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If you like it then go to this link: https://nordvpn.com/coupon/ But you have to pay for the full term up front to get the price either way. 3 years $99 up front and $99 every three years.

VT Chris, YW! Sorry been offline fixing a dead diesel and getting a new tiny Scamp set up for a city search for where we want to move to (Stix n Brix.) VPNs are good for privacy for sure, but regardless of paid for or free they have a performance hit because of adding the extra jumps and routing. But I am looking into VPNs too now because of the recent repeal of Net neutrality. Our Internet providers nopw have legal permission to look at all our traffic and sell any they want to third parties without even asking permission. They need regulation as we will soon see. The regulation will not come until the Internet providers start blackmailing some big politicians with their own emails they sold to a political party. VPNs have become a necessity. I was reading this earlier in the year: https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0%2C2817%2C2403388%2C00.asp?path=zpc-15478-mpc-100a1a&creative=78065390289150&device=c&dps=1&keyword=78065489991047&source=s http://top5-vpn.com/?utm_source=B I am at a loss. https://vpn-services.bestreviews.net/advantages-and-disadvantages-of-openvpn/ I would like the privacy of an open VPN, but I do not want a performance hit from it. And they all have some slowdown even if it is claimed imperceptible. On some of those sites above after a few seconds I was offered two year deals on OVPN of $2.75 a month so if one is sure and has tried a particular vendor's VPN, and think it's the best then look for one of the deals at review websites. I do appreciate the lead on it.

So how are all my fellow investors doing today? my Tesla stock is being volatile as always and I'm still long. If anyone was looking for a good buy price you may gave missed it. I has been swinging from >$360 down to $290, back to $360, and now down to $310 and on the way back up. The shorts are due a massive short squeeze soon. Lots to be made either way. It is all about timing, and I prefer just staying long than rolling the dice trying to time the market. Long always wins except in very rare circumstances. Whether bear or bull, I wish all my fellow investors "still in" the best of luck.

You can't uninstall Windows Defender, only disable it when you install another real time scanner. Defender is there. Just uninstall Mcafee and it will take over. Then get Malwarebytes premium instead of paying for Mcafee. Together they are as good as security gets. You'll do fine, it becomes clearer when you do it.

Are you asking for the removal tool for Bitdefender? Ratings and reviews? Google is your friend: https://www.antivirusbest10.com/best-anti-malware-software

Rod, For Windows 10 here is the current best protection for 2018. Remember that this not only my opinion and that of others, but what I use. Number one rule!! Never run any A/V program with another with one exception. Do not install any new A/V until you use uninstall any A/V installed using that company's own uninstaller as A/V programs have hooks deep in the system that allow them to work before/after Windows boots. The Windows uninstall does not remove them and the leftovers can aid malware because of conflicts with calls for files at boot that are no longer on your machine. There are lots of fake uninstaller websites out there so if you can't tell which one is the right one just post here and I'll give the link to the genuine and safe uninstaller. Run Windows Defender and allow it to update whenever it is opened or asks. Buy Malwarebytes Premium and run it alongside Defender. That is the only exception. Never try to run any other two. That includes Windows Defender and any other. Malwarebytes premium has saved me several times recently from the latest scourge, cryptojacking, the bot nets that jump on your computer and use your electricity and CPU/Ram running your system to 100% for bitcoin mining. Malwarebytes jumps in and says it did not allow that website because it is malicious. You could override that but to be blunt, that is just plain stupid. Even an old dependable website may have been taken over to drop malware as a driveby. I have Malwarebytes premium for that reason, the premium version active scans all the time. The free version is great after you are infected in detecting and cleaning most of the time. I say most because the malware today will turn off your A/V programs but make them appear to be running. I bought lifetime Premium licenses for five machines years ago when XP was the then current Windows version. Now they sell annual licenses and no longer any lifetime licenses. They have upgraded it free numerous times and daily updates makes it the cleanest. fastest, and lightest on resource use. Scans don't even slow my systems down I just work while they run. There some folks here that took my advice and bought their lifetime licenses. Even better, when I get a new computer I just remove Premium from the computer I am going to replace and then add the license info to the new one after I install the current free version with the premium trial. It will not run on another before removing from the current. MY license codes and ID numbers are on the CDs I bought and saved to a master file on all computers and one USB Flash/thumb drive kept in the car. Do not run Malwarebytes free or premium with any A/V except Defender. I do use several tools from other vendors that are free like Norton eraser. So even if you never used it on a new computer, get the uninstaller from that vendor and remove it before you install Malwarebytes. Here are the uninstaller links for the major vendors: Norton: https://support.norton.com/sp/en/us/home/current/solutions/v60392881_EndUserProfile_en_us AVG: Follow the instructions in this article http://support.avg.com/SupportArticleView?urlname=How-to-uninstall-AVG to run the AVG remover tool and download this https://share.avg.com/steam/PSP/AVG2017/AVG_Clear.exe to run AVG Clear too. This tool will help with removing antivirus component of AVG 2017 and its traces. Open tool User Account control - click "Yes" Windows safe mode - click "No" (we cannot recommend use the tool in safe mode, because there is a problem with compability) Choose installed version (AVG Free, AVG Internet Security) Click "Uninstall" Click "Restart computer". Kaspersky removal tool: http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/kaspersky_products_remover.html Major Geeks is a completely trustworthy download site that does not add Possibley Unwanted Programs or spyware like other ones do. Here are all the uninstallers for A/V and others, look yours up al[alphabetically here: http://www.majorgeeks.com/mg/sortname/uninstallers.html If at any time you have just used the Windows uninstaller to remove any A/V get the tool and run it again for any A/V you uninstalled without their removal tool. Questions?

Jim, I've seen them coming in for a landing over on Kelly AFB when I was on my last year before retirement tour at Lackland AFB in San Antonio. They do look like they are stopped and about to fall out of the sky.

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Excerpt: "A recent ruling by the U.S. Court of Appeals for Veterans Claims may have a major effect on the outcome of many veteran's disability claims. On April 3, the court ruled that pain, without any underlying disability, may be a valid reason for awarding VA compensation benefits. Injury Occurred While On Active Duty The ruling is a result of Gulf war veteran Melba Saunders, who served in the Army from Nov. 1987 until Oct. 1994. Saunders suffered a knee injury while in service and was treated by military doctors and diagnosed with "patellofemoral pain syndrome, " according to Web-MD that is also known as "knee-pain." She filed a disability claim after leaving the military and was denied, the story is long, but the VA eventually denied her claim, saying "patellofemoral pain syndrome...is productive of no ascertainable impairment." In English that means that her injury, while it was painful, was not an impairment, and therefore not a disability. All this means is that the VA said she had no real disability, there was no injury that qualified her for compensation. To the VA pain, in and of itself, was not a disability. Court Says A Disability Doesn't Necessarily Have To Be A Diagnosed Injury The law (38 U.S.C. § 1110) says that VA shall award compensation benefits "for disability resulting from personal injury suffered...in line of duty." The law doesn't tell the VA to award compensation for an injury, but for the disability caused by the injury. That is why if you have a greater disability, you normally have a lesser potential earning ability, or lesser enjoyment of life than someone with a lesser disability; therefore you are awarded a greater compensation for that disability, to make up for your reduced earning ability, etc." Much more here with related hot links: https://www.military.com/militaryadvantage/2018/04/06/court-rules-chronic-pain-va-disability.html Safe travels!

I've used his Ultimate hitch and they are great. However, after this I believe I will stick with the Scamp type by Reese, like I have now with my Scamp 19' fiver I am about to sell before moving to Colorado. It fits on the Reese rails I have for my regular Reese 5th wheel hitch. Scamp and/or Reese can compete with their existing products. I was surprised not to see these advertised on the Reese website. Here is the Scamp fiver part of the hitch system: I'll be looking for the outcome too.

Interesting note. That video of the model 3 race above was altered. Originally it showed the loser after the first race talking trash and making whiny excuses about being cheated by giving the Tesla a better lane to run in. The Tesla driver tries to walk off but the loser insisted and bet another $600 and got shut down. Bear in mind he was racing a stock Model 3 as delivered. The Model S and 3 with Ludicrous mode equipment can cut those times in half. The real apples to apples race would be any modified for speed Internal combustion engine muscle car against a factory race/performance equipped Tesla with full Ludicrous Mode systems.

We have bought two 10" Queen size and one 12" King size gel/memory foam mattresses from Amazon and been thrilled with all of them. We have bought a new 8" Queen short gel/memory foam for our last RV and it was great, despite being only eight inches thick. We have found that toppers sleep too hot unless they are gel foam. Here is one like the one we bought: https://www.amazon.com/LUCID-Inch-Memory-Foam-Mattress/dp/B0088YUYF6/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1520979744&sr=8-3&keywords=gel+foam+RV+queen+short+mattress&dpID=515XGsr2wVL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch I have to tell you that the gel infused top layer makes a big difference. We have slept on Gel memory foam for ten years now and cannot go back to springs n things mattresses. I have lumbar and cervical back issues and before my surgeries in 2016, I got instant relief from the morning wake up lumbar ache when we switched to our first gel three layer memory foam mattress. Then I had surgery for both and still find my sleep undisturbed by the old pains from a mattress without gel foam construction. So far we have not worn one out. We sold one with a queen bed, to sell it to a friend, then got a new frame and mattress. Then we decided we wanted a king size. Also don't let price fool you. Paying more doesn't give better quality. I would not have a hybrid, air filled, or other "wonder Mattress!" as seen on TV. Just three layers of foam, a thick bottom support layer. the middle memory foam layer, and the top 2-4 inch blue Gel cooling foam layer. I doubt you'd have any issues with the one linked above. It has a four star average rating over 4,738 customer reviews We were shocked that the RV 8 inch thick three layer gel foam mattress in the RV was as comfortable as our ten and 12 inch thick Gel/memory/support three layer foam mattresses.

Joel, I had issues a few minutes ago with a Word file and just got it transferred over into a post here on this thread. Let me go see if it finally took! I thought Vizio was the cheap no good set but boy they changed my mind on Black Friday 2015. Once I had the hardware I had to get the right 2.1 cables and box.

Good answers from Joel. Y'all despite some wanting to do a smart TV it is usually not nearly as effective as any modern streaming device, my three second generation 4k Amazon fire full size, or a Roku can be replaced on the cheap out of warranty if they fail instead of the whole TV. Our TV has all kinds of streaming apps etc, but it is so slow I can't stand it.. The Fire TV model before the hanging one they sell now was considered by many the best for both WiFi connecting and 4k: https://www.engadget.com/2015/10/16/amazon-fire-tv-4k/

Biker, good response. You got me to thinking how fast are the production cars today. Some of the cars in the link below are not manufactured anymore, or were custom in all but the fact they were ordered retail. Classic Muscle car runs. First number is 0-60, second number is quarter mile time. 1969 Plymouth 'Cuda 440 5.6 14.0 1970 Plymouth AAR 'Cuda 5.8 14.3 1969 Plymouth GTX 440 5.8 13.7 1969 Plymouth Road Runner 426 Hemi 5.1 13.5 (C&D Jan '69) 1973 Pontiac Firebird 455ci 7.3 15.0 1974 Pontiac Firebird 400ci 10.4 17.1 1975 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 400 9.8 16.8 1975 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 455 7.8 16.1 1977 Pontiac Firebird Formula 12.0 17.9 1978 Pontiac Firebird Trans Am 6.5 15.3 2009 Pontiac G8 GXP 4.9 13.1 http://www.roadandtrack.com/tests/co...pontiac-g8-gxp 2008 Pontiac G8 GT 5.0 13.5 (R&T Online) 2009 Pontiac G8 GT 5.1 13.7 (MT, Jan 09) 2005 Pontiac GTO V8 w/6 Spd 4.8 13.3 (C&D Jan '05) This may be the fastest of the 'muscle car' era. 1970 Buick GS Stage I 455ci. 5.5 13.3 (MT Jan '70) 1972 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 7.5 15.5 1974 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 8.1 15.4 1975 Chevrolet Camaro 350 11.0 17.4 1975 Chevrolet Camaro RS 8.5 16.8 1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS 454 LS6 5.4 13.8 (C&D Feb '70) Only 2 Vettes were in the 13's. 1967 Chevrolet Corvette L71 5.6 13.8 1968 Chevrolet Corvette 327 7.7 15.6 1968 Chevrolet Corvette 427 6.3 14.1 1969 Chevrolet Corvette 427ci 435hp 5.3 13.8 (C&D Sep '69) 1970 Chevrolet Corvette 427 6.1 14.3 1973 Corvette 350ci L82 6.7 15.1 (C&D Dec '72) 1973 Corvette 454ci 6.4 14.6 (C&D Dec '72) 1975 Chevrolet Corvette 350 9.6 16.4 1976 Chevrolet Corvette 350 8.1 16.5 1977 Chevrolet Corvette 8.8 16.6 1979 Chevrolet Corvette L82 7.3 15.7 1980 Chevrolet Corvette L82 7.4 15.4 1968 Dodge Charger, Auto, 4.8, 13.5 (C&D Nov '67) 1967 Ford Mustang (390ci V8 w/4spd) 7.4 15.6 1971 Ford Mustang (351ci V8 w/4spd) 5.8 13.8 1973 Ford Mustang 351ci 8.9 16.3 1974 Ford Mustang II 4sp 14.2 18.8 1974 Ford Mustang II Auto 15.6 19.4 1975 Ford Mustang II (302ci V8 w/3spd) 9.6 17.5 1977 Ford Mustang II 302ci 11.3 17.7 1970 Ford Mustang Boss 302 6.5 14.9 (C&D Feb '70) 1971 Ford Mustang Boss 351 5.8 13.8 1969 Oldsmobile 4-4-2 HO 455ci 5.9 13.9 If you want to look up 0-60 and 1/4 mile times for all cars they are categorized nicely but not really up to date. They sound a bit like the EPA estimated mileage on new car stickers: true if you never stop, never accelerate and travel on level ground in a straight line under 30 mph with no A/C running.https://www.zeroto60times.com/ So the next time some old geezer my age talks sh*t about how fast the muscle car era cars were, just email him a link to this page.

Here's the first Tesla Model 3 Race video I have seen. Remember the Model 3 is the economy car of the Tesla line not the ludicrous mode monster racing beast the others can be. They are slowly dribbling out of the factory as Musk deals with the bottlenecks and ramps it up fast. So these street racers with hot performance muscle cars they had modified to the max, spending more than the price of the Model 3, thought they had a sucker since his Tesla was the economy "cheap" version. Watch the video: One guy was a rotten loser and insisted on betting another $600 claiming he was set up in a worse lane. The Model 3 owner didn't want to take any more of his money but there were enough witnesses so he raced him and swapped lanes, and smoked him again. He was not loud the second time.

Wow! Tesla outsells BMW, Audi and Mercedes' flagships in their home market There is bound to be a whole cadre of salty German executives after Tesla smokes them at their own game. https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/tesla-outsells-bmw-audi-mercedes-flagships/ And these pictures of a Model 3 after a 60 mph deceleration directly into a stopped vehicle are amazing, as are the comments in the article of the first responders who never saw anyone survive that severe a wreck: https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-3-crash-insight-60mph-collision/?t=1&cn=ZmxleGlibGVfcmVjc18y&refsrc=email&iid=c6e3a6c00bab4efe90be452ad1e679b1&fl=4&uid=948743011822964736&nid=244+276893704

Mac, If you are reading this thanks for everything and your time years ago when I started fulltiming. I still have your foam refillable in my workshop. I doubt anyone will take over since the demos are what gave him his illnesses. Mac saved a lot of lives I'm sure. I hope he can recover. Maybe Mac can direct a video and present it on YouTube for profit and to keep his expertise available.

Rich, I agree completely on making sure retirement is taken care of first. We do have a steady income aside from investments. That being our SS which (is better than I thought when I looked in 2010,) and our military retirement/medical, then we can talk about stocks and funds we hold. I would risk nothing I could not afford to lose either way. I agree Smitty, a diversity of opinion I learn from, more than others may be aware. Good to see you here again too.

We have the tech now to provide power and storage to any home in the event of a natural disaster like the hurricane and fire destruction we are seeing now. This assumes it is near enough to cause power and supply issues. Click here for the page on the Tesla PowerWall: https://www.tesla.com/powerwall?redirect=no&utm_medium=email&utm_source=communication&utm_campaign=NA-US-171218-December-Newsletter&utm_term=3&utm_content=L&mkt_id=2521&mkt_tok=eyJpIjoiWmpWbU1XSmpaRGxrWWpZMSIsInQiOiJcLzJYMElBa01mMGUwdlE5cWVcL0F6UndRTGU3Mm1TUzVCSUJXdUduWVFPZVZ1UEZvQ2U3TVwvSG1Nczk1ZW13azd3R3dQeEE4VWloV0ZJVHRtUGswTmFuY3h0OHRtdG5wQXk0ajlSZlpWY0dIVXo0c0gzQVdwS2haaE4zVDVxSzU5ZWkxXC9oM2sxQlhkejFFd0tYXC9cL1Vla2c9PSJ9 I keep hearing that folks won't see a return on investment on solar/BEV/battery investments, when that is not the concept at all. When you find yourself with no outside power or water or gasoline available for long periods of time, there investment ROI becomes priceless. I have the discretionary funds needed for our next home to be connected but only as a last resort. I would like to have fully independent power and storage via solar and passive systems. I am looking in Colorado for the next week to see what we can fins that is close enough to civilization to make shopping and social/cultural interactions easy. Yet be self sustaining with woods nearby or abutting it so that we could forage/hunt food as well as have a water supply. Let's remember that a self contained solar battery system can power a well pump, septic pump, as well as charge an all electric car. A garden, some pressure cooker and mason jars, a few deer and or other game, and a decent supply of .22 and 7mm magnum shells in addition to a few thousand rounds of .40 cal and 500 rounds of shotgun shells/slugs could put anyone completely independent of any need for outside food supplies, energy, or automobile fuel. We are almost at a point where we will have a lot more money than we will need for our remaining years. What better investment than never worrying about power, heat, cooling, fuels or food in a national crisis. Of course with an EMP attack we would be as bad off as the rest. No worse, just the same. I invest a large amount annually in food and clothing, as well as fuel and no ROI is considered. Going energy independent saves day to day money, assuming I pay cash for my dwelling and energy systems and car/s, as I always do, and continue with only Internet, utilities, gas, water, electric, and garbage monthly bills. With an energy independent system the ability to shut down outside connections, or survive long periods with no outside utilities or water become real. In that way I am more like a prepper, as I value energy and carbon fuel independence, in much the same way as they do their investment on defensive weapons and tight security. I do not need a mansion, nor a yacht or any boat, certainly no private aircraft, or any other thing the very rich value as conspicuous consumption. So my discretionary funds will provide that independence I really want. Then my investment is secure, and no cash to worry about or stock market crashes. Unlike the political narratives this website, Clean Technika, provides today's actual and factual state of renewables for both large scale and personal power and energy. If free energy after installation is just too left for some then please skip it. If you want to know what is going on in energy read it. https://cleantechnica.com/ Renewables are not only about clean environments, but also about making/saving money in emerging vertical markets. Read the renewables page there and find what has already been built and now under construction. I am a techie, politics, other than voting as my citizen duty, has no place in my daily life. I now have a very nice Scamp 2014 19' fifth wheel with the wood interior and bathroom, stove, microwave, septic and fresh water tanks, fantastic fan and A/C from Arizona which was used only three or four times. I have not decided if we are going to keep it yet. I foresee a lot of folks coming to some of the same conclusions. For us it is not either/or in having energy independence and having our retirement money coming in. So I do understand the folks that look at it as only a utility money saver. It is but for RVrs it may be easier to comprehend than others. Doing what I want to do, and where is the same thing as an RV boon-docking with solar and a generator. I want my home to have power when there are regional or local blackouts. With the right sized system I can supply all my BEV car electrical power as well as the house's septic, water, A/C, heat, cooking and lighting needs. I want my house to be even more self-contained than an RV which can't hold the Solar system or septic fields and well a house can. I just need a well and a wastewater treatment plant. The house we inherited and just sold had a 3kw older grid connected solar and we had to drill a new well and service the wastewater treatment plant so these things, like our wastewater holding tank and macerator pump to our odor free oxidation pond here, are very familiar and easy for us to do and maintain. I strongly urge investors read the above Clean tech regularly to keep up with maturing technologies and startups that can, like Tesla, make a lot of money for those seeking to diversify from only old fossil energy only portfolios.

Rich, Market timing is an elusive goal. Even with Tesla, which I have ridden for 7 years like bucking bronco, does not always go down enough, or back up fast enough for me to sell then buy back when it dips again. I can only recommend being very careful about banks and bail-ins. Check your bank's policies on hard times like 2008/9. The securities regulations that kept the market safe from the same speculation by large banks are being repealed now and it is just a matter of time. Since scientists worldwide agree on what needs to be done for climate, the rest of the world is doing it. London for example will ban all Internal combustion vehicles within 5 years and BEVs are fine there. India and China have already committed to 100% bans within 20-30 years. However it appears that rather than push them back or deny good science, and despite most Americans not understanding the change to any company that makes only ICE engines starting now, well they are going to really suffer. IMHO oil is a dead man walking, along with natural gas which also produces CO2 and CO as any carbon based fuel will do. There is no such thing as clean burning carbon fuels, only reduced compared to smoggier burning versions with visible smoke. Bearing that in mind, I just called USAA and he suggested that Cash, Money Market savings, and straight savings accounts are the only things that will preserve the capital unless the world gets nuked and EMP sends us back to the early 1800s. Read the book "One Second After" for a likely, but frightening story showing how that would actually happen. Scary. The folks who are preppers, and have a boogie bag with weapons and ammo and a fall back place in the boonies for if the proverbial excrement hits the rotating surfaces are welcome to that as a hobby. But the more I thought about hard currencies, the more I realized that once you spend a piece of gold/silver, everyone in your region will know you likely have more. Banks paying a half percent and up to .80 percent for safe harbor make it less attractive than just burying actual cash in the yard, or, like my Grandfather in Law did, fill up all the hollow core doors in the house with paper currency. Takes today's article from Seeking Alpha by a very astute contributor there: Summary Peabody Energy, key supporter of Trump administration, attempts to force coal use to continue. Huge changes towards digital flexible power delivery (no inflexible base load coal, nuclear): cheaper and in tune with digital transformation across all industries. Peabody continues to promote “clean” coal, with little evidence that it is clean or provides reliable and cheap power. Investors who have made money from investing in coal but don't follow closely the energy space might be interested in the recent steady share price increases for Peabody Energy (NYSE:BTU). There have been a number of positive articles in Seeking Alpha, and analyst coverage involves many buy recommendations for BTU. However, there are signs of trouble ahead, not the least from BHP (BHP), another huge mining company that sells a lot of coal. It plans to withdraw from the World Coal Association, and it is reviewing its membership of the Minerals Council of Australia and the US Chamber of Commerce over their stance toward climate change. This is a huge statement (see the detail) about the lobbying stance of these organisations and must impact Peabody Energy as the chief lobbying company. Here, I argue that all is not what it seems, and the positive reports about BTU are based on a rosy view that ignores hard reality for not only Peabody Energy but the whole coal industry. Briian65 recently commented on one of my earlier articles Fun And Games At Peabody Energy: What Is Stabilizing The Share Price? (June of this year) on Peabody Energy. He made the point that the BTU share price has risen from $23.50 in June to $36.40 today. I don't do day-trading (except for some fun with cryptocurrencies!), and Briian65 has a valid short-term perspective. However, I make the point that examination of Peabody Energy's performance since exit from bankruptcy is pretty much in line with the S&P 500 and VanEck Vectors Coal ETF (NYSEARCA:KOL). True, it is better than other coal companies Cloud Peak Energy (NYSE:CLD) and Westmoreland Resource Partners (WMLP), but the confronting thing for coal investors is a comparison with solar outperformer First Solar (FSLR) which has more than doubled since BTU emerged from bankruptcy, and even somewhat troubled SunPower (SPWR) is up more than 150%." The rest of the article is much more in depth with charts and more data to think about here: https://seekingalpha.com/article/4133038-peabody-energy-rising-coal-industry-decline-going?uprof=82&isDirectRoadblock=false There ain't no guarantees the old coot told me, ya just makes yer bet, and takes yer chances.

Having lights and saying they work because there are no rats or mice in your rig sounds like elephant repellent. A good ol boy know it all told me about the best investment he ever made, a bottle of elephant repellent. I told him there weren't any elephants in the US in the wild. He said that proved it worked! Rodents carry plague in the US, especially in the SW. THe infection is carried from one to another by fleas who have bitten an infected rodent. Fleas jump off a dead host pretty quick in search of a living replacement host. This is why we caution about handling pest rodents shot or run over. Thus I prefer not to use the old fashioned messy "snap traps." Once it kills one, any fleas will soon begin to abandon ship and search for another host. Not in my home!! I like the idea that the Zapper could kill them too. I don't care how many mice or rats go under or around my rig when full time. I only care about any that get in. The rat zapper is great in barns and Ag usage but in homes and RVs for me I want to Zap any that get in. Lots more things attract them than a Zapper with bait inside. Lights may or may not work, I doubt the efficacy of sonic repellent devices too. For prevention I got under the rig, and inside every cabinet and closet with pipe pass through openings, and sealed them each up. I stuffed steel wool down or up inside them tightly packed. I could have used some RockHard filler made up thin to go down between pipes. RockHard mixes like plaster but does indeed dry rock hard. The steel wool is a must. They won't chew it if they can't pull it out. A mouse/rat/hamster/gerbil can squeeze through amazingly small spaces. Here is an article with a video of a fat hamster trying to get under a crack that is obviously impossible for such a fat rodent to squeeze through, at least one would think. https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-a-mouse-can-fit-through-a-hole-the-size-of-a-ballpoint-pen All the repellents in the world won't take the place of sealing possible entry ways. Those loosely stapled plastic escutcheon rings on every rig I've had left more gap than any mouse would need. I didn't bother replacing the collars when the hole is under something so it could not be seen. (remember I do the collars after I seal the holes with steel wool and rockhard) The rest I installed loosely for looks only. Just remember that our RVs travel and vibrate down the road and a metal collar could rub a hole in our PEX plumbing pipes over time. We traveled with our dog and the dog food is likely the attractant so we keep it stored in a mouse-proof container. We also replaced our coiled inside power cable that was pulled out and had that flimsy plastic door a mouse could certainly get through. Ours was more like the 50 amp twist on system, and we carried a box in the pickup bed just for the cable. similar to these: http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/30-amp-non-metallic-inlet-with-white-cover-assembly/95377 or cheaper like this: https://www.etrailer.com/RV-Wiring/Epicord/277-000138.html There are lots of ways to defeat the little cusses. For outside I like the "walk the plank" using a 5 gallon Home Depot bucket filled third of the way with water under the rig: http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/142548829626 Some folks prefer a live trap but not me. I can empty the bucket into any dumpster, pouring the water out next to it on grass. I like them better than the conventional traps that force us to handle them. Seal it up with steel wool because they won't chew tightly packed steel wool done as I outlined above. Hope that helps.

I've got two words: Rat Zapper : https://www.bing.com/search?q=rat+zapper+amazon&pc=MOZI&form=MOZLBR Bait with peanut butter and oatmeal.

Duke, I caught the reference to the tulip bubble of 1637. The SEC stepped in today and stopped trading on one of the bitcoin like coin companies because it was rising out of control: https://www.bing.com/search?q=coin+trading+stoppe+by+SEC&pc=MOZI&form=MOZTSB ryno, Sorry, I had just finished reading a treatise answering a prediction of imminent bubble bursting and should have explained that. The author said that he doubted anything would turn before later in 2018. And now I can't find it again. We Tesla longs get a lot of razzing about Tulip Mania and very conceivable doom and gloom is thrown out with no real basis in anything except that a segment of the population despise the good fortune of others, and those others enjoying it. So folks try to rain on it. They're called limited resource thinkers, and they will never get out of their own way. I wrote about it and how it relates directly to the RV lifestyle here: http://home.earthlink.net/~derekgore/rvroadiervfulltimingwhatisitreallylike/id66.html So sorry I didn't validate that others are always dooming and glooming around anyone who did the work to follow a company closely for years so we are ready to buy when it IPOs. So read the piece on my website and don't take anything I say as advice. I do like discussin not cussin, and I learn. I'm not at risk because depite it being big money to some, it is still the $25-30 k I could afford to lose despite it being worth ten times that now. See, early on, when Tesla went over $100, and remember I bought on IPO at between $17 and $22.50. So I could sell 20% of my shares and take a 20% profit and still have most of my shares to ride and see what happens to it. So I've already made much better than a measly 6% on selling a piece, and took back my entire investment to boot. So lots of folks would be about this investment, like they erroneously reacted to selling my 911 Targa. I learned then, and never tried to live up to or down to the expectations of others. And the bullies who are arrogant and use insults on a grade school level are boring. Musk is boring too, but he is making money at it.