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We elected to visit the MT-SD-WY tri-point this week. About a mile from the marker the road became muddy and we opted to park and walk in from there.

Compared to the other 8 tri-points we've visited, this one is understated. No sign points the way or announces the monument. Because it was a gloomy low-cloud day, the landscape struggled to show off its contours. There is no visitor log book. Apparently there is a story, as the monument says the original surveyor, Rollin Reeves, was under heavy threat of Indian attack. And then there's this bit from the Highpointers Club web page regarding this tri-point: "Note that the NE corner of WY and the SE corner of MT do not coincide. The 27th meridian survey from the south brought the line up 23.3 seconds too far west. The survey south from the Canadian border brought the line 41.6 seconds too far east at the same latitude. The combined error is 70.68 chains or about 0.88 mile. The original 1877 marker was replaced in 1904 by a stone post."

We did note the three states also placed separate markers in the field on their respective side of the tri-point monument. One was illegible, but the other two sought to clarify the boundary. 

https://highpointers.org/us-tripoint-guide/

This tri-point is on public land.

We were able to visit another tri-point monument the other day. This one marks the convergence of the South Dakota, Wyoming and Nebraska state lines. We walked 2.5 miles round trip to visit this site, and were treated to a sighting of red-headed woodpeckers and grouse, not to mention the gorgeous view.

There are 39 US tri-point markers accessible by land.

We find it interesting to learn the history of these markers and monuments. Also we get to see gorgeous territory along the way. Some, like this one, require crossing private land, and arrangements must be made in advance.

11 hours ago, Dutch_12078 said:

We still lived on our mountain in 1992 when a possible mass burial site of indeterminate age and stone foundations were discovered in the state forest by a hunter a few miles away from us. He went to the media with the story and photos, causing a lot of supposition and conspiracy theories about "Indian massacres" and such. For awhile, there were many people over running the area trying to find the location. When local law enforcement got involved, they brought in a forensic examiner that quickly determined the large number of bones found were mostly cow with the rest a mixture of pig, horse, and some deer. When the town historian determined the location was the site of an early 1900's slaughter house/rendering plant, the excitement quickly died down for some reason...   

LOL. Great story!

Yeah, this pandemonium is what I would expect and why my first inclination would be to protect the property via ownership.

Just a guess from that photo: the soil might have been too hot, meaning it was too rich for the seedlings. Looks like you got a good germination rate. Good work! Also appears the sprouts may have received too much (or too strong of) sun. Bet those stems are peppery, though! I'd toss those babies into a stir fry.

We're going to be making our way to our new home state of South Dakota, beginning tomorrow. )))waves(((  Best wishes on this project.👍

On 5/19/2021 at 1:17 AM, MDJordan said:

New posts today.  It's refreshing and I thank you.

If you wish, please speak to these:

What does a child do after a lifetime of caring in this matter and it remain untouched?  OK out of the box?

What about going to a news service, first?  Wouldn't that keep all subject authorities honest or ethically more viable?

There's nothing (more than this)

mdj

A former news reporter here who is deeply grieved by the state of the industry. No, do not contact the news first.

If you are needing to see the site preserved, buy it. Fence it. Secure it. All this before talking to anyone with specifics. That's the only way you'll manage even a modicum of control over it.  My 2 cents.

On 5/18/2021 at 8:57 PM, Jinx & Wayne said:

I worked on an archeological dig while in college.  It was an eye opening experience.  Site investigation is a complex and technical process.  Well intentioned people have attempted to "document" sites with the result of damaging or destroying the archeological record.  If it is a true archeological site ANY investigation should be done by professionals.  Talk to the state archeologist in the state where it is located.  If it is on federal or Indian land, notify  the tribe, BLM, NPS or whichever agency oversees the property.  Also if it is on state, federal or Indian land there are laws that may make that sort of "documenting" a crime punishable by prison and fines.

Wayne & Jinx
2017 F-350 diesel, dually
2006 Carriage Carri-Lite 36KSQ

Heh. Well, I didn't envision someone digging around or even camping at the site. I meant I would take about a zillion photos and perhaps laser measurements, depending upon the site.

I would do all of this before revealing the site to anyone. Yes, I'm probably paranoid. But still...

Intriguing.

My first thought is to buy the property if it is possible. Ownership, perhaps, gives you more control after revealing the discovery. It certainly gives you an ability to limit access. I think I would document the site in excess before seeking out an appropriate non-profit or research group. Do you know or suspect the origins? If so, perhaps you could find someone who studies that people or era and arrange to validate (or not) your suppositions.

I wish you every success with this.

Does the ad state where these particular jobs are located?

By the by: we're recumbent trike riders.

Congrats on your garden! May it bring you much value.

I have grown things outside and in a greenhouse for decades. Suggest pulling those radish sprouts that have grown too close to another and putting them in a salad for a peppery flavor burst. We sold our farm in March, so I didn't sow seeds this year. Cannot say I'm upset about that (growing 75% of one's food is an energy intensive gig), but I do know I'll end up with basil and chives inside the motorhome at some point.

Any tri-pointers here? If so, how about we post images and tri-pointing route tips here?

We're newbs, having just nabbed our 7th tri-point. Our most recent tri-point was CO-WY-UT, which is the highest tri-point in the US. We were up there two days ago. We parked due to deep mud in the roadway 6 miles below the monument. The north faces still had snow drifts, (and it has snowed up there since) but this route will be passable by a high clearance vehicle soon.

I commend the OP for taking steps to improve the healthfulness and quality of her food! Applause! 👏 

If someone answered the question about a tried and true cornbread recipe, I missed it. So here goes: this is the one I've used for years. I sometimes grind my own blue cornmeal and use that 1/2 & 1/2 with commercial. I sometimes put homemade black beans and/or corn and peppers in the pan before the batter. The motto that has served me with regards to all baking is this: all baking is a science experiment, as it requires a chemical reaction. Learning how each ingredient affects that reaction, and adjusting ingredients to get your desired result takes practice. 

I bake this in a lidded cast iron skillet. Perfection, every time.

Suggest giving your early experiments to the birds. Maybe spread a bit of peanut butter on it and set it out for them: they'll love it.