Jump to content

Recomendation please


Recommended Posts

Hi Gang, total newbee to escapees. Herself and I are not quite ready to full time but are trading the bumper pull in for a much larger 5th wheel with multiple slides. For now we want to use it as a base in AZ until we get retire (if ever)We have owned every style and type of RV in the past 40 years and had some expensive lessons along the way. What I am hoping to get from y'all is some recommendations of well built long lasting brands and models. Every Rv manufacturer has a full selection of quality levels but I can't say in all my years that I have ever met an RV sales person that was unbiased and honest so I am turning to you guys the real users. I plan on having a 1 ton diesel dually for the tow vehicle so I should be able to pretty much pull anything within reason.

Thanks in advance for all and any advice.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I plan on having a 1 ton diesel dually for the tow vehicle so I should be able to pretty much pull anything within reason.



Unfortunately this may also be an expensive mistake. You need to be aware of all weights in order to decide which tow vehicle will work for the trailer you want. Pulling is one thing but more importantly is stopping. Newer 1 tons have a better capacity than the older ones, but it comes at a cost.


5th wheel trailers quality can be different from one year to another and from model to model within the same manufacturer. A lot will depend on what you are willing to spend. Spacecraft, New Horizons, Forks are just some of the well built full timer trailers. A lot all depends on what trailer has the features and floor plan you want. It is all about comprising.


2005 Freightliner Century S/T, Singled, Air ride ET Jr. hitch
2019 46'+ Dune Sport Man Cave custom 5th wheel toy hauler
Owner of the 1978 Custom Van "Star Dreamer" which might be seen at a local car show near you!


Check out http://www.hhrvresource.com/

for much more info on HDT's.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

As noted, know the limits of your truck. The tow rating as published by the manufacturers have some limiting footnotes. You also need to look at the pin weight of the trailer and the GVWR of the truck. You will usually reach the GVWR of the truck well before the GAWR.



Amateur radio operator, 2023 Cougar 22MLS, 2022 F150 Lariat 4x4 Off Road, Sport trim <br />Travel with 1 miniature schnauzer, 1 standard schnauzer and one African Gray parrot

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Appreciate the advice chaps, It's just that I don't intend to get anything bigger than a 1 ton dually diesel truck because of the costs and other limitations with a bigger tow truck than 1 ton.

Point is well taken though I will have to pick a fiver that works within the limitations of the truck. On first looks I should be fine in the 13-16K GVW which seems to be about where all but the biggest 40'+ rigs are which should give me plenty of choices. I am looking at a 2012 36.5 (measures 42') quad slide Cardinal right now. It has very little use and appears to be in perfect condition. Priced at 36K Just not sure yet though I will have to look at a whole bunch more before deciding.

Also while I am asking anyone have any recommendations for RV parks (long term ) in the cooler regions of Arizona.

Thanks to all.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Welcome to the Escapees club & forums! Glad to have you here as part of the group.


Let me suggest that before you make a choice of RV you might be wise to take a hard look at the RV Consumer Group who evaluate RVs and separate them by general use levels. While it has been a few years, we have known several who owned Cardinal fivers and found them to be of less than stellar quality with problems when used heavily. I have personally never owned one, but based upon those observations, I never will.

Good travelin !...............Kirk

Full-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.
Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure



Link to comment
Share on other sites

Keep in mind that the 'cooler' places in Arizona in the summer will be 'cold' in winter. You would be looking at the Flagstaff area and Payson, Show Low, Pinetop areas. Some parks close in the winter. Good luck!

Full-timed for 16 Years
Traveled 8 yr in a 2004 Newmar Dutch Star 40' Motorhome
and 8 yr in a 33' Travel Supreme 5th Wheel

Link to comment
Share on other sites

I have a 5th wheel made by Heartland and have been pretty happy with it. I am in my 5th year of ownership and my 3rd year of full time use. I also looked at Voyager and DRV. Lifestyle makes a good 5th wheel also.

2015 Itasca Ellipse 42QD

2017 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon Hard Rock Edition

2021 Harley Street Glide Special 


Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thank you so much for your replies, I have checked into all the information and manufactures you have suggested and joined\downloaded the RV consumer group reports. Fascinating stuff, I had no idea there were so many brands of fifth wheel. Also amazing to me was just how much a "top tier" fifth wheel can cost new and "previously owned"

I visited an RV dealership this weekend with new informed eyes and can certainly spot the quality versus the mediocre. So again thanks you guys I shall continue my quest.


Link to comment
Share on other sites

You are wise to get a 1 ton dually and it should handle 90% of the fifth wheels on the market. A few of the larger units do require a MTD. Some people like to have a HDT which is great for them, but it is by personal preference and not justifiable with any common sense reasoning. There are no fifth wheels made that REQUIRE a HDT to haul them as suggested by the camper manufacture. My son and I had a owner/operator business and are quite familiar with HDT's and they are needed in the commercial business but are very expensive to operate.


Link to comment
Share on other sites

Welcome to the site. I'm happy to see some planning ahead rather than hearing the familiar statement that dealer X said I could pull the RV with Truck Z.

The dually will be much more comfortable to drive and added safety if you blew a tire

I don't know the Make pickup or age you may be looking for but I will add this if you are going for a gas consider the large Blocks.

If you go for Ford they had problems with 6.0, 6.4 the 2011 6.7 diesels. Dodge has had good rating with the Cummin's Engines..

Another fact, the Difference between a newer F350 vs F450 is brakes. Basically identical truck but much heavy brakes on the F450.


40 foot fifth wheel

Clay & Marcie Too old to play in the snow

Diesel pusher and previously 2 FW and small Class C

Link to comment
Share on other sites

We enjoy Venture In in Show Low and spend time their every summer. But they do close during the winter even though people that live their say they now have very little snow. But it is still cold.

2007 Arctic Fox 32.5 rls for full-timing, now sold.

2014 Sunnybrook Sunset Creek 267rl for the local campgrounds now that we are off the road
2007 Silverado 2500 diesel

Loving Green Valley, AZ (just South of Tucson)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

  • 3 weeks later...

We travel with a couple who have a side patio. They like it as she is paranoid about snakes and likes to sit up off the ground in the mornings.

They dont really have a problem finding sites large enough but generally we all prefer to boondock.

<p>....JIM and LINDA......2001 American Eagle 40 '.towing a GMC Sierra 1500 4X4 with RZR in the rear. 1999 JEEP Cherokee that we tow as well.


Link to comment
Share on other sites


This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

RVers Online University



RV Destinations

Find out more or sign up for Escapees RV'ers Bootcamp.

Advertise your product or service here.

RVTravel.com Logo

  • Create New...