phoenix2013 Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Did some computer "cleanup" and archiving found this "gem" The very first hard wired Jackalopee. If memory serves me right it took a whole day and was mounted in the hydraulics bay on the original Phoenix bed Note the date on the photo 2009. After spending a day on it, there was a realization that this was nonsense, all these wires needed to be on a printed circuit board, hence this. Check the Copyright date on the PCB (bottom right corner) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 Henry, I have a Gen 1 and still going strong. Quote 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darryl&Rita Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 I've built relay harnesses like the one pictured. Thanks for the foul taste in my mouth. Happy to see the progression to the current product. Quote I have been wrong before, I'll probably be wrong again. 2000 Kenworth T 2000 w/N-14 and 10 speed Gen1 Autoshift, deck built by Star Fabrication 2006 smart fourtwo cdi cabriolet 2007 32.5' Fleetwood QuantumPlease e-mail us here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix2013 Posted February 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 2 hours ago, SuiteSuccess said: Henry, I have a Gen 1 and still going strong. Gen 1 would be like this one. The board had heavy gauge wires for the brake and charging circuits on the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted February 15, 2020 Report Share Posted February 15, 2020 I had a gen 1 until I did something stoopid and let water get in it. Henry then sent me a newer board and it's doing fine. Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuiteSuccess Posted February 16, 2020 Report Share Posted February 16, 2020 3 hours ago, rickeieio said: I had a gen 1 until I did something stoopid and let water get in it. Henry then sent me a newer board and it's doing fine. Yea Rick, you and I are both Gen 1s. Does that mean we’re old farts? Quote 2006 Volvo 780 "Hoss" Volvo D12, 465hp, 1650 ft/lbs tq., ultrashift Bed Build by "JW Morgan's Custom Welding" 2017 DRV 39DBRS3 2013 Smart Passion Coupe "Itty Bitty" "Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickeieio Posted February 16, 2020 Report Share Posted February 16, 2020 1 hour ago, SuiteSuccess said: Yea Rick, you and I are both Gen 1s. Does that mean we’re old farts? Oh, I'd say there are a LOT of reasons we're olde phartes. But, I'm in good company.👍 Getting old was fun. It's being old that sucks. Quote KW T-680, POPEMOBILE Newmar X-Aire, VATICAN Lots of old motorcycles, Moto Guzzi Griso and Spyder F3 currently in the front row Young enough to play in the dirt as a retired farmer. contact me at rickeieio1@comcast.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix2013 Posted February 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2020 There are certain advantages of being old, for instance it's OK for one to express yourself. Particularly when presented with "challenges" to be replaced with a Jackalopee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix2013 Posted February 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 Glen, take a peek at these, couldn't post these in messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 Thanks, Henry. That gives me soome ideas. I want to buld mine with just pulleys and winch. Also bolt to top of bed. Mountain Masters build one like that. Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix2013 Posted February 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 I studied the Mountain Master approach (and many others). Most of them kind of "flop over" when the center of gravity comes over the edge during loading. This system controls the loading mass with hydraulic cylinders, in both directions, 100% of the time. This was during one of my "retirement" (one of many) periods in 2008-9, plenty of time on my hand and restless brain. About 6 months of intense engineering and year and half to that prototype. The truck is still around on a second owner in Arizona, good friends of ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 Noticed that too. Yours is very smooth. Don't want to cut up bed either. Want that under bed area for a water bladder. Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenix2013 Posted February 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 Most beds are 5 inches thick, this one is 8 inches thick that's what is required for all the hydraulics and the sliding rails. Found a nice series of pictures of the "sequence". Starts going up straight. Unequal front and rear arms start tipping it over. It's over and the edge, lot's of hydraulic "oomph" required to get it to this point, over 30,000 pounds Ramp start coming out Ramp starts "flattening out" All unloaded, happy new owner. Incidentally that's Donnie Barnes, I showed up a year and half later (after he gave me keys to this truck and this Smart) and handed to him the remote. He and his partners brought over from Sweden the Red Hat software and developed industrial applications for it, he was retired at 29, "playing". Very nice (and patient) individual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted February 17, 2020 Report Share Posted February 17, 2020 My bed is only 4" actual bed. 3/4" angle iron on rails that bed bolts to. So definitly no room for hydraulics. Frieghtshakers don't have the drop when air dumped that Volvos do. Mine have to be on top of bed. Quote 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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