Chesters Dad Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 My current truck 2007 dodge 2500 shows 13k for its tow capacity. We are looking at a trailer with a gross weight of 12,400 (10195 and ccc 2205). I think I have read that one needs a 10% leeway on what you tow. is the 10% a real number and can I add anything to the truck to help my numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Saran Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 Possible rear air bags? Phil & Alberta Saran 2019 Keystone Cougar 30RLS 2012 Dodge Ram 3500 4x4 diesel Colorado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDBirdman Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 What's the pin weight for the camper? I figure between 2600 to 3k. What can you haul in the bed? Have to also figure in the hitch weight, weight of yourself/passengers, fuel, pets, anything else you carry in the cab. It can add up fast. I had a 3/4 ton pick-up and after I figured up what I would be at, I sold it and bought a 1 ton dually. GVW is lots different than GVCW. 2002 Fifth Avenue RV (RIP) 2015 Ram 3500 Mega-cab DRW(38k miles), 6.7L Cummins Diesel, A668RFE, 3.73, 14,000 GVWR, 5,630 Payload, 27,300 GCWR, 18,460 Max Trailer Weight Rating(For Sale) , living in the frigid north, ND. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesters Dad Posted January 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 Pin weight is 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDBirdman Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Chesters Dad said: Pin weight is 2015 Figure at 20%, which is low, and your at 2480 unless my math is off. Depending on the camper, it can go as high as 25%. 2002 Fifth Avenue RV (RIP) 2015 Ram 3500 Mega-cab DRW(38k miles), 6.7L Cummins Diesel, A668RFE, 3.73, 14,000 GVWR, 5,630 Payload, 27,300 GCWR, 18,460 Max Trailer Weight Rating(For Sale) , living in the frigid north, ND. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NDBirdman Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 Best I can suggest, load it up like your going camping and drive across a scale that shows what each axle weighs. It might surprise you. What is the trucks GVW? Here's how I figured mine out: Weight of truck: My weight: Passengers weight: Pet's weight: Amount of fuel times 8lbs per gallon: Weight of extras in cab, clothes, food/drink/etc: Weight of hitch: Weight of any tools carried in truck: If tires are bigger than stock (oversized), figure out how much heavier: Add that, then subtract from GVW (on sticker by drivers door) and it will tell you how much is left for pin weight. This is different than what truck can pull. I have seen lots of 3/4 tons pull bigger/heavier trailers, many can do it easily. Flat land, no problem, but I would not want to pull over-weight through hills/mountains. In the end, it's up to you. Heavy, can wear your truck, brakes and tires out much faster. Not trying to sound negative, but ya gotta be safe. 2002 Fifth Avenue RV (RIP) 2015 Ram 3500 Mega-cab DRW(38k miles), 6.7L Cummins Diesel, A668RFE, 3.73, 14,000 GVWR, 5,630 Payload, 27,300 GCWR, 18,460 Max Trailer Weight Rating(For Sale) , living in the frigid north, ND. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpsinc Posted January 23, 2018 Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 I have used the Trailer Life towing guide which provides good info for towing with different TV. While we all have to consider that any TV that CAN pull a certain weight trailer doesnt mean that it SHOULD. I see may 40' Toyhaulers loaded down being towed with F250/2500 trucks. Yes the drivetrain may do a good job of pulling it but that isnt where the capacities are the most important. Its stopping and managing that weight during incidents. For example: I have a 2007 GMC CC dually with a Duramax/Allison. Its rated tow capacity for 5th wheels is 16,500#. The same truck on todays chassis is much higher due to engineering changes. But its still a LDT pulling a HEAVY load and I wont do it. I use an MDT to tow trailers UNDER 20K#s Marcel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynosback Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Personally, I would not like to tow at my max limit. Better to have to much truck to handle the load. It makes hauling so much better. 2015 Ram 3500 RC DRW CTD AISIN 410 rear 2016 Mobile Suites 38RSB3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenp Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 The manufacturer tow rating (your 13k) is (most likely) with only 1/4 tank of fuel and a driver only in the truck. Lenp USN Retired 2002 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom 2012 F150 4x4 2018 Lincoln MKX 2019 HD Ultra Limited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynosback Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 3 hours ago, lenp said: The manufacturer tow rating (your 13k) is (most likely) with only 1/4 tank of fuel and a driver only in the truck. Lenp And a driver I think weighing 150lbs. 2015 Ram 3500 RC DRW CTD AISIN 410 rear 2016 Mobile Suites 38RSB3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeBeFulltimers Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 I see a 1 ton truck for you in my crystal ball. BTW air bags don't increase your truck's capacity but will level rig and improve ride. Fulltiming since September 1, 2010 2012 Ford F-350 PSD SRW Lariat Crew Cab 2012 Montana 3585SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeMayAl Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 Within the last 2 weeks we upgraded our TV. We went from a 2010 F250 Super Duty Power Stroke SRW, with 49k on the odometer, to a 2018 Ram 3500HD DRW. Our 2018 KZ Durango Gold 380FLF, 41' long, GVWR 14995. The 5th was just within the specs of the truck. The truck handled the trailer well, starting and stopping, struggled on some hills and long grades. Our current trip from Atlantic City, NJ to Yuma, AZ was uneventful, except that I did notice some oil drips. By the time the we got to Yuma, the drips had gotten worse, with no apparent decrease on the dip stick. Getting under the truck, I noticed wet oil from the pan to the transmission, and definitely motor oil. Repairing the leak, considering the worse, would mean removing the cab, removing the engine, flipping it over, r&r, reassembly. $$$ I'm sure. Although low mileage, 7 year old truck, pulling 15k 5th wheel - we considered another truck. New trucks seem to have lower capacities for the same models. We decided a new higher capacity DRW would be better. Rams cheaper $$ than Fords, better creature comforts = better value. Ram 3500HD DRW keeps us well within the truck's specs with our 5th. Add to that a Cummings engine. We haven't towed yet, since we're here to end of March, but I'm confident we'll have no problems. We just came back from Quartzsite, AZ. Although not big hills, etc., and not towing, there was absolutely no impact on the truck's performance that I could discern. Rule of them has always been, match the truck to the trailer, not the other way around, and you can never have enough truck. I, personally, would only go with a long bed. My feelings, and hope I helped. Safe travels. Skp #98641 2018 Ram 3500 Heavy Duty Laramie CC DRW LB 2018 Durango Gold 380FLF 5th WheelMy Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynosback Posted January 24, 2018 Report Share Posted January 24, 2018 9 hours ago, WeBeFulltimers said: I see a 1 ton truck for you in my crystal ball. BTW air bags don't increase your truck's capacity but will level rig and improve ride. Glad that I am not the only one that thinks this. When ever I say it, people call me the weight police. Nice to see another brother in blue. 2015 Ram 3500 RC DRW CTD AISIN 410 rear 2016 Mobile Suites 38RSB3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeMayAl Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 4 hours ago, rynosback said: Glad that I am not the only one that thinks this. When ever I say it, people call me the weight police. Nice to see another brother in blue. X 2 Skp #98641 2018 Ram 3500 Heavy Duty Laramie CC DRW LB 2018 Durango Gold 380FLF 5th WheelMy Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobsallyh Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 Golly, Cape May Al, is this going to be another vehicle we see all over the map with a license plate frame that says "Fisher-Yuma, Az.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeMayAl Posted January 25, 2018 Report Share Posted January 25, 2018 LOL. Nah. The frame will say "Owned by Cardigan Welsh Corgis" ! Skp #98641 2018 Ram 3500 Heavy Duty Laramie CC DRW LB 2018 Durango Gold 380FLF 5th WheelMy Email Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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