy duty jack, and someway to lift and tote around a 100+ lb tire. Tall order unless you're Arnold Schwarzenegger in his heyday. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunsje Posted January 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 My thought was to make the spare available to the Roadside Assistance Towing or Service Folks. But it may not be necessary since tires/rims are available pretty quickly. 1 or 2 day shipping is the longest I have seen. Since many of us are retired, no problem waiting a bit; We can live in our rigs. I'll have a pair of steers available if anybody wants them. 25,000 miles on 'em. Tire dates are May 2013. JohnnyB 2014 ShowHauler Motorhome 45' Jacksonville Beach, FL 32250 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 My thought was to make the spare available to the Roadside Assistance Towing or Service Folks. But it may not be necessary since tires/rims are available pretty quickly. 1 or 2 day shipping is the longest I have seen. Since many of us are retired, no problem waiting a bit; We can live in our rigs. I'll have a pair of steers available if anybody wants them. 25,000 miles on 'em. Tire dates are May 2013. JohnnyB Not a bad idea in that scenario. Roadside assistance bringing a tire to mount on your rim or already mounted on their rim is going to be much more expensive than just going in at a tire store and getting a flat repaired or even purchasing a tire. Maybe some one else can answer the question whether roadside will just mount one of their tires just to get you to a tire dealer or do you always have to buy at the roadside. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 I have 4 rear tire rims left over after singling. Have not considered a spare. 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 We had to buy their tire roadside. During the phone call though, they gave us choice of brand and price range. Price wise, Loves was about $20 more on the Toyo brand steers than others I priced checked later. Not going to argue about $20 when the guy did all the work alongside I-40 in Nashville. Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 We had to buy their tire roadside. During the phone call though, they gave us choice of brand and price range. Price wise, Loves was about $20 more on the Toyo brand steers than others I priced checked later. Not going to argue about $20 when the guy did all the work alongside I-40 in Nashville. Good info. 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skp093018 Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 I carried a spare steer tire for 8 years, never had to use it, but my thought was it was a match to what I had on the truck, I had the room to carry it, and I would not be forced to buy their tire while I was on the side of the road. Regards Gemstone1 '06 Elite Suites, '08 Softail Classic, '06 Softail Deuce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Gell Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 We had to buy their tire roadside. During the phone call though, they gave us choice of brand and price range. Price wise, Loves was about $20 more on the Toyo brand steers than others I priced checked later. Not going to argue about $20 when the guy did all the work alongside I-40 in Nashville. Jim, I need to test my understanding. Are you saying that Love's roadside assistance gave you a good choice of tires and charged you $20 more for the Toyo tire you chose than what you would have paid if you had shopped around for a better price on that Toyo tire? If that is the case, seems like it would not be worth carrying a spare. Jim 2001 Volvo 770, Detroit 60 Series, Gen 2 Autoshift Passenger assist elevator to enter cab - for when we need it, or sell it? '05 Travel Supreme Select 40 RLQSO 5th wheel 2016 smart car We started full timing on December 1st 2014 Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness - Mark Twain Not all that wander are lost - J. R. R. Tolkien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Yes, that's what I'm saying. Called the roadside service number and told them what I needed- front steer. They connected to the local Loves nearest us in Nashville and the manager there ran down the list of what they had in stock...... from Michelins to Chinese brands I never heard of. I told him something that won't break the bank but has good life and tread for all weather. He suggested the Toyo. After we got settled for the evening, I started Googling the tire and local price, Love's was only $20 more for the tire and mounting. Now the roadside call was pricey, but Coachnet took care of that. Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shorts Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Once you get into the 295, 8.25 plus tire sizes availability aloud become an issue while on the road, a 275 or 295 tire on a 8.25 rim could/would be a challenge to air up roadside and your weight carrying capacity would probably be down rated. The 14 or 16k front axle on Showhauler presents you with a different perspective when it comes to steer tires compared to a stsndsrd HDT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hewhoknowslittle Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 I carried around a spare for 5 years on a old tire, aged out many years before I tossed it, no more. It was a pain in the a$$ most of the time. Now I have the credit to get a service provider to haul it to me, install it. That being said, not needing one for 15 years that I carried that spare around for no reason, so in my opinion , ditch the the spare, keep 500.00 in reserve and drive on. Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncohauler Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 If you have them carry them!!! Just MO but if you have a empty pickup bed. Why wouldn't you? Why take a chance on the tire guy having what you need? Tires don't always give up in the most ideal spot like next to a beach camping spot next to the marguerite bar. For most of us it's on the freeway our a tight two lane highway. If I have the room I'll have the tire at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brunsje Posted January 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Would you carry only one? It would seem to be overkill to carry two? JohnnyB 2014 ShowHauler Motorhome 45' Jacksonville Beach, FL 32250 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoosterBooster Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Johnny if you travel a lot off of the major highways i would carry a spare... if not i would do what Roger suggested many pro Drivers carry a non-mounted spare , just so they get mounted what they want everywhere and dont need to relay on whats available from the roadside assistance truck " Diamonds R 4 ever " "class of`95" Pete 379 "Toterhome": Cummins N14, Super10, single axle, 278" WB, 162" sleeper ... sold current project; 1952 Diamond T, Cummins 8.3l @ 375hp/ 800ft lbs, single axle, 239" WB, 1954 Spartan 137" air ride sleeper .... full timing in a 39 foot "sticks & staples POS" Toyhauler (planing to build an all aluminum 42-45 foot replacement soon) ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDirectionHome Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 not needing one for 15 years that I carried that spare around for no reason, so in my opinion , ditch the the spare Mr. Murphy is laughing at you Hewhoknowslittle. You do know that the only reason you didn't need one was BECAUSE you had one. That just seems to be the way it works. Take those jumper cables out of your truck...dead battery. Take that jug of water out...sure to overheat. "There are No Experts, Do the Math!" 2014 Freightliner Cascadia DD16 600hp 1850ft-lb 18spd 3.31 260"wb SpaceCraft S-470 SKP #131740 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncohauler Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 I would only carry one. The wheel should be the same front and back, you just turn it around for inner or outer for the rear. You could also make a nice mount in the bed of your truck and polish the wheel so it looks professional not just thrown in there. Or take just the tire only no wheel it's a lot lighter but make some type a cover to go over the tire so it doesn't fill full of water or look bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broncohauler Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 If the tire service won't put your tire on the wheel I would be calling somebody else. Seems to me it would be the same as doing a flat repair and they can just charge you for a dismount remount. I've had to use tire service many times over the years with company trucks. And my first eight years as a driver was as a tow truck driver. And here's a few pointers to help make it easier for you and them. 1) know your exact location before calling. are you between on-ramp and offramp which ones? Mile marker or call box # 2) are you on the right shoulder or center divider? 3) what size is your tire and can it be repaired or will they need to bring you a tire? 4) what position tire are you having a problem with number one axle being the front number two or number three being the rear most? (An example would be #2 axle outside tire pass side) 5)they most likely will want the license number off the vehicle that has the flat tire. Be prepared with these first five it'll go along way towards faster and cheaper service. 6) get a rough idea of pricing before they come out when they see a nice shiny rig the price can go up. 7) if it's night time be prepared for an after hours service call approximately $80 8)these guys work really hard for not much $$ and are usually in a hurry with calls backed up. If it's night time I can guarantee you he was on call and they called and woke him up. Chances are he had already worked all day and would be going back in in the morning. Offer him something cold to drink if it's hot, or something hot to drink if it's cold. Homemade cookies or a ice cream sandwich go along way towards better service and better pricing. (Just like phill with Dr Pepper) 9) give the guy a tip, they never get them from company drivers. $10 towards a burrito is great. 10) make sure you ask them to be real careful with not dropping lug nuts in your shiny wheels. 11) If you have a DP or truck conversion with levelers on it, Raise the coach up off the ground so he does not have to use a jack when changing your tire. I won't say pricing is negotiable but he will charge what he feels the job is worth. They have set pricing for certain things but he can delete or add them as he pleases. Good luck Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Dreamer Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 We carried a mounted spare for the first couple of years because it came with the HDT. Two problems with it, it was way too heavy to lift up to and down off the bed and it was a drive tire which meant it could only be used on a rear axle. We have since changed to an unmounted steer tire that we picked up cheap and carry that in a rack behind the cab. Much lighter and now can be used on any axle. We still have the mounted tire but that stays at home now. Dave 2005 Freightliner Century S/T, Singled, Air ride ET Jr. hitch 2019 46'+ Dune Sport Man Cave custom 5th wheel toy hauler Owner of the 1978 Custom Van "Star Dreamer" which might be seen at a local car show near you! Check out http://www.hhrvresource.com/ for much more info on HDT's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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