Caiyenne Posted September 10, 2016 Report Share Posted September 10, 2016 Hi all. I recently joined Escapers/Escapees Club. I'm interested in exploring the full time RV lifestyle. I have been reading about this for a couple of months now and now I'm ready to make some concrete plans and move forward. I do not yet own an RV. My budget will be about 60K for new or used model. I'm leaning toward a Class C because I do not like driving HUGE vehicles and do not want to tow anything. I live in the Philadelphia area and I will not be able to travel much except weekends and vacation times because I am working full time. This week there is a huge RV show event in Hersey PA that I plan to attend. This will give me the opportunity to see first hand many different RV makes and models. i welcome any advice you guys can give me as a newbie just started out! I'm particularly interested in hearing from any of you that have experience full timing in the Northeast area of the country.Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clay L Posted September 10, 2016 Report Share Posted September 10, 2016 When you say you want to live full time in a motor home, do you mean in the Philadelphia area? Clay(WA5NMR), Lee(Wife), Katie & Kelli (cats)Full timed for eleven years in our 2004 Winnebago Sightseer 35N Workhorse chassis. Snowbirds for 1 year. Now settled down in western CO.Honda Accord toad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caiyenne Posted September 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2016 Clay L, Yes, this is where I work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sculptor Posted September 10, 2016 Report Share Posted September 10, 2016 This week there is a huge RV show event in Hersey PA that I plan to attend. This will give me the opportunity to see first hand many different RV makes and models. Attend an early day, the sales people aren't worn out and packing up to leave yet. Beware of the new unit depreciation factor. I think I read 5 years old depreciates half, 10 years old more than 2/3s. Kevin and June 2013 Volvo VNL 730 D13 Eco-Torque @ 425 Ratio 2.47 2014 DRV 36TKSB3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted September 10, 2016 Report Share Posted September 10, 2016 Welcome to the Escapee forums! We will do our best to help and support you in any way that we may be able. Very few RVs make very good homes in cold winters and the class C is particularly true in this issue. Very often there is plumbing that is exposed to the winter cold and most class C RVs do not have their waste tanks in heated locations. In addition, there are probably very few RV parks in that area that stay open all winter. I suggest that you think very carefully before you begin this venture. Living in an RV in the cold of winter takes a lot of planning and preparation. It can be done, but it probably won't be much fun. Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vt3fan Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 Well said Kirk. My thoughts exactly. Rick & Mary Sorensen Molly - Boston Terrier 2016 Ford F350 DRW 6.8 L diesel 2016 Mobile Suites 36RSSDB3 Full Timers w/ SD Residency Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caiyenne Posted September 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 Thanks for the advice guys! Sculptor57 - I plan to attend on Friday and the show runs through Sunday I believe so hopefully they wont be too worn out when I get there. You are right about depreciation being a real problem. I really hope to find a used RV that has already taken the hit. Unless there are VERY COMPELLING new features on the current year models, I see no reason to buy new. Kirk - Very sage advice. The weather was my #1 concern when I first considered getting the RV and still is! I didn't even think it was possible to do this in my area until found out about people who are doing it and how they are able to do it. So for this first winter, I will buy the unit that provides some of the needed features for winterization and/or make modifications to the unit to make this possible. I have budgeted for mods as well. I also plan to do a winter trial before I give up my brick and mortar residence to be sure it's a fit for me. Worse case scenario is that it totally sucks and I have to store the RV for the winter and just use it in the spring/summer/fall... until I retire or switch to my dream job that will let me travel! As far as RV parks,I live in an outer suburb. This part of the county has five (year round) manufactured mobile home communities, two of which I confirmed rent RV lots. Also Identified a few RV parks in NJ and nearby PA counties that rent year round. Always good to have a few options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Joyce Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 This was in Post Falls ID. An example of a Class C set up for cold weather. 2004 40' Newmar Dutch Star DP towing an AWD 2020 Ford Escape Hybrid, Fulltimer July 2003 to October 2018, Parttimer now. Travels through much of 2013 - http://www.sacnoth.com - Bill, Diane and Evita (the cat) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caiyenne Posted September 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 Bill Joyce, that is an awesome pic. Look at that huge tank! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimalberta Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 Again as Kirk stated it can be done but its not fun. If I were forced to live in an RV through a cold winter I think I would try to find a heated shop of some kind that I could park the MH in side and still live in it. There would be some air quality issues but they can be dealt with. <p>....JIM and LINDA......2001 American Eagle 40 '.towing a GMC Sierra 1500 4X4 with RZR in the rear. 1999 JEEP Cherokee that we tow as well. IT IS A CONTENTED MAN WHO CAN APPRECIATE THE SCENERY ALONG A DETOUR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lappir Posted September 11, 2016 Report Share Posted September 11, 2016 Again as Kirk stated it can be done but its not fun. If I were forced to live in an RV through a cold winter I think I would try to find a heated shop of some kind that I could park the MH in side and still live in it. There would be some air quality issues but they can be dealt with. I would second that idea, but with the caveat that you use only electric heating sources inside the RV and for heating the water. Would not take long in an enclosed building for the c0to build up to dangerous levels inside a building with a propane furnace and gas water heater running. You may be able to get by using your gas range, but appropriate ventilation would be a must. I cannot imagine the rental cost of an enclosed heated building compared to average apartment or home rentals in the area. It will not be a "money saving " activity. Rod White 2000/2010Volvo VNL 770 with 7' Drom box with opposing doors, JOST slider hitch. 600 HP Cummins Signature 18 Speed three pedal auto shift. 1999 Isuzu VehiCross retired to a sticks and bricks garage. Brought out of storage the summer of 2022 2022 Jeep Wrangler Sport S Two door hard top. 2023 Triumph Tiger 1200 GT Explorer 2013 Space Craft Mfg S420 Custom built Toyhauler The Gold Volvo is still running and for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk W Posted September 12, 2016 Report Share Posted September 12, 2016 A few things that will be very important to look for in an RV to spend a cold winter are things like dual pane windows with thermally broken window frames. (This helps to insulate and also to prevent excessive condensation.) Fully enclosed waste tanks and plumbing with a means of heating the space where tanks and plumbing are located. (With the Coachman in the picture it would be necessary to heat the space under the RV to prevent freezing.) As much insulation in walls and ceiling as you can possibly get and an insulated floor if at all possible. You will also need some means of removing moisture from the air inside during cold weather as your living activities will contribute as much moisture to the air as in a stick house but with perhaps 20% as much air volume. If possible, 50A power cord and system to allow you to use at least one and perhaps two electric heaters to supplement the heat of the propane furnace. As you noted that propane tank in the picture above, that is a 100 gallon propane tank that was connected into the RV with additional gas lines that must be added later because an RV typically has less than 20 gallons of usable propane capacity and you can expect to use as much as 20 gallons of propane per week in very cold weather. The tank shown in the picture is usually rented from a propane supplier and the propane is delivered. At current prices, I would expect to spend at least $200/month for propane. Good travelin !...............KirkFull-time 11+ years...... Now seasonal travelers.Kirk & Pam's Great RV Adventure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV_Fan44 Posted September 20, 2016 Report Share Posted September 20, 2016 This was in Post Falls ID. An example of a Class C set up for cold weather. Looks great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamRad Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Caiyenne, Welcome. You are starting out well! The Escapees is about as good as it gets. Some great people with an unbelievable amount of knowledge and experience. Enjoy. Dennis Trailer: Montana 5th wheel, model 3582Rl, model year 2012 Truck: Ford 450 PSD Super Duty, 2002 Crew Cab, Long bed, 4:88 rear end, last of the 7.3 engines, Automatic Transmission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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