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Forty two, The 7" are limited but for the money very good for kids as they are very resistant to breaking. Here are the current models: https://smile.amazon.com/All-New-Amazon-Fire-7-Tablet/dp/B01GEW27DA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1509256505&sr=8-2&keywords=Fire+tablets Yes, for $149.99 the 10" is pretty capable and can hold its own with iPads and Samsung Android tablet for much less. It has its own app store, no Google play store as the Fire tablets use Amazon's own Android variant.

The circuit breakers are being removed at a pace never before seen. An example is the "Bail-In" legislation so our assets in any bank can be seized as their own. Another sobering metric is that the FDIC insurance, in a bank failure like 2008, would not be able to save our deposits because of "Bail-In." The FDIC cannot cope with a massive amount of failures like 2008/9 without going to the federal government. The next one will be a learning experience for us all.

Is yours 4th generation like mine? That is the last one and the only 8.9" HDX still supported with updates, it even has Alexa but only by pressing and holding the home "O" touch button. The last generation Fire HD 8" I bought in January also has Alexa but I have to press and hold the Home button. It is now the old 6th generation here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018SZT3BK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Now there is a new 7th generation 8"HD here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J94SWWU/ref=fs_ods_tab_ds The only differences between my 2016 6th Gen HD8 and the newest 2017 7th Gen HD8 is a slightly bigger battery, and the newest one is $10 less starting price. Both have Alexa by pressing and holding the "Home" button. However, my all new 10" Fire HD actually has 1900X1200 full HD and it wakes when I say Alexa so I don't have to open it or hold down the home button. So it works just like our Echo Dots. We have two Bose Soundlink minis dedicated to our personal two Echo Dots and phones. My third office Dot is so close to my computer I don't pair it up with anything, they have great speakers and really don't need external speakers. I'm really selling it all but still trying to decide which two Fire Tablets to keep. The Windows Surface Pro 4 is staying and the 10" Fire HD. The toss up is between the 8.9" HDX and the 8"2016HD. The HDX = better picture, the HD 8" is a great but not full HD resolution but it has the micro SD card port where the HDX is limited to its own internal 32GB storage only.

Chirakawa, Yep their HDX tablets were overbuilt and terrific resolution. However I believe you have a Fire HD 10 which is 720p not 1080p as the newest Fire HD 10 is. The HDX systems were 1200p - 1920 × 1200 (323 ppi) for the 7", and 2560X1600 (1600p) for the 8.9" Fire HDX. They only made a 7" Fire HDX and an 8.9" Fire HDX. Here are all the HDX models now discontinued: https://www.bing.com/search?q=fire+hdx+discontinued&FORM=SBRS01 The Fourth gen Fire HDX 8.9" is still supported with updates, and even Alexa works but only with a press and hold of the "O" home button. The 7" HDX models are no longer supported with updates despite still working with Mayday live help and worth buying cheap as I did for $50 and $60. I had to give a lot more for the 4th Generation 1600p 8.9" HDX. The newest 10" Fire HD tablet is the first actual 1080p full HD 10" Fire tablet. It gets really confusing: https://www.cnet.com/products/amazon-kindle-fire-hd-2013/review/2/ And the 2016 model of the Fire HD8, that I bought one of in Apr 2017 is a 720p 8" is here: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018SZT3BK/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 For $69.99 on clearance I just wanted to play with it. It is fast, and the lightest tablet of its size yet has Alexa. The 10" full HD 10" we just received is this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01J6RPGKG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Unless one has true unlimited Internet on the road Alexa is not a make or break feature because she must be online all the time. We always pay cash and have built up to the point where we only owe under $300 a month for utilities and Internet and the rest of our retirement after food and gas is discretionary and our investments have done well, so we each indulge our hobbies. Computers and lately tablets since 4 years ago when the first Windows tablets came out in October of 2012 available widely in 2013. If you can only afford one tablet for just email, Browsing, and games you would love the Fire tablets. Like the Kindle readers you either love them or not. Fortunately the price of admission is what a good meal for us and a friend couple would cost, under or over $100. If anyone is passing by Shreveport in the next six months we should be here and selling all our excess toys down to one or two each. Free unlimited photo storage and all the benefits tied in with Prime etc. make them almost free from a savings perspective for us.

Mark, I got mine and it is awesome for a non windows tablet and reader in bed where I don't want a heavy big tablet. Even in sleep mode it comes awake when I say Alexa! For the money it beats all but my windows tablets. I will go back to a Windows phone in a heartbeat if they come out with a new one, or a Fire phone again by Amazon because I really don't like the Google terms of Service letting them use all my info and data for advertising. I also don't use any Google programs any more. Not Earth or Picasso etc. Amazon I trust to try to sell me what I want so they are not interested in passing along my data for a third party seller and Amazon already has all my infor and CC numbers.

I'm in the South and found the previous owner did not winterize properly despite a bypass and easy pump powered siphon hose. The Toilet valve cracked and leaked. A well the plastic mixer pipe inside the two handle sink in the vanity area was cracked. I made sure after replacing them that I flushed the toilet until pink as well as the water valve and tubing for the toilet is a PITA to R&R. I just sold my fiver and am getting a deluxe Scamp fiver for minimal weight and the Scamp for our rare weekends camping is all that we need. So going even simpler.

Jim, I've borrowed sniffers but man! few RVrs, are running around with a sniffer. I'm jealous now. <wink>

There is a check valve on all systems that when a line is broken reduces the gas flow significantly. From high flow to low flow. If any of you run into problems this Tech article I wrote will give you a good understanding of how the check valves and thermal cut offs work in your RVs. http://home.earthlink.net/~derekgore/rvroadiervfulltimingwhatisitreallylike/id44.html I'd recommend you do the following leak test both before and after any additional propane lines are installed. http://home.earthlink.net/~derekgore/rvroadiervfulltimingwhatisitreallylike/id46.html If the loss increased significantly between timed tests, you better check your connections again. I preferred to carry a 20 pound cylinder in a milk crate in my pickup bed since I towed a fiver. One of these: http://www.grillparts.com/charbroil/allparts.asp?src=base&product_id=4187314&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=PLA(BSC)&utm_term=1100101188191&utm_content=Ad group %231 I kept it connected to the cylinder in the milk crate then just set it on the ground and connected to the grill. THey come in varieties for rgulated and unregulated lines. Safe Travels

I think we'll like them. No one offers faster and better customer service, or freebies. Their tablets, although more like an iPad in that they don't run Windows, are superior to Android only tablets because they link directly into Alexa and for Prime member which I've been since 2004, the free online Picture storage, and limited video and doc storage, are second to none. Let's follow up after we get them. Safe travels and computing.

Jack, No, but I have HDMI output and a separate HDMI input on my All In One 2720. Do you know of one? You know that isn't a bad idea.

Thanks Dutch. My wife got her Ancestry DNA report last week and I called today and mine is taking longer but in process. Guess I need to be patient with physical and financial DNA. I'll be patient.

Reviews/news The short Version: The new Amazon Fire 10.1" tablet for $149 is the best value I have seen coming down the pike. It has the best of all the previous Fire Tablets and none of the drawbacks. Tablets and computers are my hobby. And I spend less on it than my friends do with Hunting and fishing, and doing cruises and ski vacations. We can do them too, just wasn't our thing. My hobby has been my tablets and computers and other electronics. So for folks looking for their first tablet and are not wanting to spend from $599.00-$1500.00 for one, The New Fire 10.1 Full HD ( 1920 x 1200 ) has it all. Here is the ZDNET review with specs and comments: http://www.zdnet.com/article/amazon-revamps-fire-hd-10-tablet-improves-specs-adds-alexa-powered-hands-free-mode-starting-at-149/?loc=newsletter_small_thumb&ftag=TREc64629f&bhid=19724681974700635514865380622813 Featuring a brilliant 10.1” 1080p Full HD display with over 2 million pixels, stereo speakers with Dolby Audio, and 32GB of internal storage with support for up to 256GB more via microSD—the all-new Fire HD 10 is designed from the ground up for entertainment Now 30% faster with 2x the RAM and an ultra-fast quad-core processor, plus up to 10 hours of battery life so you can enjoy all your favorite movies, TV shows, books, games, songs, and more Introducing Alexa hands-free for the first time on a Fire tablet—simply ask Alexa to play or pause a video, set a timer, play a song, dim the lights, open your calendar, or show your smart home security camera—using just your voice http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=176060&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=2301534 It has a max 256GB micro SD Card slot for the music and movies I like to have for offline entertainment. It has a camera but not much of one. In all my gadgets and tablets I have rarely used a tablet for photos. My Moto Z Play Phone has a camera that runs circles around my tablets with good tablet cameras. And for dedicated shoots I use an Olympus with a 24x Optical stabilized zoom, and 14 Mega Pixels. My phone is always with me and it has a 16 mega pixel camera in back and a 5 Mega pixel selfie camera. So the camera specs on a tablet are only for a comparison for me, not to actually take pics with. That's the only thing that can be perceived as a weak spot for it. THe rest? For $149.00 I predict they will sell a ton of them. And yes they can be jail-broken to use the Android Play store for compatible apps but I am not a big app person, and again have a great spec Moto Z Play for apps too. I also don't want to brick it or make it hard to sell later. I really like the Amazon ecosphere for reading and Amazon Prime and Alexa now. See we have three Alexa Echodots. End of short version. Long version: Comparing the Windows 10 and Amazon Fire tablets we've had My first tablet was a kindle reader with buttons. We still have one Kindle PaperWhite reader left if we we ever need to read outdoors. We took a sidetrack when all we had were a Kindle each, and then got a Windows Tablet for her, and two Tablets usually for me (testing the new before I sell the old.) I much prefer the 12" Surface Pro screens for ease of use and with the type cover they are, for me, much better than any laptop I have owned. We sold our last laptop last year. I have a lot of experience with tablets having bought the Android Samsung Tab 10" and the Tab 7" in 2011. A year or so later we bought our first Windows Tablet, the first Surface RT in Jan 2013. It at the time could not do IMAP email so I sold it and got the HP x2 hybrid in that the screen detached from the keyboard. It was an 11.6" screen which has since become my standard. I do like our Venue 11 Pro 10.8" screen as well. My wife wanted one so I got her a Lenovo Lynx 11.6." Those early Windows tablets all used the Atom Z2700 series of chipsets that were dual core and just not fast enough after six months. The first ones also had only 1200X800 or thereabouts resolution 720 p. I bought a Dell Venue 11 Pro, a 10.8" full HD screen that had all my requirements then. It had 2GB of RAM and the new Z3770 Chipset that was, and still is fast "enough" for browsing, typing with our BT keyboards, using all our Microsoft Office programs etc., and a full size USB3 port. I then got a deal on an ASUS T-200 that had it all except for full HD. it was an 11.6" hybrid with detachable screen. My wife inherited her Venue 11 Pro from me and that was fine for about six months. I got a deal on a brand new Surface Pro 3 in 2015 with i5/4GB/128GB for $359.99 off. I found the Surface 4 type cover for half off open box at Best buy and it came with the stylus. I've used it daily and used my HDX for reading at night in bed and in the throne room. I found some interesting Fire tablets used for $40 and the other $50. They were the 7" Fire HDX tablets, 16 GB of storage on one, and 64GB internal storage on the other. Like Apple Amazon made them higher than HD resolution but did not give them a Micro SD card slot, like the iPad. They do have instant customer service called "MayDay" with a rep in a box video in the corner of my screen within 15 seconds, but they can only hear, not see, me. I ask how to do or fix something and they can draw arrows and operate my screen remotely so I can see hos they got there. OMG! Awesome. Then I found a deal on the 8.9" version of the Fire HDX with an Otter Box which just made it too bulky and heavy. I found the Amazon Origami $40 cover for it at Best Buy for $9.99 since that model was discontinued but is still supported with OS updates like Alexa with a button press. It sold for between $389 and $469.99 depending on storage, mine is 32GB. They were too expensive for most, and for those who are Amazon Prime members they gave us unlimited could storage for pictures, and do have them, we download movies free, and can watch them offline later like in the doc's office or other waiting situations like vehicle repairs etc. https://geekchicdaily.com/kindle-fire-hdx-8-9-review-2014-king-tablets/ http://www.gsmarena.com/amazon_fire_hdx_8_9_(2014)-6690.php Helluva Kindle! LOL. I did manage to download some of my movies to the 8.9" HDX via the Micro USB cable but it was only easy once I figured it out. I used the 7" for my Kindle for a year but these guys are heavy after a few minutes of reading. In April 2017 I broke down and got the 2016 8" Fire HD (720p) which is very, very, very, light and acceptable for reading and watching movies etc. It was $69.99 with 16GB of storage, AND has a micro SD card slot for up to 200GB SD Cards! Love it! So today they announced the all new 10" Fire tablet with full HD etc and Alexa voice activated - no button presses for $149.99. OK, I pre-ordered one and will get it when it is first available on October 11th. Here are the specs: http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=176060&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=2301534 Yesterday my wife told me to sell her Venue 11 Pro and it is still like new and is the only tablet with a user changeable battery! Well, since I will now have a full HD 10 inch light weight Fire, the time has come. I am finally doing the local Craigslist ads to sell the excess: 1ea. 7" Fire HDX 7" tablet with 16GB storage, hard - Specs: https://www.phonearena.com/phones/Amazon-Kindle-Fire-HDX-7_id8158 1ea. 7" Fire HDX 7" tablet with 64GB storage, Origami cover and folio leather - Specs: https://www.phonearena.com/phones/Amazon-Kindle-Fire-HDX-7_id8158 1 ea. Fire 8.9" 4th Gen HDX tablet with 32GB of storage Origami cover and Otterbox: https://geekchicdaily.com/kindle-fire-hdx-8-9-review-2014-king-tablets/ I ea. Surface Pro 3 i5/4GB/128GB with neoprene sleeve, stylus: https://www.cnet.com/products/microsoft-surface-pro-3-12-core-i5-4300u-4-gb-ram-128-gb-ssd-qf200001/specs/ My points above were not to show what I have but that I sure have the experience to know when to get excited about a new version of an old friend. Amazon has a real winner here.

Still no emails here for either of us as of now.

News today is that Equifax had another major breach in March that they never disclosed. Among other embarrassments. they have yet to email is back the activation email promised. it has been several days.

Here is a good FTC web page about this breach. I never realized that our habit of doing our taxes as soon as the earnings statements were in was a security step. We have always filed in January, a few times early February because a government or civilian employer was late. Blues, Are you saying my supplying the first news link was misleading? If not who are you saying is misleading? Giving the link allowed the others here to follow the story i8mmediately, AND as it evolved from the source. It is not misleading to provide the source link. It gives the right link to follow it. If one chooses not to follow the story that is their prerogative. Yep Rynosback, It will continue to change as well. That's why instead of quoting second hand sources like a news outlet, Faux or otherwise, I always use primary sources. I checked it today and the folks and it looks like the folks who sold shares are both retiring but no mention of charges for insider trading. I IS an evolving story and in the meantime, since it is free here for us as Louisiana law makes credit freezes/unfreezings free for victims of ID Theft, or anyone over 62 years young. Since I'm 65 and my Significant Harassment is 63, we are just going to freeze our credit reporting from all three main agencies. We don't foresee any loans made by us, just deposits, and USAA doesn't need those with us. We also signed up for free added security to have texts sent to us as part of logging in, everywhere we could. With the breach of one of the major password programs I am still a bit leery of LastPass and the like. So I will stick with my methods until I find one that has enough value added. Freezing seems best to me as that tells anyone trying to use our ID that they aren't us. I have changed my main passwords for online biz and banking, as well as adding text verification for all that can do it. Here's another great webpage for security after the breach: From US news and World Report: https://money.usnews.com/money/personal-finance/banking-and-credit/articles/2017-09-15/how-to-protect-your-credit-in-the-wake-of-the-equifax-breach

Duplicate, now in Veteran's forum here.

Thanks Pat, I hadn't seen that new info. It seems my guesses were in line with the reality. I would like to see the insider traders, the three I think it was top level folks who sold shares three days after the breach was discovered and now claim they did not know of the breach at that time.

A possible cause is coming out. It seems their IT pros are not patching their software despite known vulnerabilities becoming public back in March on some of their main main software systems. If indeed that was the fault of the IT department, that bodes ill of how the security of the rest of the software hardware is maintained company wide: Excerpt: "Equifax confirms Apache Struts security flaw it failed to patch is to blame for hack The company said the March vulnerability was exploited by hackers. Equifax has confirmed that a web server vulnerability in Apache Struts that it failed to patch months ago was to blame for the data breach that affected 143 million consumers. In a brief statement, the credit rating giant said: "Equifax has been intensely investigating the scope of the intrusion with the assistance of a leading, independent cybersecurity firm to determine what information was accessed and who has been impacted." "We know that criminals exploited a U.S. website application vulnerability," the statement added. "The vulnerability was Apache Struts CVE-2017-5638. We continue to work with law enforcement as part of our criminal investigation, and have shared indicators of compromise with law enforcement." For its part, Equifax still has not provided any evidence to support the claim. The cited Apache Struts flaw dates back to March, according to a public vulnerability disclosure. Patches were released for the vulnerability, suggesting that Equifax did not install the security updates." The full article is here: http://www.zdnet.com/article/equifax-confirms-apache-struts-flaw-it-failed-to-patch-was-to-blame-for-data-breach/?loc=newsletter_large_thumb_related&ftag=TREc64629f&bhid=19724681974700635514865380622813 Since the vulnerability to software they depend on was fixed and a patch made available last March, their not having patched their systems to date, if true, means that level of IT department laziness and sloppiness pervades all of their website, server, and data repositories. I'd fire and prosecute the IT department if indeed it were true, as well as the CEO, and the department head. I did enroll in Equifax's ID protection a few minutes ago and giggled while thinking of the almost an oxymoron of getting the company that caused the breach of my info to protect my info as second. That was funny Dennis. Dennis I agree about password managers. Why? Well all the criminal element needs is my master password, that is a different animal from hacking all of them offline on a USB flash drive, which I do. Has it happened? Excerpts: "June 2017: OneLogin Password Manager Hacked; Users’ Data Can be Decrypted Do you use OneLogin password manager? If yes, then immediately change all your account passwords right now. OneLogin, the cloud-based password management and identity management software company, has admitted that the company has suffered a data breach. The company announced on Thursday that it had "detected unauthorised access" in its United States data region. Although the company did not provide many details about the nature of the cyber attack, the statement released by the firm suggest that the data breach is extensive. What Happened? OneLogin, which aims at offering a service that "secures connections across all users, all devices, and every application," has not yet revealed potential weaknesses in its service that may have exposed its users’ data in the first place. "Today We detected unauthorised access to OneLogin data in our US data region," OneLogin chief information security officer Alvaro Hoyos said in a brief blog post-Wednesday night. What type of Information? Although it is not clear exactly what data has been stolen in the hack, a detailed post on a support page that is accessible to customers only, apparently says that all customers served by the company's US data centre are affected, whose data has been compromised. The stolen data also includes "the ability to decrypt encrypted data." Source: The Hacker news June 2017: http://thehackernews.com/2017/06/onelogin-password-manager.html Here's another from 2015: "Password manager LastPass said Monday that email addresses and encrypted master passwords were compromised in a breach. LastPass CEO Joe Siegrist wrote in a blog post that the company does not believe user accounts were accessed in the attack, but the company recommended that users change the master password they use to access their account." Source Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/katevinton/2015/06/15/password-manager-lastpass-hacked-exposing-encrypted-master-passwords/#12d4e9e7728f How can they do that? Here's how - This next article shows you what tools to download, and how to use them with videos, so you can hack passwords too. the software to hack passwords. Excerpt: "Step 1 Cracking MD5 on Windows On Windows, we're going to need to download and install Cain & Abel. Cain is part of the software suite, and is a AIO (All-In-One) Windows hacking tool. We will be using its bruteforce function to crack MD5 hashes. Hash a Word Let's hash the word "cowsay" using Miracle Salad's MD5 hash generator. We get the following as a result: 0f606505ce5a8e34d306f707067786ef Bruteforce with Cain I'm going to show you in a vTutorial how to crack the hash of the word "cowsay". Follow closely! Step 2 Cracking MD5 on Linux On Linux, cracking hashes is a bit different. We will be using JTR (John the Ripper). Linux is a bit faster at cracking hashes, as you will see in the video a bit later. Installation First, download JTR from here. Extract with tar zxvf john-1.7.8.tar.gz Navigate to the john directory Install with ./configure && make && sudo make install Bruteforce with John I'm going to crack the hash of the word "cowsay" again, but this time with JTR. Commands will be listed below, if you miss any. Watch the video. Step 3 Protect Yourself from Password Cracking" In step 3 there is a link to his article on being as strong with your password protection. That article is here: https://null-byte.wonderhowto.com/how-to/hackers-take-your-encrypted-passwords-crack-them-0130638/

I hear ya Dennis.

Newt, LOL! I see it too, almost an oxymoron.

Amen Dennis.

Rich it's like that member here that was always telling how the bubble will burst and get into cash. It was imminent from 2008 on because he had 2008 PTSD. Then I hear folks talk trash about how they are getting back to cash. Now if they kept it in a safe deposit box or a giant safe at home maybe. But legislation has been passed to allow bank bail ins instead of bail outs where they take all our deposits and CDs as their own assets first, before selling off any other assets toxic or otherwise. https://www.bing.com/search?q=bail+in+and+the+fdic&form=EDGTCT&qs=PF&cvid=04ce005b8e864ffaa1cc83be62034ec7&cc=US&setlang=en-US So cash in a bank as a deposit as a refuge against a recession depression is exactly the wrong move these days. I decided to keep one year's living expenses in cash, no more. Now it is research for what is more secure without the banks stealing it and the FDIC unable to cover all its bets. Tesla is as good a place as any with the world all suddenly doing more than talking. Tesla is still in the lead in every area that involves current sales and tech not vaporware.

Amen Linda!

Trailertraveler, I posted in the three forums so our members got the news and links to the source information soonest. The Source links were in each one. I've only done that once before several years ago. The source links are there in case I poorly word something. Please always read the source links in case I miss something. If one is involved the credit protection is free.

No problem Ray, you're welcome. Remember tomorrow is Windows update day.