GlennWest Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 I have this unit in my Teton and it is factory. I did add my fridge to subpanel only change I have made. Just pulled wire from main panel and down to sub after adding breaker. Simple. It worked. Yesterday we had bad storms here and lost power for hours. Inverter didn't kick in. Had no 110 on 12 volts in Teton. The remote still showed idle like it does when power is present. Had noticed when I towed to Livingston from Convent that fridge showed power lost and ice cream soft. Previously it had been working. What do ya'll recommend I try or time to upgrade? The inverter shows standby now also. Couldn't check it during storm. Bad one. 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yarome Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 What exactly is showing on your panel leds? Ie., solid, blinking, on/off... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted May 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 I have the Freedom Remote Control Panel. Shows battery charge full. 13.5v. Invert light blinking slowly. Incoming 50 amps. When I lost power it showed no ac in (light out). Invert chart never when up. Stayed at idle (<10) 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yarome Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Not considering the levels.. just the button led's.. you shouldn't be showing anything other than invert-blinking/solid green and charge-blinking/off. Everything else should be off as well and no red's at all.. It sounds like that is what you are saying.. so that would tend to make me think you might have a problem with the internal transfer switch (not closing when AC current is no longer applied). You could shut down the inverter and rapidly apply and then cut 120v to your rig (all loads should be off) a couple of times and see if it will work the circuit loose so that it will close properly when 120v is off. Easiest to do by just throwing the main bus breakers on and off. Alternately.. If you feel comfortable identifying the insides you could remove the inverter casing and give the transfer switch a good rap (like with the handle of a screwdriver) to see if it will close. (No.. I'm not kidding. When they begin to fail sometimes a good rap will help the internal mechanism to return to it's unpowered state [closed]) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted May 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Makes sense. From everything I have been reading it is normal lights now. On remote and unit. Question about remote setting. I can go in setup mode and raise or lower DC amps via invert button. What should I set this on? It was set on <10. 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yarome Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Makes sense. From everything I have been reading it is normal lights now. On remote and unit. Question about remote setting. I can go in setup mode and raise or lower DC amps via invert button. What should I set this on? It was set on <10. You're correct. Sounds like normal function, but it's just not picking up the load (transfer switch isn't closing) when shore power is off like it should. <10 is the default and I would leave it there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yarome Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Be aware.. even if you can get the transfer switch to throw it's "likely" to happen again. It's not a given. It might perform normally for awhile, but eventually it will repeat itself. If it's under warranty, I would have it serviced. If not, then you'll have to decide between paying for a repair or going with a new inverter/charger. If you can "baby" it along a while longer though at least that would give you some time to collect your penny's. One thing you "can" do to lessen the wear on your switch is to only turn on your inverter when needed and after shore power has been disconnected. When going back on shore power.. reverse the process. Turn off the inverter 'then' plug into shore power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted May 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Yea, I been leaving it on. I started out shutting it off and DW didn't like loosing TV when power went out. So it got left on. Again that old saying If mama not happy.... Looks as though I need to shop for an upgrade. So what popular now? Mine is 2500 watt. I have 4 batteries though just marine grade. Know the Magnum was. 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docj Posted May 27, 2016 Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Be aware.. even if you can get the transfer switch to throw it's "likely" to happen again. It's not a given. It might perform normally for awhile, but eventually it will repeat itself. If it's under warranty, I would have it serviced. Several years ago our Xantrex Freedom began experiencing occasional failure modes. In our case they were related to the charger failing to charge the batteries. We were able to limp along for a couple of months by doing a full reset which involved disconnecting battery cables from the inverter for a few minutes and then reconnecting them. After a while we decided to replace the then 12 year old unit with a Magnum MS2800. It's a pretty straightforward replacement and the Magnum remote panel even connects to the same wire as did the Xantrex remote which simplifies installation. Sandie & Joel 2000 40' Beaver Patriot Thunder Princeton--425 HP/1550 ft-lbs CAT C-12 2014 Honda CR-V AWD EX-L with ReadyBrute tow bar/brake systemWiFiRanger Ambassador Follow our adventures on Facebook at Weiss Travels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted May 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 At 2k I going to have to get by until I go back to work. Been spending on truck. 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted May 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 Well that I understand but you didn't offer any help with settings if that what it is. This is possible. That little control panel is very basic. When I hold down settings I can up invert dc amps. Nothing in my book tells me what to set this on. It will only go to 100, I played with it. I was told to leave on <10 settings so I did. 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted May 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2016 What I just read on line this is only the idle setting. 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yarome Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 I've been wrong before, and don't own a Xantrex myself, but typical behavior on inverter in standby.. shore power off.. the transfer switch is closed and the unit is powered, constant load "on", 120v at minimal's and reacts immediately to load demands (which would include constant control board requirements on a residential). I'm not familiar with "strobe" type probing from an inverter. There may be some delay on a Xanny from shore power to inverter supply (could be 5 to 10 seconds delay), but that shouldn't be interfering with a current demand once the inverter is supplying an "active" current. Again though.. with modern day advances I guess it might be 'possible' that this behavior might have an effect on your inverters behavior.. but I have have no knowledge of that first hand or otherwise and can't relate to "how" that behavior might be of any advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted May 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 I don't have the equipment for that. Mine is analog 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale P Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Try a reset, remove both the AC (Circuit Breaker) for safety and disconnect the black lead to the unit. It is the 12Vdc that controls it. You can also disconnect the cable going to the panel from the Xantrex. Susan & Dale DaGirls Rv 2008 Alfa Gold SoLong ISL 425 Cummins 2015 Ford F-150 XLT Tow / Roadmaster Setup 1600W@45Vdc Magnum Inv/Chg&Solar880AmpHrDaGirlsRv Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale P Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Bill B, your link to PhotoBucket Pictures only takes me to a sign up page. Susan & Dale DaGirls Rv 2008 Alfa Gold SoLong ISL 425 Cummins 2015 Ford F-150 XLT Tow / Roadmaster Setup 1600W@45Vdc Magnum Inv/Chg&Solar880AmpHrDaGirlsRv Blog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted May 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 What is analog? The controller? Does it have a model number?p. I don't have a Link 1000. I have the standard Freedom Controler 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlennWest Posted May 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 Well I turned off breaker on pedestal at park. Removed wires. All lights out. Hooked all back up, reset controller and it hummed like it working but no 110 in camper. Beat on it with palm of hand. Never did get 110. Kitchen and entertainment on inverter. So just turned inverter off with remote. It charging fine. 2003 Teton Grand Freedom towed with 2006 Freightliner Century 120 across the beautiful USA welding pipe.https://photos.app.goo.gl/O32ZjgzSzgK7LAyt1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronmon Posted May 28, 2016 Report Share Posted May 28, 2016 The OP's control panel is the basic Xantrex panel, not the Link 1000, which is an upgrade. Ron Oops didnt read far enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray,IN Posted May 29, 2016 Report Share Posted May 29, 2016 Not considering the levels.. just the button led's.. you shouldn't be showing anything other than invert-blinking/solid green and charge-blinking/off. Everything else should be off as well and no red's at all.. It sounds like that is what you are saying.. so that would tend to make me think you might have a problem with the internal transfer switch (not closing when AC current is no longer applied). You could shut down the inverter and rapidly apply and then cut 120v to your rig (all loads should be off) a couple of times and see if it will work the circuit loose so that it will close properly when 120v is off. Easiest to do by just throwing the main bus breakers on and off. Alternately.. If you feel comfortable identifying the insides you could remove the inverter casing and give the transfer switch a good rap (like with the handle of a screwdriver) to see if it will close. (No.. I'm not kidding. When they begin to fail sometimes a good rap will help the internal mechanism to return to it's unpowered state [closed]) Sounds right to me! My transfer switch stuck once, did the same thing. I rapped the cover with my fist and it engaged properly. Never has stuck since. I was told what causes this is switching under load burns the contacts. 2000 Winnebago Ultimate Freedom USQ40JD, ISC 8.3 Cummins 350, Spartan MM Chassis. USA IN 1SG retired;Good Sam Life member,FMCA ." And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you--ask what you can do for your country. John F. Kennedy 20 Jan 1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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