RV_ Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 I'm seeing 500GB SSDs from the best makers now at around $100.00. I'm also reading about how fast the prices are dropping and the reliability going up. But this article is a great look at how and when. Excerpt: "Solid-state drives are making inroads as the default mass storage option in PCs. HP and Toshiba execs weigh in on when SSDs will finally overtake HDDs. A decade ago, 3.5-inch floppy disk drives stopped appearing as standard features in personal computers. Now, with the rise of solid-state drives, disposable memory cards, cloud storage, and ubiquitous Wi-Fi, the concept of traditional hard disk drives as standard options will probably be the next to end. There's no doubt that it will happen, according to officials at Hewlett-Packard, which had the second-highest worldwide PC market share in 2015, and Toshiba, which was the third-ranking hard disk manufacturer. The question is, when? HP and Toshiba officials both said the timing depends on when the capacity-to-cost ratio of solid-state drives (SSDs), which are very fast, can ever match that of hard disks, which are slower because they have moving parts. When that happens, then hard disks will join floppy disks, cassettes, paper tape, and punched cards in the proverbial bit bucket. HP's Mike Nash, vice president of the personal systems division, observed that niche products such as high-end gaming rigs, many corporate PCs, high-end laptops, and low-end laptops such as Chromebooks are already largely shipping with SSDs, not HDDs, as their standard configurations. That's true across the industry, not just from the Palo Alto, Calif. computing and printing giant. Still the majority of 2015's industry-wide sales of 288.7 million units, 18.2% of which are HP models, are just ordinary computers. Ever-growing file sizes in applications, operating systems, and multimedia are pushing the capacity increases at price points that SSDs can't currently match, Nash said. "Do I think that in N years everything will be SSD instead of rotating? The answer is ultimately yes, the question is when," Nash said. "It comes down to price versus function. We have a very diverse set of customers, and each type represents a different demand curve," he noted." More on the crazy sized SSDs and the industry leaders view of how it will evolve is in the article here: http://www.techrepublic.com/article/hard-drives-are-heading-the-way-of-floppies-but-when/?ftag=TRE684d531&bhid=19724681974700635514865380622813 RV/Derekhttp://www.rvroadie.com Email on the bottom of my website page.Retired AF 1971-1998 When you see a worthy man, endeavor to emulate him. When you see an unworthy man, look inside yourself. - Confucius “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” ... Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV_ Posted March 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 You must have bought way after me. My first one had no hard drives and two 5.25" floppies a Commodore 64, then my first MSDOS IBM box had a humongous 5MB drive, might have been 10. My 1998 era laptop running Windows 98SE had a 1.1GB drive and that was large. The RAM upgrade cost $1500.00 and I don't remember if that was for a 512MB stick I believe. RV/Derekhttp://www.rvroadie.com Email on the bottom of my website page.Retired AF 1971-1998 When you see a worthy man, endeavor to emulate him. When you see an unworthy man, look inside yourself. - Confucius “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” ... Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV_ Posted March 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xerE0pbJKQ RV/Derekhttp://www.rvroadie.com Email on the bottom of my website page.Retired AF 1971-1998 When you see a worthy man, endeavor to emulate him. When you see an unworthy man, look inside yourself. - Confucius “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” ... Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim & Wilma Posted March 22, 2016 Report Share Posted March 22, 2016 Got you all beat. First computer was a Heathkit H11 built around a DEC LSI11 processor. Memory storage was punched paper tape. . . . where I learned all about hanging chad way before the 2000 election. Jim & Wilma 2006 Travel Supreme 36RLQSO 2009 Volvo VNL730, D13, I-shift, ET, Herrin Hauler bed, "Ruby" 2017 Smart Class of 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yarome Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 Interesting thread. Brings back memories. I'm not even that old but my first computer used a standard single sided cassette tape and machine code. When 86-DOS came out that was just the 'bees-knees'! Only the "cool" nerds had 5 1/4" drives (probably their daddy's). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selah Posted March 23, 2016 Report Share Posted March 23, 2016 My first computer was a Timex-Sinclair. Used a TV for a monitor, ran Basic, and used a casette tape for storage. Next was a Leading Edge, maxed out to 640 K memory, two 5 1/4 floppies, and later a 30 meg RLL hard drive card. And it had a color monitor! Over locked the 8088 processor to 6 MHz. What speed and want could you possibly do with 30 meg of storage. Paired that with a 1200 baud modem. Awsome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortytwo Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 1981 - Atari 800 with 48K memory (32k memory board - to save a slot for memory expansion - cost $100 extra). Separately purchased 128k 5 1/4 floppy cost $500. Followed by Corona "luggable - 38#" clone with 2 single side 5 1/4 floppys. Overclocked the 8088 to 8mhz! Bargain price of $2,000! Seems like every computer I ever lusted for cost $2,000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV_ Posted March 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 My first storage was a clay tablet we wrote on when still moist and then fired. Occasionally they blew up just like today's. Seriously interesting reading folks thanks. RV/Derekhttp://www.rvroadie.com Email on the bottom of my website page.Retired AF 1971-1998 When you see a worthy man, endeavor to emulate him. When you see an unworthy man, look inside yourself. - Confucius “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” ... Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yarome Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 My first storage was a clay tablet we wrote on when still moist and then fired. Occasionally they blew up just like today's. Even then it was the same upgrade "game"... finger to stick to bone to reed to copper stylus's. Nice to see how much we've evolved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV_ Posted March 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 Naw I decided that since the price of bronze stylus tips was coming down I'd wait and then got one of them just as iron stylus' with 30,000 Strokes MTBF capacity started to come out. Then a few thousand years later I got a capacitive tip stylus, only to find I had to upgrade my tablet to one that used the lightning from the double slits in the wall. RV/Derekhttp://www.rvroadie.com Email on the bottom of my website page.Retired AF 1971-1998 When you see a worthy man, endeavor to emulate him. When you see an unworthy man, look inside yourself. - Confucius “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” ... Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yarome Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 I had to upgrade my tablet to one that used the lightning from the double slits in the wall. Ahhh.. a Tonatiuh.. We had an Amaterasu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV_ Posted March 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 OMG! RV/Derekhttp://www.rvroadie.com Email on the bottom of my website page.Retired AF 1971-1998 When you see a worthy man, endeavor to emulate him. When you see an unworthy man, look inside yourself. - Confucius “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” ... Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV_ Posted March 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Gods Mntom, Thus my jest back with OMG! Yarome is grasping at Ancient Aztec and Japanese godhead words. Just playing along, no meaning at all related other than ancient whatever. RV/Derekhttp://www.rvroadie.com Email on the bottom of my website page.Retired AF 1971-1998 When you see a worthy man, endeavor to emulate him. When you see an unworthy man, look inside yourself. - Confucius “Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” ... Voltaire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alie&Jim's Carrilite Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 First was a commodore-64, then a TRS-80 all in one machine... desktop portable! Then went to one of the first Macs... should have stayed in the Mac world but they were way too expensive. Alie & Jim + 8 paws 2017 DRV Memphis BART- 1998 Volvo 610 Lil'ole 6cyl Cummins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark and Dale Bruss Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 IBM 1620, no disk, card in, card out, temporary storage on magnetic tape. Please click for Emails instead of PM Mark & DaleJoey - 2016 Bounder 33C Tige - 2006 40' Travel SupremeSparky III - 2021 Mustang Mach-e, off the the Road since 2019 Useful HDT Truck, Trailer, and Full-timing Info atwww.dmbruss.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray,IN Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 The first computer I ran ( 1975) barely fit into the 20'X20' room, and used huge spools of tape. Input was with punch cards. (my brief stint as section NCOIC of the Army's computer on base) I don't remember anything else. Today your cell phone has multiple times more computing power than that monster. 2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD, ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA ." And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy 20 Jan 1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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