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19 hours ago, Steven L said:

The requirement of an actual street address for firearm purchases as opposed to a PMB is 100% federal via the ATF and not anything having to do with South Dakota proper as I understand it. 

That being said, I personally know of several individuals who still were able to purchase using their PMB address, by finding a smaller Mom & Pop retailer with a FFL who was willing to accomodate them.  But if you go to any of the larger retailers such as Cabelas, Scheels, Sportsman's Warehouse, etc. then yes you will be denied as they are beginning to follow that law more strictly as of late.

The voter registration issue ended up being something of a tempest in a teapot, as the newly enacted guidelines only require that you've resided a minimum of 30 days in state prior to application for registration.  And they do not require those 30 days to be consecutive either.  You fill out the same addivadit of application as before, only with the 30 day period detailed that you are swearing to under penalty of perjury, rather than 1 day as it was formerly.

More than likely I'll be registering my vehicles online if I'm allowed to initially.  Our 5th wheel was itself formerly regostered in South Dakota, so for us hopefully it will only entail a change of ownership on the title, which we have outright, free and clear.

 

Yes you are correct. Yes mom and pop will make it a private sale. 

We were able to register to vote the day we got our license. 

Good discussion!

UPDATE!!!!

So update my friend who was going to get booted from a Wells Fargo bank is being allowed to stay. He provided a brick and mortar address of a relative and they will not close his account. He will now look for another bank so he does not have to impose on another person. NOT SURE if this is just SD BANKS but it is something to be aware of.

22 hours ago, Steven L said:

I'll be interested in hearing a more definitive answer from the O.P. as far as what their experiences are in successfully resolving this, as my wife and I were intending to establish residency and domicile in South Dakota sometime in the 1st quarter of 2024, and this is a concern for us.

As well as the rather murky issues surounding voter registration in SOuth Dakota post S.B. 139.  From what I've been able to glean online thusfar, there seem to remain questions about the level of strictness the South Dakota Secretary of State will intepret the wording of these new guidelines.

We just made SD our residency. 

I found out that with PMB on your license you cannot buy fire arms in SD! When we were residents of Fl and Tx through escapes this was not a problem. 

On banking we are with USAA so far no problem. We keep leaving Livingston TX as our mailing address. You register to vote when you get your driver's license. That law seems to not have votes to oust the full timers.

Oh for registering your vehicles and RV you have to have your title in hand! Or they will send for it from your bank which can take a couple of weeks.

13 hours ago, Kirk W said:

I don't think that you have to use a relative that is in the same state as your mail service, but I am not absolutely certain of that. You might want to ask the people at your mail service to help you. 

As a footnote, Escapees RV Club is much more than just a mail service.

Appreciate your input.

On 10/13/2023 at 7:35 AM, Kirk W said:

There were laws passed since 9/11 that set requirements for addresses with financial institutions las part of the Patriot Law package. The laws require a physical address for holding bank accounts and transferring money. If the bankers dig far enough into those laws, there is a provision for an alternate address arrangement with a second address of a permanent resident, near relative who will always know where you are. The problem is that many financial institution employees only see the main part of those rules and act, without any effort to dig into the fine print. Escapees RV Club has helped many of their members with that issue and most financial institutions they deal with rarely have that issue and they readily deal with the problem for their members when it does arise.  If your friend is a member of Escapees, have him contact the business office for assistance. If not, he may need to get the help of an attorney.

I guess if your resident of SD, a member of America's MAILBOX and have no relatives in SD your on your own.

Thanks

A fellow fulltimers tells me he has 60 days to come up with a brick and mortar address for his SOUTH Dakota bank or they will close his account. They will not accept his mail service address anymore. He uses AMB is this becoming a problem?