Jim Corey Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 I know this topic has been discussed, but “search” didn’t bring it up. With all its quirks, DeLorme SA worked well for me. Is there a similar substitute? And please, Google maps is a great program, but NOT a substitute😕 Quote Jim Corey 2006 Monaco Monarch 30 pdd '12 Honda CRV toad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWharton Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 A lot of people recommend Co-Pilot. I have tried it and find it difficult to use. There is supposedly an RV setting but I never could find it. I also didn't like the display. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FL-JOE Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 To be honest I don't use any computer based mapping anymore to look at, or plan routes. I start by checking my I-phone mapping for a general idea. Sometimes I will use google maps on my I-phone and sometimes I use the trip planning tool on my Pilot/Flying J app. Then I go to my paper Trucker's Atlas. Quote Joe & Cindy Newmar 4369 Ventana Pulling 24' enclosed (Mini Cooper, Harley, 2 Kayaks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Second Chance Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 Google Maps for the first, general planning. Then the Mountain Directory (Eastern or Western) if we're going through places where grades and roads might be of concern. Then, using the information gathered above, set a course in our Garmin RV760 which makes sure we steer clear of low overpasses or bridges, restricted roads (have seen several of those in CA where we are at the moment), etc. This combo has kept us out of trouble for four years and 40K miles. Rob Quote 2012 F350 CC LB DRW 6.7 2020 Solitude 310GK-R, MORryde IS, disc brakes, solar, DP windows Full-time since 8/2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agesilaus Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 (edited) I still use SA for general navigation, the roads have not changed that much. But there are some alternatives: RV Plan'N-gets down to the backroad level showing Forest Roads in detail. It also show RV parks in detail. I find it is a pain in the butt to use for planing tho. It has a hostile Interface. And while it claims to have a navigation mode, it is worthless since it opens a tiny window that can not be expanded for navigation. Plus this is now dead software but you can still buy it on Amazon. RV Trip Wizard is a subscription service and works rather well for planning trip once you adjust to it's many quirks. The Interface is not highly developed but you can use it. You can put the height and length of your rig into it and it will route to avoid problems. I have not tried it for navigation but it supposedly does that by using a phone app. You can send the maps to google maps somehow. The developer is taking suggestions and it improving the interface so it may get better. There is an active forum on iRV2. So I looked and didn't find anything much. CoPilot is now a phone app only and I didn't like what I saw. These developers would do everyone a favor by sticking to the defined Windows GUI which SA and S&T both did. Edited September 30, 2019 by agesilaus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2gypsies Posted September 30, 2019 Report Share Posted September 30, 2019 We still use Street Atlas - an awesome program that doesn't require internet. We really don't have issue with incorrect information. We also use a paper atlas to see a bigger, more detailed picture. We love Benchmark series of road atlases for the western streets. It has everything on the map in great detail... public things, especially such as campgrounds, public parks, etc. We could never travel by just plugging in A to B and follow it on a GPS or phone. That's not the kind of traveling we do. We meander. Quote Full-timed for 16 YearsTraveled 8 yr in a 2004 Newmar Dutch Star 40' Motorhome and 8 yr in a 33' Travel Supreme 5th Wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Corey Posted October 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 I don’t think Street Atlas runs on later versions of Windows. Can’t find my original discs. I still have it on an older laptop (I think). May dig it out and see if there’s still life in it. It is too bad that a pretty good program was allowed to die. Obviously RVing is a limited market. Quote Jim Corey 2006 Monaco Monarch 30 pdd '12 Honda CRV toad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agesilaus Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 I'm running SA on Win10 currently patched right now, S&T also works as does RV Trip Wizard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 If you have a Garmin GPS you can use their BaseCamp program. I don't usually plan very far ahead so tend to still use a paper road atlas on a daily basis. Quote Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2gypsies Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 Base Camp is awful! Quote Full-timed for 16 YearsTraveled 8 yr in a 2004 Newmar Dutch Star 40' Motorhome and 8 yr in a 33' Travel Supreme 5th Wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted October 1, 2019 Report Share Posted October 1, 2019 I get along fine with Co Polit Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Corey Posted October 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 I found my SA 2015 discs.🙂 Installed in Windows 10 fine. Now I have to relearn. Overall, I like the program (I’ve had it for years, updated annually), but it’s not intuitive at times. Thanks all for the input. Quote Jim Corey 2006 Monaco Monarch 30 pdd '12 Honda CRV toad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhs4771 Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 I'm also still running SA 2015, but recently trying to plan our round about trip South, I've found numerous routes that don't show up on SA. I've searched high and low for a replacement but haven't found anything close. So I've recently purchased a Garmin RV 785, so far I like it as it will let you zoom in and change the route to your liking. I don't like those where you just enter a location and it gives you a route which you have no control over. Quote Michelle & Ann 2018 Chevy 3500HD High Country DRW 4X4 Crew Cab w/Duramax/Allison, 2016 Redwood RW39MBL, Disk Brakes, MORryde IS & Pin Box, Comfort Ride Hitch, Level-Up Auto Level System, 17.5" Sailun H Tires, Onan 5.5K Genny, Dual ACs with Heat Pumps, Winegard Travler Slimline Automatic Dish, Splendide Stacked Washer/Dryer, Sleep Number bed, Residential Fridge and Induction Cook Top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Panagako Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 I had used SA since it came out. I can't find a similar program for phone numbers you can sort by SIC code. That's what I need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agesilaus Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 There is no direct replacement, MS Streets and Trips is also discontinued. Trip Wizard is the best trip planning and nav package now but it is part of a subscription that incl uses cg reviews and is a pricey $60/yr. I get it for free since I;ve submitted over 200 reviews. Lots of people drop back to goggle maps which is free but not very good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2gypsies Posted October 21, 2023 Report Share Posted October 21, 2023 Wow! This post is 4 yr. old!! Maybe start a new post with your specific needs. Quote Full-timed for 16 YearsTraveled 8 yr in a 2004 Newmar Dutch Star 40' Motorhome and 8 yr in a 33' Travel Supreme 5th Wheel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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