chief916 Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 So my maxbrake control is trashed. Bought the DirecLink but I think that both these controllers Delphi harnesses are using the same wiring diagram. Can anyone who has the Maxbrake tell me what function each of the 4 wires control? I know black wire is power and blue wire is trailer brakes and I think red wire is for brake light and white maybe ???? I don't know. Not a real whiz at electrical. Just want to know if I can just plug the DirecLink into the Maxbrake harness?. They look similar in color and connection function. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar274 Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Found this in the Resource Glide. http://www.hhrvresource.com/node/69 Hope this helps Bob Bob&Kay 2012 VNL730 I Shift D13 2.47 ratio 2018 Mobile Suites 40 kssb4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chief916 Posted February 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Radar274 said: Found this in the Resource Glide. http://www.hhrvresource.com/node/69 Hope this helps Bob Bob....I had already checked the resource guide and although they mention the Maxbrake and the DirecLink and how they function there's no definitive as to whether a person can just go in and remove just the Maxbrake control head and sensor...and install the DirecLink controller using the same Maxbrake Delphi wiring harness. When I bought my truck several years ago it already had the Maxbrake system installed and not having any electrical knowledge o what wires go to what....both harnesses look identical...4 wires each all same colors and pigtails. I'm thinking that the harness and the way it's connected into the truck will work for both brake controller's. Thank you for taking the time to have past your information on to me. I'm going to try connecting and if it works....or not...I will post results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noteven Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 When the Maxbrake controller in my won ton Dodge failed I plugged a DirecLink directly into the truck’s factory Delphi plug. This does not answer your question “which wires do what?” of course, but it worked on me Dodge. "Are we there yet?" asked no motorcycle rider, ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJohns Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Call direct link. They seem to be real hands on. I think you can plug into the existing plug but I would call to verify. 2002 Beaver Marquis Emerald C-12 Cat 505 HP 2014 Volvo 630 D-13 I Shift SOLD 2017 New Horizons SOLD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chief916 Posted February 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 58 minutes ago, noteven said: When the Maxbrake controller in my won ton Dodge failed I plugged a DirecLink directly into the truck’s factory Delphi plug. This does not answer your question “which wires do what?” of course, but it worked on me Dodge. Ok. Worth a shot. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chief916 Posted February 10, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 56 minutes ago, Dan Johnson said: Call direct link. They seem to be real hands on. I think you can plug into the existing plug but I would call to verify. Will check with the DirecLink engineer. I've talked to him last week...when I was purchasing the unit. He seemed up to speed on the unit but didn't know that the harness was a Delphi. Thank you on input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Red is brake light signal, and white is ground. Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chief916 Posted February 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 21 hours ago, Alie&Jim's Carrilite said: Red is brake light signal, and white is ground. Jim I found the red wire on the Delphi connector just hanging out and not connected to anything. Went back and looked at the jackalopee and there is indeed a red wire connected to the brake light but I for the life of me can't find where that wire from under my dash is. Can I tap into the black or white wires that are attached to my brake light switch that is attached to my airbrake? I think once the red wire to the harness is properly connected then the DirecLink should power up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 I would say yes but I haven't laid eyes on your system or traced the wires. I don't know if Volvo was using their wiring or a combination on the "Volvo WIA" trucks. The Direct Link is fused and protected against miss-wiring. So I would hook it up and see. If it doesn't work, then try again. Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chief916 Posted February 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Alie&Jim's Carrilite said: I would say yes but I haven't laid eyes on your system or traced the wires. I don't know if Volvo was using their wiring or a combination on the "Volvo WIA" trucks. The Direct Link is fused and protected against miss-wiring. So I would hook it up and see. If it doesn't work, then try again. Ok.... I'm going to poke around with a test light and see what I can do. I assume that since it's a brake light wire current should run when I hit the brake. Once I find the wire I should be able to tap into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 You can also pick up the signal from the Jackolopee if you don’t want to cut the factory wiring. Nigel 2006 Volvo VNL 430, 2006 smart cabrio cdi, 2000 Triple E Topaz 30' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chief916 Posted February 11, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 hour ago, chief916 said: Ok.... I'm going to poke around with a test light and see what I can do. I assume that since it's a brake light wire current should run when I hit the brake. Once I find the wire I should be able to tap into it. Ok found the brake wire back to the jackalopee... didn't cut but just pushed my probe through the insulation..turned on the truck and plugged in the unit and the blue display came on. It kept searching through the screen trying to find my vehicle then after numerous attempts the screen would go dark. I believe my truck is to old. BUMMER!!!!!! I really wanted this controller. I know what the DirecLink engineer will tell me tomorrow when I call him....send it back. Anyway I can say that it doesn't work on the 1997 WIA. Someone...and I can't remember who told me, there's another controller out there that will work. If anyone has any suggestions, please don't hesitate to sing out. Thanks for everyone's input and help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 Bludot 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoDirectionHome Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 Was it the Hayes controller? http://www.hayesbc.com/products/controllers/air-actuated-controller/ "There are No Experts, Do the Math!" 2014 Freightliner Cascadia DD16 600hp 1850ft-lb 18spd 3.31 260"wb SpaceCraft S-470 SKP #131740 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chief916 Posted February 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 1 hour ago, NoDirectionHome said: Was it the Hayes controller? http://www.hayesbc.com/products/controllers/air-actuated-controller/ Yessir...that's the one. Got any info on it good or otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 https://www.etrailer.com/Brake-Controller/Hayes/HA100400C.html It works when it works. I've been thru 2 of them. Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chief916 Posted February 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Alie&Jim's Carrilite said: https://www.etrailer.com/Brake-Controller/Hayes/HA100400C.html It works when it works. I've been thru 2 of them. Are you still using this product? Do you have an alternate item you may be thinking about? I'm sending this DirecLink back in the morning. I'm giving the Hayes controller a hard look. I'm not aware of any other units that get the high marks that the Hayes and the DirecLink get. Would like your thoughts on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 I got my reservations about the Hayes unit. My brakes worked ok with my dually. Got Freightshaker, Jackolee, Hayes and had trouble with brakes locking. Never stopped it. Finally removed electric brakes, they looked new and magnets checked good. Put on disc and Bludot system and works great. Hayes still on truck, removed fuse. 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 Chief See if you can find someone that fixes electronics in your area and give them your MaxBrake and see what they can do. Even if it cost a couple of hundred I think it would still be worth it. Otherwise I think the Hayes is your only option unless you have hydraulic trailer brakes then you could go Bluedot. Nigel 2006 Volvo VNL 430, 2006 smart cabrio cdi, 2000 Triple E Topaz 30' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 17 hours ago, chief916 said: Are you still using this product? Do you have an alternate item you may be thinking about? I'm sending this DirecLink back in the morning. I'm giving the Hayes controller a hard look. I'm not aware of any other units that get the high marks that the Hayes and the DirecLink get. Would like your thoughts on this. Alan at Direct Link would never return my e-mails after I sent him my ABS PID codes, and other items requested. That was more than 6 months ago. The Hayes works, the new version has a circuit board instead of the potentiometer. Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chief916 Posted February 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 5 hours ago, Nigel said: Chief See if you can find someone that fixes electronics in your area and give them your MaxBrake and see what they can do. Even if it cost a couple of hundred I think it would still be worth it. Otherwise I think the Hayes is your only option unless you have hydraulic trailer brakes then you could go Bluedot. Nigel Thanks Nigel for the info but seeing as how I can get the Hayes for less than 250....I'm willing to forgo for the time being getting the MaxBrake fixed. That being said...I will be keeping my eyes open for a repair specialist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chief916 Posted February 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2018 Ok so I got the Hayes brake controller today. But sick with a cold so won't be doing much today. Once I'm up top shelf I'll go pick up some npt fittings and install this baby. Thank you to all for all your help. Obtw... Jim I don't know if you got my pm email or not. I tried to return to you but something went array. So sorry. But thanks Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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