SIBERNUT Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 I took the plunge and bought the newer style VNL hood mirrors. I have driven them both, and like them much better than the erector set. What I need is a tracing from somebody that has them, so I mount them in the right spot. Anybody able to help? 2000 Volvo 635 A/S, N-14 Cummins"The Phoenix"'03 KA 38KSWB http://s918.photobucket.com/user/sibernut/library/?sort=6&page=1Furkids- Sibe's CH. Sedona & Tseika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
13speed Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 I took the plunge and bought the newer style VNL hood mirrors. I have driven them both, and like them much better than the erector set. What I need is a tracing from somebody that has them, so I mount them in the right spot. Anybody able to help? I cant help with a tracing but the truck I am buying comes with the "erector set" ones. I want to do the same thing you are doing. Can I ask if you got the black or chrome ones and how much they were? I will have to have a body shop fill and touch up the holes in the hood anyways so I might just have them mount the new ones if it is a PITA. Chris, Tracey, Aria & Lola 2018 Volvo VNR 400, D13 I-Shift 2018 NH 48' Majestic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke-E Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 It's not too difficult. There's a little bit of a ridge in the plate that goes on the inside of the hood, and there's some flexibility in how far forward you mount it (though further forward is better for getting a good view). Mine is the Depo version, in black, which can be had on Amazon for $120 here. There's also a $20 mounting bracket you'll need, which you'll see a little further down on that page. Note that the left and right brackets are different, and you'll need to buy the 4 nuts needed to hold them on (M6 if I remember right). Then, head over to the resource guide to add a camera to the mirror while you're at it. The one on the passenger mirror is more valuable than the mirror itself. I'd recommend a different camera now though--the manufacturer I used originally can't seem to figure out the difference between mirror and normal images. Here's what I've used since then: http://amzn.to/2cZEmaa 45' 2004 Showhauler -- VNL300, ISX, FreedomLine -- RVnerds.com -- where I've started to write about what I'm up to Headlight and Fog Light Upgrades http://deepspacelighting.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jeffw Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 http://www.advantagetruckparts.com/blog/tag/Hood+Mirrors has directions There is also a youtube video showing the install but i'm not able to find it right now. 2007 Volvo 780 Volvo D12D, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke-E Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 This might get you started........ http://www.advantagetruckparts.com/content/0610_001.pdf Yep. And they're the place to go to for the Depo ones. I deal with them quite a bit on headlights, and they've always been very easy to work with. As far as the instructions, I can't see the need to disconnect the battery or put it in neutral with the wheels chocked--you're not doing anything electrical. I also didn't remove the grille--just hopped up on the frame rail to mark and pilot drill the holes from the inside out. That was before they had the instructions posted though, so I was winging it based on a YouTube video. 45' 2004 Showhauler -- VNL300, ISX, FreedomLine -- RVnerds.com -- where I've started to write about what I'm up to Headlight and Fog Light Upgrades http://deepspacelighting.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffw Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 youtube video is 2007 Volvo 780 Volvo D12D, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff.Sloan Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 I have a question about this that I have been pondering. If one were to install side cameras, like this 4 camera kit from leviathan_holdings for example: http://www.ebay.com/itm/272319443648?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Would the hood mirrors still be needed? I'm inclined to think not, but HDTs are new to me so I could be completely wrong in my assumptions. Also, If/when I go the camera route - where is the best spot on the truck to install the two side cameras?Thanks, Jeff 2004 Volvo 630, Cummins ISX, Eaton 10 speed (air assist clutch), 3.71 3.07 rear locker, ET jr, 200" WB, GearMaster 2017 Forest River Sierra 372LOK Full time June 2017 DW, 2 kids, and 2 dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIBERNUT Posted September 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Thanks, guys! I feel very comfortable with just the mirrors, no camera. (I do have one on the dash looking fwd, CYA) On filling the holes, couple comments. Having done extensive work on almost every body panel, the hood is not "REAL" fiberglass. An adhesive like SEM or 3M Duramix will stick them together. But for holes, they tend to break loose and leave a ring in the paint. I have ground out a dish shape on the inside, and used FG cloth with Epoxy Resin (NOT polyester resin) to fill it. Then do the same on the outside, so the material has a wide surface to attach to, not just the hole. I got the mirrors as a trade for driving from my boss, but I think they're around $210 chrome w/ the plates off ebay. 2000 Volvo 635 A/S, N-14 Cummins"The Phoenix"'03 KA 38KSWB http://s918.photobucket.com/user/sibernut/library/?sort=6&page=1Furkids- Sibe's CH. Sedona & Tseika Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuke-E Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 I have a question about this that I have been pondering. If one were to install side cameras, like this 4 camera kit from leviathan_holdings for example: http://www.ebay.com/itm/272319443648?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT Would the hood mirrors still be needed? I'm inclined to think not, but HDTs are new to me so I could be completely wrong in my assumptions. Also, If/when I go the camera route - where is the best spot on the truck to install the two side cameras? Thanks, Jeff At least for me, my biggest blind spot is at the front of the truck. As soon as something is rear of the cab, I can see it easily in my regular side mirrors. The mirror over the passenger door (if I can ever figure out what I'm looking at) lets me see what's next to me, but nothing shows from about the A-pillar forward, particularly on the passenger side. From the hood mirror, I can see from roughly just above the top edge of the headlight housing back along the side of the hood, with a field of view that includes the next lane over. But I was disappointed that it wasn't convex enough to let me see the front corner of the truck, like some of the more spherical mirrors do (and that's why I added the camera). What it turns out I use the hood mirror for most is for seeing who's at the door when I'm sitting at my desk. Milo gets irritated if he stands at the door for very long without it opening for him. 45' 2004 Showhauler -- VNL300, ISX, FreedomLine -- RVnerds.com -- where I've started to write about what I'm up to Headlight and Fog Light Upgrades http://deepspacelighting.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickW Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Would the hood mirrors still be needed? I'm inclined to think not, but HDTs are new to me so I could be completely wrong in my assumptions. Also, If/when I go the camera route - where is the best spot on the truck to install the two side cameras? Thanks, Jeff Personally, I find the hood mirrors very handy. I am still more comfortable with the use of mirrors over the cameras except for the hitch/pin camera. I do have side view cameras. I only added them because my camera system does record video. So it does provide 270* (no rear road camera, it is pointed at hitch) view around me. Both of my side view cameras are mounted on the A pillar. I am very happy with the view I get from them. Where I have found the side cameras most useful is in the rain. As the rain water collects on my mirrors they are more difficult to see anything in. The side cameras may accumulate water/mist but it tends to fall off the lens quickly and the water gets too heavy to stay on the vertical surface of the lens. 2017 Entegra Anthem 44A SOLD - 2004 Volvo 780. 465hp and 10sp Auto Shift (from 2010~2017) SOLD - 2009 Montana 3400RL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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